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You don't need a TV 'license' to do anything.
Edit, rules may since have changed
Thanks Tom. jam what are you on about??
Tom, I don't think it's live anyway as the runs are cut
No, you are watching an online broadcast, however you do need one if you have a tv
It's not the beeb so no.
You only need a tv licence to watch the bbc afaik
IANAL
Good job I'm not a lawyer, cause I was wrong 😀
Erasing the rules I'd say yes, as you're watching them as they are broadcast. But you're ok if you watch them on catch up later on.
Sorry Prawny, Mike but I think you're wrong. It doesn't matter if it's on the BBC you need a TV license to watch live TV. You cannot say I only watch C4 so I don't need a TV license.
Live means being broadcast at the time you are watching it. It doesn't mean watching live as the event happens in real time.
[url= http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/technology--devices-and-online-top8?WT.ac=home_plt_technology ]TV Licensing[/url]
What isn't clear is whether you need a TV license to watch a broadcast from another country. Is the Redbull site based in the UK?
Well the licensing site lays it out in perfect mud clarity 🙂 I'd argue that it's an internet stream rather than a television program.
This is from the licensing site:
You will not need a TV Licence to view video clips on the internet as long as what you are viewing is not being shown on TV at the same time as you are viewing it.
So I reckon you're ok without.
You don't need a TV 'license' to do anything.
if that's meant to be a correction for the OP, then pedant fail! It's a licence 😉 .
I would also say that you are fine as what you are wanting to watch is not being shown live on UK TV.
So if you haven't got a TV licence, are you meant to trawl the TV listings to check what you're watching isn't being shown on any of the many channels?
If it is on telly at the same time, how long do you have to pause it for until it counts as "not live"?
It's all a bit vague! 🙂
I think things like iplayer have a notice that says you need a TV license if you watch the live version. So you probably just look for that, if it says you do (and you don't) then you can watch the catch up version not the live version.
The "Do I need one" tab on the licensing site says
You need to be covered by a licence if you watch TV online at the same time as it's being broadcast on conventional TV in the UK or the Channel Islands.
Seems clear to me
Can anyone get it to work? On smart TV I can see only a test card and on the app it keeps cutting out!
i think it'll be best to play it safe and watch the replay lol
People actually watch xc on the internet? You are aware there is pornographic material available as an alternate?
Hell even that tv channel with the log burning is an alternative.
Unless the TV licensing man is looking through your window whilst you are doing it I think you should just about be OK 😉
P.S. And don't tell anyone you did it if anyone asks
After being a dodgy Uni student and not owning a tv for 5 years:
You need a licence if you have any equipment that will receive live broadcasts including laptops.
Just go on tv licence webpage and check.
[b]"You need to be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record TV as it's being broadcast. This includes the use of devices such as a computer, laptop, mobile phone or DVD/video recorder."[/b]
Source: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one
You need a licence if you have any equipment that will receive live broadcasts including laptops
Incorrect.
You only need a licence if you are [b]watching[/b] or recording tv as a programme is being broadcast. You don't need a tv licence just for owning the equipment.
I'm just quoting waft the tv licence people say.
I had my laptop, mobile and pc when they came round a decade ago but I wasn't fined but never watched tv anyway.
You need a licence if you have any equipment that will receive live broadcasts including laptops.
That's clearly not true at all.
I'm just quoting waft the tv licence people say.
No, you're not, you are mis-interpreting what you have actually quoted them as saying
Just go on tv licence webpage and check.
"You need to be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record TV as it's being broadcast. This includes the use of devices such as a computer, laptop, mobile phone or DVD/video recorder."
Only if you WATCH OR RECORD live TV (TV as it is broadcast). Owning a TV but not watching it (i.e. for gaming use) or a laptop (i.e. for internet use) does not require a TV license, as stated.
I have a TV that I only use to watch Netflix, and on-demand services. I therefore do not need a TV license.
The Redbull live TV part is an interesting question though, as I'd not considered foreign channels before.
Red bull isn't transmitted and available as a TV channel, so no, doesn't apply.
Surely you can pause it for 10 seconds, then it's not live 😉
I always thought the license was for ownership of the TV receiving device - not for the consumption of BBC content - regardless the BBC is a bunch of propaganda and I for one think we'd all be better off it dispanded .. I'm genuinely offended by much of the rubbish they put out - particularly the news ...
I think it's required
Definitions
TV equipment means television receiving equipment, such as a TV set, [u]computer[/u], mobile phone, games console, digital box or DVD/VHS recorder.
What is a TV Licence needed for?
To use any TV equipment to watch or record TV programmes as they are being shown on television.
[u]This includes[/u] watching or recording [u]streamed services[/u] and satellite TV broadcast [u]from outside the UK[/u]. If you only watch on-demand services, then you don't need a licence.
I think it's required
Nope. This from this link:
http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-legal-framework-AB16
The legal requirement for a TV Licence is not for the ownership of a television set or laptop, but for the installation and use of such equipment for television reception. Part 4 of the Communications Act 2003 provides for a system of TV licensing and makes it an offence to install or use a television receiver without a valid licence.
The distinction is that you can legally own any device which may be capable of receiving live TV, it is only when you own it 'for the purpose' of watching live tv that a licence is required.
But doesn't the OP want to use it to watch live TV?
If you use a PVR to pause it then watch ten seconds later that counts as recording.
Someone ring tv licence and ask?
I guess copy n' paste info from the tv licence website is wrong...
I have my tv licence as I have a 50 inch plasma.
Never watch BBC though and wish we had a subscription service/choice.
The crucial word which you appear to be ignoring is "watch". If you don't watch live tv as its being broadcast then you don't need a licence. Its incredibly simply and its exactly what you copied and pasted from the tv licence website.
As a British (or non British person, living abroad, if I watched something that was streamed live on the Internet, and was Broadcasted live at the same time in the UK.
Do I need a licence?
You'd be governed by the laws of the country you are living in.
Someone ring tv licence and ask?I guess copy n' paste info from the tv licence website is wrong...
I have, and the copy and paste from the website is not wrong, you are mis-interpreting it. The key word is WATCH TV as it is broadcast (on any device). On demand services do not do this and therefore do not require a TV license. Not sure how that is difficult to understand.
I have my tv licence as I have a 50 inch plasma.
No you have a TV license because you watch TV as it is broadcast. If you don't, then cancel your license.
Never watch BBC though and wish we had a subscription service/choice.
We do. You can choose to cancel your TV license and watch on demand services. I only watch catch-up/on demand TV and Netflix. Cost me £5.99 a month for Netflix. I already have broadband. Cheaper than a TV license and I now watch more programmes and movies than ever before. Get a Roku box or similar, plug it in to your 50" plasma, and your done.Unplug the TV ariel and watch away.
I have my tv licence as I have a 50 inch plasma
I have the same, but no licence.
I don't need one as I don't watch or record live TV.
I also have a big tv but as I haven't watched or recorded live TV for five years I don't have a licence. I still get increasingly threatening letters from the licencing people despite having told them years ago I didn't need a licence. I'm looking forward to the day that they actually keep their promise to call round and "inspect" my house!
As people have said above you DO NOT need a TV licence to watch BBC iPlayer etc if its not LIVE. You definitely do not need one just to watch RedBull TV live or otherwise.
@RockHopper, they eventually came round to see me after 6 years ! Like you at the time I wasn't watching any live TV in fact the TV had no ariel and as it was a Singapore model it couldn't get freeview.
My most recent letter from them (received yesterday) gives me advice on what to do when they take me to court (note that they don't say if!!). Its actually a very intimidating letter and I can see that it would scare someone into buying a licence when they might not need it.
I really resent the implication that I'm guilty of something I haven't done which is why I'm refusing to tell them I don't watch TV (there is no legal requirement for me to do so plus I did actually tell them three years ago).
So I'm quite looking forward to a visit at which time I'll refuse to answer any of their questions and tell them to come back with a warrant (they have no right of entry or any right to force me to respond to anything they say).
Good lad. Keep at it.
Rockhopper, I'm in the same position as you. Have a TV linked to Bluray and catch up services. Aerial is blanked off at the wall Live TV is a waste of time (except the tour which I watch at a mates)
Has been like this for 3 years
They actually came round but unfortunately I was out - I was really looking forward to letting them in, sitting them down at my kitchen table in front of the various letters they sent and then asking them politely why they thought it was appropriate to demand money from me with menaces