cromolyolly
Member
Not patronising you at all.
Not aimed at you, I was responding to Mr Angry.
I avoided all this by having a term time contract. I'm not contracted or paid to work for those 10 weeks of the year.
For the record, everyone here may understand HR’s role but the broader working world really doesn’t.
Well the first aim is to avoid paying out settlements!! Followed by dealing with employees. So stopping a manager being a dick is right in their remit.
I've seen plenty defend one employee against another, both you and your manager are employees - both or you and neither of you are the company.
Simply though you are also looking to restrict other peoples time off choices to allow yours, people may have partners who are teachers, have commitments that fall in holiday time or want to go on a larger holiday with extended family.
However if there is a restriction of booking then you need a way of all having an equal chance of booking something. That is the issue you need to resolve first.
Ro5ey
Member
If its 5 weeks…. Are there enough working days in the year to accommodate everyone ?
My old boss in the bank brought in a "one off at a time" rule and when I pointed out that would need a year with over 400 days in it, I was told off for "always trying to find fault".
Anyway- leaving aside anything else, everyone is getting messed with by this, not just parents. if you want to get anything changed, don't make it about that, because that'll instantly make it about parents vs nonparents and you'd just dividing your own team and doing your arsehole management's job for them. And trying to assert rights you don't have isn't a great idea either. It only makes sense to make this about necessity and reasonableness and bring the whole team with you.
The law and rights aside any company that doesn't plan around employees having family commitments is going to have problems retaining those employees.
You might also want to explore article 8 of the EU Human Rights legislation with a professional. Mostly it appears to cover state vs individual but work does get mentioned for some things. You would need a good lawyer though!