I was teaching a lad to shoot in the field...
He's a lifelong vegetarian and pet rabbit owner.
He asked if he could shoot a rabbit. I said sure. He was happy... then I added "but you have to eat it". He wasn't up for that.
What was the question again?
Not entirely toys19, for example the last line of your prior post....we do have biological explanations for pointless killing. However, after science has informed of us of that.... a moral decision is often taken on the basis of philosophy and the needs of society in general. Science can in certain circumstances further inform morality (eg self-awareness, the differences between animals and humans).
Pointless consensual sex (there is no such thing btw) does not remove another animals own biological interests (like killing them does) nor does it cause acute suffering. You can't compare the two at all.
Toys19's argument is rather disingenuous and reads like the ramblings of a 6th former.
I don't remember resorting to ad hominen, which is what your 6th former might do?
I am happy to be in this discussion, but please try and be civil? If you are the leviathan you think you are, you would not resort to just insulting people. If you think I am wrong, educate, explain and discuss there is little need for condescension, belittling or just plain rudeness.
What about killer sex? Is that ok, hoping for a bit at the weekend. Yes pest control is ok. I wouldn't kill little mammals if I could help it, just trap them. Would like to eat a squirrel though, they taste nutty apparently. If chimps and elephants were bred for hunting then that would make them fair game. Don't agree with it, but I don't expect to agree with everybody. Vice versa. Let's not get our knickers in a knot. Toys19 have you read the other title " Guns, Germs & Steel" sounds like a craker 😉
guns germs and steel is very good, as is Collapse.
I read Collapse. Well, I read half of it and got so massively bored I couldn't carry on.
Some societies didn't manage their natural resources well and collapsed. Ok, I get it, no need to ram the same point into my brain page after page...
skim reading is your friend..
I don't remember resorting to ad hominen
well you accuse molly and myself of being moody, handbags and knee jerk reactions and you followed that quote up with
If you are the leviathan you think you are
These are all, clearly, aimed at the person not the argument.
Evolution has us committing "pointless sex" to ensure we get procreation,
well if it has a point [ procreation] its not pointless which was my point that you were attempting to refute - that is a fairly impressive fail
Somebody may well come up with an explanation of pointless killing, will it suddenly become morally acceptable then?
it depends on what the point is as as a point and a moral are not equivalent.
well you accuse molly and myself of being moody, handbags and knee jerk reactions and you followed that quote up with
you did get arsey did you not? I was just pointing it out. I did not say you were pathetic or not worth arguing with like you did, I just asked you to stop having a go and stick to the argument.
If you are the leviathan you think you are
As insults go, it is not particulalry powerful is it? It was actually an attempt to get him to live up to the compliment, as so far he has given some decent thinking. Aside from his snide comment he garnered my interest.
Do you want to discuss this or just resort to discrediting me to try and prove your point or shall we just go for last wordism.
I have asked you to be civil, and to stick to the topic in hand. To be honest you have just made this whole thing boring, why pick on the person, surely we can have a discussion about the topic in hand.
you did get arsey did you not? I was just pointing it out.
No. You said some things about us rather than about our argument, which is the very definition of ad hom. You then tried, incredulously, to claim you dont do this and then did it again to someone else.
I did not say you were pathetic or not worth arguing with like you did,
I never said those things and it is a lie to claim i did
please quote me directly saying this - its a lie
I am not interested in you claiming this is an ad hom [ it may be but only if untrue] prove I said that - i will eat humble pie and apologise - best of luck
As insults go, it is not particulalry powerful is it
Your point was that you did not do ad homs not that the ad homs you did were poor
Do you want to discuss this
This would have had more credit if any part of your post had been about what we were discussing
This is either trolling or some sort of epic self awareness irony fail.
Junkyard, toys19.. step away...
ok molly
