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3!! In a career that started in 1995! wow, she’s out of control*
* you may need to turn up your sarcasm-o-meter to get the full effect
those are just 3 high profile events, and she admits her temper is better now than it was, which implies she had a lot more outbursts.
just accept it and stop bing such a hater...
and ugly inside...
How many contributors to this thread follow tennis regularly I wonder? I only ask as AFAIK there's not a 10 min youtube of Serena smashing rackets like there is for Djokovic for instance (who's well know for it, and in most crowds there's a least one spectator calling out for him to "Smash It, and it's not the ball they're talking about) . I'm not going to deny that her behaviour wasn't bad on that day, she certainly deserved the penalties she received, but the idea that Serena (of all the WTO) players that I watch, uses her position to "regularly" misbehave is laughable. She's one of the last I'd accuse of intimidating behaviour, and certainly in comparison to some of the men, most of the women players are remarkably sanguine and cool headed.
I will say that the coverage of the Williams sisters is remarkably and consistently different from that of other female tennis players currently on the circuit. Commentators (on the game) will still point out that their colour is still apparently worthy of mention, their physique, their upbringing, their father, their clothes, all are talked about in commentary to a level beyond that of pretty much every other player (male players included).
Does that excuse her behaviou? Absolutely not, but that they are singled out for comment of things other than their tennis skills pretty routinely still, must after all these years be a defining part of their mental preparation each time they go out to play. That this is still in the news days after the event, in a way that it simply would not for any other player (male or female) says a lot.
but that they are singled out for comment of things other than their tennis skills pretty routinely still, must after all these years be a defining part of their mental preparation each time they go out to play
I don't think anybody contests that - but the point was that the punishment she received in this match was entirely reasonable, and claiming that it was "sexism" is profoundly unfair to the umpire (who cannot respond).
Well Martin Luther Kings daughter and the National Association of Black Journalists for a start
Interesting, I'll look into that. Hopefully they aren't wanting to censure all satire against BME.
claiming that it was “sexism” is profoundly unfair to the umpire
Don't disagree with you DrJ, her behaviour was egregious and her language particularly vituperative. What I'm commenting on is the incorrect (IMO) impression that a lot of posters have that Serena has form for it, or that they (the Williams collectively) routinely try to intimidate their way to wins. I suspect had Krygios or Djokovic behaved the same way there may not have been 3 threads started on a MTB forum about their behaviour.
What I’m commenting on is the incorrect (IMO) impression that a lot of posters have that Serena has form for it
she has form for it...
As NBC sports commentator and former tennis pro Mary Carillo said :
“At her very best – and she is very often at her very best – I respect and admire Serena beyond measure. She is so powerful, she’s an important voice, she’s a ferocious competitor. But at her very worst, as she was on this night, she acts like a bully.”
And she's acted like that a few times now.
One commentator on one incident doesn't give her "form" 3 incidents that you could find over a 20year career doesn't give her "form" either. I can't remember a tournament when a player hasn't called out a line judge or an umpire decision and there are serial offenders much much worse than the Williams Sisters
Clearly you've made up your mind about this and nothing I say will persuade you otherwise, I think we'll have to agree to disagree
Smashing raquets, swearing etc are not even close to calling the umpire a cheat. Serena is the world no1 and her behaviour in this instance is terrible. She should be fined her whole prize money and banned from next years tournament.
If a rugby or football player called a ref a cheat to their face what would happen?
One commentator on one incident
she's got number 1 and number 3 on this list :
and this us open has yet to be added.
there's several commentators making the same statements about this incident, try using Google...
https://nypost.com/2018/09/08/serena-acted-like-a-sore-loser/
https://blog.tradesharktennis.com/serena-williams-is-a-great-player-but-is-also-a-bully/
https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/9eoyud/serena_is_the_bully_not_the_victim_naomi_osaka_is/
https://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/01/sports/tennis/01iht-SRSERENA.html
plus all the comments agreeing plus a load more behind paywalls...
loads of people have recognised her bullying tendencies.
To her credit she only played one “-ist” card
"I swear to God I'll ****ing take the ball and shove it down your ****ing throat."
S. Williams, 2009. To line judge.
Re the cartoon- I think it's a reasonably good joke but a very shit cartoon. Either racist or incompetent. I don't buy "caricature" either, it just doesn't look like her imo and when it ends up looking more like a racist cariature- massive lips etc- then hmmmm.
Only just seen it, shocking. I see similar images in the Spanish media and although cringeworthy you have to remember that Spain is 30 or 40 years behind on these things. Didn't realise Australia was too.
Isn't the herald sun broadly comparable to the mail? Although even the Mail would not have dared to run that cartoon.
Didn’t realise Australia was too.
Herald Sun is a news corp RW rag, the anti PC line on the front page is right up their street and on their agenda.
There are sections of Australia that are racist and ugly right wingers but it's also a massively diverse nation, don't lump everyone together there.
Of course not, and to be clear I wasn't insinuating all Spaniards are like that either but it is allowed to continue without being overly condemned.