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Since when does Wikipedia be allowed as the "de-facto" definition?
99% of it is so factually incorrect it could be used by Jim Davidson as a script ๐
It's banned by every college and university as a reference for study it's that bad.
"Pizza" is a starter or a 1st course, an anti-pasti- nothing more. Think a giant hot biscuit.
2-3 toppings is the limit and its rolled as thin as possible to cook in about 60-90s.
Since when does Wikipedia be allowed as the "de-facto" definition?
99% of it is so factually incorrect it could be used by Jim Davidson as a script
It's more factually correct than your post.
Go on then Cougar......
99% of it is so factually incorrec
I've probably told you 17 billion times, don't exaggerate.
I prefer my crust stuffed with mini cheeseburgers
That's so wrong that words cannot communicate effectively the wrongness.
Didn't deep crust evolve due to the lack of suitable pizza ovens available in Italian immigrants to the US?
"Pizza" is a starter or a 1st course, an anti-pasti- nothing more.
I take it you got that from Wikipedia?
And since we're posting photos, this is from di Matteo, one of Naples' finest pizzerias and pretty much defines what pizza should be
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seems pretty popular too
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Go on then Cougar......
Can you actually find me an example of something that's wrong on Wikipedia right now? Should be easy, right? Just pick 100 pages at random and only one of them will have correct information.
It's a tedious and lazy generalisation. Wikipedia isn't perfect, and there are inaccuracies of course. But it's certainly not 99%; I'll wager it's closer to the other 1%. I have found mistakes on Wikipedia in the past but I doubt I could trivially find something wrong on demand (and if I did I'd correct it).
That's the point Cougar - [b][i]YOU[/i][/b] can correct it which is why it's banned as a resource now.
As for the info - no I didn't get it from Wikipedia BBSB. I've been fortunate to have spent a large amount of time in Naples, Perugia and also worked with an Italian family from the region for over 8yrs who made a point of vehemently berating anyone who even attempted to call anything but a hand pulled, almost paper thin base with a handful of topping. Literally what you could pick up and sprinkle on one.
Deep pan (whilst tasty) and "pie" is to pizza what those thing Hora likes are to a real pie here.
That's my point. There is [i][b]Italian[/b][/i] Pizza and [i][b]American [/b][/i]pizza. They are not the same, not by any stretch of the imagination, but they are still pizza. One is thin and crispy, one is much thicker.
[b]ALL[/b] cheap, mass produced pizza is rubbish. Thin crust or thick crust, it should be fresh and hand made. Proper pizza pie is fantastic, don't knock it before you've tried it. Yes, it's thick and gooey and full of fat and salt, that 's the point. Live a little, and get over yourself in the process.
I've been fortunate to have spent a large amount of time in Naples,
..and yet you think pizza is a starter or antipast[b]o[/b]
That's the point Cougar - YOU can correct it which is why it's banned as a resource now.
True(*), but that's not what you said, and therefore not what I disagreeing with. There's a world of difference between "99% of it is so factually incorrect ... It's banned by every college and university as a reference for study it's that bad" and "it's banned because it's world-editable."
(* - or at least, I'm taking your word for it that it's true, I've no idea whether it's banned or not.)
I've no idea whether it's banned or not.
IME*, citing it is frowned upon but it's a good place to get a starter on a new topic.
*Mrs Dubs occasionally marks papers for the local uni.
Ex did 2 PHD's and both daughters are now on GCSE/A exams/coursework.
Can't be referenced, cited or any other form of use because it cannot be seen to be a "fixed source".
Open editing, etc means its information has been shown to be incorrect.
Ex used it as a discussion point to prove the information was wrong on her psychology masters dissertation and the argument of the source against published works in peer groups.
Any citing of it as a reference or source is an immediate strike through of that question and a zero mark.
As for the original style of pizza and it being a starter/anti that's exactly what it was told to me as. By Italians so I'd sooner take their word for it than the STW experts.
Any argument about the authenticity or otherwise of Italian food is pretty stupid - pizza uses tomatoes (where did they come from again?), pasta comes from China, etc. They only started adding cheese to pizza a bit over 100 years ago...
Everything is 'authentic', even pizza vs pie banter ๐
Now, for a deep-fried Cornish Breakfast Pastie...
a deep-fried Cornish Breakfast Pastie...
God, that's sounds fantastic. Hungry now ๐
Any argument about the authenticity or otherwise of [s]Italian [/s]food is pretty stupid - pizza uses tomatoes (where did they come from again?), pasta comes from China, etc. They only started adding cheese to pizza a bit over 100 years ago...
FTFY.
For the record, deep pan pizza is just dreadful.




