This week I’ve been ‘enjoying’ a week off work, just hanging out with the kids, doing normal day to day stuff.
Honestly, I don’t think I’ll ever want to retire, I don’t want to be like the ‘daytimers’ and I certainly don’t want to be around them.
It’s been like it all week, but today’s quick trip the the supermarket took the piss.
The people who infect society during the working day are just complete XXXX [Mod edit], it’s like they’re on day release or something, just lumps of useless flesh stood agasp in the way, in doorways, at the base of escalators, sort of half in, half out of queues, driving trollies into you like you’re invisible.
At one point I was worried I’d passed over the the other side in my sleep like that dude in the 6th sense when they stupid old bat kept smashing her trolly into me, and the way they just move in front of you when you’re looking for something is just outrageously rude.
So many times I just wanted to slap one, remind them that their time had passed and thanks the to ‘B’ word they voted for in their droves, when society falls next year and it becomes survival of the fittest, they’re truely ****ed.
That just sounds like any day to me. In fact weekends are normally worse as more people are about. This is why I don’t visit supermarkets
And they are probably all claiming benefits / immigrants / druggies.
I may have missed the full meaning of that then? It’s pretty interchangeable with ‘muppet’ and the like?
And they are probably all claiming benefits / immigrants / druggies.
Only if if you count state pension as a benefit.
I may have missed the full meaning of that then? It’s pretty interchangeable with ‘muppet’ and the like?
https://www.theguardian.com/society/joepublic/2011/oct/19/ricky-gervais-mong-twitter
I may have missed the full meaning of that then? It’s pretty interchangeable with ‘muppet’ and the like?
Derogatory term for those with learning difficulties, iirc
And they are probably all claiming benefits / immigrants / druggies.
How does one go about claiming an immigrant? Asking for a friend.
Derogatory term for those with learning difficulties, iirc
Ah, that’s unfortunate😳
Simple solution. Avoid places with escalators.
How does one go about claiming an immigrant? Asking for a friend.
This fella has a line on it
"A shortened form of Mongoloid or Mongol, a derogatory term for a person affected by mental disorder, especially Down syndrome (originally called Mongolian idiocy by researchers)"
About the same level as labelling someone a "spaz" or "spastic" i.e. something most of us grew out of around the time the main venue for social interaction stopped being a school playground.
Mind you, people are still happily using different variants of the -tard suffix which, if you ask people in and around the learning difficulty "community" is also considered rather offensive for the same reasons.
@P-jay - its a perfectly acceptable, much used word in the context you've used it (I was just using it last week about very similar circumstances!) - Trouble is the online PC gang think you're calling people "mongoloid" which is slang from about the 1970s for Down's Syndrome. Well, they don't think you're calling people that, they WANT to think that so they can get upset and offended about it. You know how it is.
Anyway, Saturdays are the same.
At this time of year the people you are ranting about are surely teachers on summer holidays!
Meanwhile, over on SpongingWasterTrackWorld someone considers starting a thread about some nobber in a hurry hassling them in a supermarket.
They don't though.......can't be bothered.
I may have missed the full meaning of that then? It’s pretty interchangeable with ‘muppet’ and the like?
I find that people that use the word "muppet" are people with no sense of humour, no sense of their own (sometimes glaring) inadequacies, and a smug reducto ad absurdum view of life. The sort of people who think they are above-average drivers, or that other people have "shit cars". They are also often boiling with repressed anger. Imho of course.
Sorry DezB, it pretty much isn't acceptable. Where do you think it came from?
Trouble is the online PC gang think you’re calling people “mongoloid” which is slang from about the 1970s for Down’s Syndrome. Well, they don’t think you’re calling people that, they WANT to think that so they can get upset and offended about it. You know how it is.
Really? It's everybody else that is the problem?
What were you describing when you used it? was it a derogatory term?
Perhaps it's just you are out of touch with how everyone else is these days?
Swoons at P-Jay. If only everyone could be fit with a working brain and really you should think yourself lucky that you don't encounter me shuffling around a supermarket unable to remember what I've gone in there for.
I prefer Cockwomble.
This phrase embraces a whole raft of gimps
Up until three days ago I would have wondered WTF the OP was talking about but I was in Morrison's and the queue for the shopping trolleys (where you have to put a £1 coin in to release the trolley) was absurd. People stood around in states of utter confusion like it was a recent invention.
Etymologies are generally well researched by professional lexicographers. If you "think" the word derives from somewhere different from where the evidence the professionals "think" (or rather, in their case, "have researched") it comes from, then perhaps you could present some of your evidence, as it would be genuinely interesting.
If, on the other hand, you've just unilaterally decided that it means something else, then you're a paedophile*
(Despite what most people may think, and understand, and what the dictionary may say, I've decided that, for me, the word "paedophile" means opinionated moron.)
Maybe the biggest reason for not using the M word is that it becomes what everyone talks about on a thread rather than the actual subject of the OP.
DezB - I'm going to have to disagree, it does have a very derogative and insulting meaning to some people and, for that reason, it's best avoided - like a lot of insults that were bandied about in 1970's playgrounds.
Asda during the day is really bad for this. It's like the bloody walking dead - folk shuffling around in some weird trance-like state. An utterly depressing and forgettable experience.
The people who infect society during the working day are just complete XXXX [Mod edit], it’s like they’re on day release or something, just lumps of useless flesh stood agasp in the way, in doorways, at the base of escalators, sort of half in, half out of queues, driving trollies into you like you’re invisible.
Good God, when did this sort of thing start? Has nobody thought to pen an angry letter to the editor?
In my experience of working shifts for donkeys years, it’s always when I realise it’s a Saturday when I get to the shops that I kick myself. There may be some proper dopey zombies wandering around in wrk days, but the sheer volume of human detritus that fills shopping areas at the weekend make it a far worse experience. Sometimes it feels like I’ve entered the set of Dawn of the Dead...
Well, this one always seems a bit ridiculous to me. If you've ever called anyone hysterical, for instance, then you are in no position to criticise. How about sinister? Very offensive to left handed people that you raging xenophobe.
Words are words. If you get offended by a word it doesn't mean the author has intent, and if the context is quite obviously not with intent, it says rather a lot more about the offendee than the user of the "terrible word".
Honestly, I don’t think I’ll ever want to retire
Don't worry your pretty little head about that. By the time most of us get to 'retirement' age, it won't be an issue. Retirement will be viewed as a quaint, indulgent little quirk that belonged to a lucky generation in the late 20th/early 21st century but now dispensed with
It’s like the bloody walking dead – folk shuffling around in some weird trance-like state.
and that's just the staff...
If you get offended by a word it doesn’t mean the author has intent
use the N word in a jokey way in your next work email. It's just a word...
Oh, and as for daytime zombies, if you want the full experience I suggest a stroll round Hyde of a lunchtime. Truly extraordinary levels of weird going on in those parts.
Completely agree with the OP, the local supermarket and town are full of mouth-breathers with IQs very much below the national average. We hate shopping so we get it delivered every week by Ocado, for which the charge is minimal and as trusted customers we get new products to test - recently I got a very nice bottle of single malt for free! The other benefit of shopping online is that you don't wander around picking up the 2 for 1 offers; you can be much more disciplined in buying only what you need.
If we are forced to shop we go to Booths, which is a privately-owned supermarket chain in NW England that has great products and many have a good cafe too.
My only complaint with that is that pensioners are allowed to shop on Saturdays, thus blocking up the roads and car parks. Why can't they shop during working hours when we are working to pay their pensions?
wwaswas - Clearly there are limits. Doesn't change the facts. Context innit.
By your logic, presumably all the rappers (and others) that do use the 'N' word are hideous racists and should be stopped?
I suggest a stroll round Hyde of a lunchtime
Jekyll is far more genteel.
Don't worry about retiring, it doesn't automatically make you like them.
By your logic, presumably all the rappers (and others) that do use the ‘N’ word are hideous racists and should be stopped?
Any thoughts on this Binners?
There's no way I'm getting involved in that Tom 😀
Anyway.... while we're on contentious issues, I'd say the problem isn't pensioners wandering around supermarkets, it's letting the buggers drive! You get a few of them in a car park at the same time and it starts to resemble the dodgems
Point is - those of astute consumer selectivity wouldn't frequent these places anyway. Surely you're part of the crowd you insult?
Delivery, Farmshop, Butcher, Small Grocer etc.
Clearly there are limits. Doesn’t change the facts. Context innit.
In the context of the OP it was the start of this sentence;
like they’re on day release or something, just lumps of useless flesh
and in that context it was exactly the wrong word to use precisely because of it's historic connotations.
By your logic, presumably all the rappers (and others) that do use the ‘N’ word are hideous racists and should be stopped?
like Queer - I think a group of people taking ownership of a word and turning it into something positive isn't necessarily a bad thing. The way a lot of rappers use the N word isn't about trying to use it in a positive way it's just become lazy - so they're not racists, just falling into a stereotype.
If we are forced to shop we go to Booths, which...
is full of entitled privileged arseholes who barge you out of the way as they are much more busy and important...
Had one behind me in the chip shop last night, she might have thought keep pushing me forward we would get served sooner as she looked like she hadn't eaten in a while, probably the best part of ten minutes.
She could however have been uncontrollably attracted to my toned super fit body.
Joking aside there are a lot of folk nowadays drugged up to the eyeballs on prescription drugs, plus the bottle of wine a night club and don't forget the phone zombies.
Well, this one always seems a bit ridiculous to me. If you’ve ever called anyone hysterical, for instance, then you are in no position to criticise. How about sinister? Very offensive to left handed people that you raging xenophobe
I'd personally think twice about describing a woman as hysterical, though do use the word - 'all the hysteria in the media' or whatever.
But I'm not sure how saying 'sinister' would indicate someone's frightened of strangers?
Joking aside there are a lot of folk nowadays drugged up to the eyeballs on prescription drugs, plus the bottle of wine a night club and don’t forget the phone zombies.
and joking aside those who are unbalanced by the chips on their shoulders too!
like Queer – I think a group of people taking ownership of a word and turning it into something positive isn’t necessarily a bad thing. The way a lot of rappers use the N word isn’t about trying to use it in a positive way it’s just become lazy – so they’re not racists, just falling into a stereotype.
Still using the word though aren't they, which is what your problem was with 'other' words. So, it seems its OK to use such words in some contexts but not others, is that right? So, does someone have the right to be offended if such words are used in a 'positive way' if they don't deem it to be acceptable or would such a person be a bit of a fool (etymology - pejorative A person with poor judgement or little intelligence.)?
Still using the word though aren’t they, which is what your problem was with ‘other’ words.
In the OP it was almost a text book example of someone describing a group of people with Downs Syndrome in a way that would be most insulting to them.
So yes, I do have a problem with that.
Not in an 'I'm a snowflake' way but because it appeared calculated to insult.
Oh yeah. Forgot that. Well, yes, context isn't it.. but mostly [i]who you're talking to[/i]. I'd use terms completely unacceptable on STW in coversations with my brothers, mates, girlfriend. But I wouldn't type them on here, christ no. So yes, whoever said it, it's obviously me who is the problem. 😆
I liked the rant, I give it 7/10 because CAPz are missing, but you’ve included a stereotype remark so that bumped it back up a bit.
Please, more practice and if you can imitate the anger with which you hit the keyboard whilst typing then that’d be great.
🙏👅💄
In the OP it was almost a text book example of someone describing a group of people with Downs Syndrome in a way that would be most insulting to them.
I don't think he was referring to people with actual downs syndrome though was he. He was just talking about general morons (A person of borderline intelligence in the former classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50-69), cretins (A person who fails to develop mentally and physically due to a congenital hypothyroidism.) and other wastrels was he not?
Joking aside there are a lot of folk nowadays drugged up to the eyeballs on prescription drugs, plus the bottle of wine a night club and don’t forget the phone zombies.
Surely it doesn't count if the wine's from Booths?
was he not?
How can we tell if he uses language that implies that he was?
Hence people saying: "maybe that word in that sentence wasn't a good thing for reasons"
It's not that complicated to understand is it? Don't use words that are derogatory to certain groups of people in a context that might imply you're being derogatory about that group of people. In the case of the M word it's best avoided in social media (and in any circumstance where you're working with people with special needs, tbh, if you think the forum's a nightmare for picking you up on using that word try using it in a special needs school - complete sense of humour failure barely covers it).
Anyway, can we discuss old people who can visit any time queuing in the post office at times when people with jobs want to now?
It’s not that complicated to understand is it?
No
Don’t use words that are derogatory to certain groups of people in a context that might imply you’re being derogatory about that group of people.
Oh, it is now.
😆
sorry to labour the point - I can't work out if some people are just being contrary or really don;t understand the issue 🙂
If you only read one thread that gets completely derailed by a word that was censored out anyway... 😉
By your logic, presumably all the rappers (and others) that do use the ‘N’ word are hideous racists and should be stopped?
Kendrick Lamar invited a white fan on stage to rap one of his songs.
He then had a go at her for using the N-word.
I'm quite happy to accept that other people* can use it without it being offensive but it seemed and utterly dickish thing to do to set her up for humiliation.
*am I being overly PC, or is it an example of the same thing in reverse, I'm happy describing her as white, but saying he's "black" in a context where I'm criticising him for something where that's relevant would make me feel uneasy.
I don't think you'll find many people who think its all good and proper to talk about the "mongs" in a special needs school. To be honest you are getting a touch hysterical (a neurotic condition peculiar to women and thought to be caused by a dysfunction of the uterus.).
If someone refers to someone/thing as being "complete 'something or others'" that would imply that they weren't actually 'something or others' and that it is basically a turn of phrase.
Perhaps it is a crap turn of phrase but it doesn't warrant the level of wanton indignation expressed above.
Context my dear friend.
I'm offended by the use of the Z word.
It's derogatory to the ambulant deceased community.
It's not their fault that the are vitality challenged and they shouldn't be used as a slur.
An unnatural craving for human flesh doesn't mean that you can't be a valued member of society you know.
Perhaps it is a crap turn of phrase but it doesn’t warrant the level of wanton indignation expressed above.
Perhaps the issue is the level that people want to defend using it for what I can gather is no real good reason. Plenty of words have passed out of circulation and are now considered to be not used. I thought (along with many others) this was one of them.
This thread has quickly been dragged off topic by the pc brigade I see! 🙂
This thread has quickly been dragged off topic by the offensive brigade I see! 🙂
*am I being overly PC, or is it an example of the same thing in reverse, I’m happy describing her as white, but saying he’s “black” in a context where I’m criticising him for something where that’s relevant would make me feel uneasy.
It's good to think about this stuff. No one's perfect and sometimes there are no right answers, just try to be a bit sensitive (which s probably what everyone posting on this thread actually does in real life, however much they may go 'mongy mong mong' to get a rise on here. Editing to add, that actually no on a quick read, the latter was genuine ignorance.)
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=monged
That's the only context I've ever heard 'mong' been used in. If someone is a 'bit of a mong' it just means they're a bit spaced out/probably high AF.
How come the guy who said he only gets his stuff delivered by Ocado or occasionally pops into Booths is getting a (almost) free pass? Time was that post would have been lept on by rabid dogs. You lot are slipping.
...assumed to be ironic as no one's that much of a twit that rhymes with bat?
globalti
...Why can’t they shop during working hours when we are working to pay their pensions?...
Seems fair.
They worked to provide the health services for your birth and the educational facilities and subsidies for the first 16 or so years of your life.
Many of them even lost family fighting for the freedoms we enjoy.
They worked to provide the health services for your birth and the educational facilities and subsidies for the first 16 or so years of your life.
Some of it, we are now paying for their ongoing early retirement and extended life expectancy
Im fully in agreement with the OP, plus they'll have brand new foreign cars and a fully paid off mortgage on a big house and definitely voted for brexit.
This has taken an unexpected turn.
Edit: removed, can't be bothered.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=monged
It's not a word I can remember using for 10+ or even 15+ years, but when I used it, that was very similar to how I used it... To describe a state of feeling lethargic, incapable of doing anything, due to a state of woolliness or jetlagged feeling from a very unstable sleep pattern at the time.
I certainly wasn't using it, specifically thinking of people with physical and/or mental disabilities.
How did you use the term ‘chinky’ 10 or 15 years ago? 😉😈
There's a Booth's in the village / small town my parents live in.
It doesn't seem to have anything much except booze in it.
Is it just for posh drinkers, or could you actually do a weekly shop there?
How come the guy who said he only gets his stuff delivered by Ocado
I only get my stuff delivered by Ocado but do also go into M&S and a new semi out of town food hall has just opened up within 10 miles so very handy. Nice and empty and I wont be throwing a strop like the OP has.
"today’s quick trip the the supermarket took the piss..........
and the way they just move in front of you when you’re looking for something..."
shopper lacking in skills blames others for time poorly spent MTFU on it - and not a rant just a handful of prejudices
and not a rant just a handful of prejudices
Against what, exactly?
I’m quite happy to accept that other people* can use it without it being offensive but it seemed and utterly dickish thing to do to set her up for humiliation
I'm glad you bought the one up. It annoyed me for days.
Seems to me she joined in with the theatre of it and got in trouble for all the wrong reasons.
P-Jay, are your parents still alive and are they 'daytimers' - yet?
Gosh P Jay. You really are.
I find that people that use the word “muppet” are people with no sense of humour, no sense of their own (sometimes glaring) inadequacies, and a smug reducto ad absurdumview of life. The sort of people who think they are above-average drivers, or that other people have “shit cars”. They are also often boiling with repressed anger. Imho of course.
Muppet.
How did you use the term ‘chinky’ 10 or 15 years ago?
Well, around 1979-81, it was used frequently by my then g/f and her family when referring to meals, and as her mum was ethnic Chinese from Singapore, making my g/f half Chinese, I tended to use the term in the same context. The discomfiture of a mate who asked if we’d stopped off for a chinky when we arrived late for a wedding reception was quite something as he was seldom lost for words. We thought it was just really funny.
But as they say, the past is a foreign country, they do things different there...