[Closed] David Kelly - post mortum and evidence files secretly sealed for 70 years

If this doesn't settle the argument that he was, in part at least, killed by the Government I don't know what will.

I wonder how he did die?

A government cover up - surely not?? Maybe Tony will tell us when he appears at the enquiry later this week.

Blair = war criminal.

It has to be said that this is the best way to point the finger at an extra judicial killing, be it by American or the UK's secret service. This was not some rubbish suicide. I doubt if Tony or his one eyed mate Gordon will ever come clean on this. It's a national disgrace.

Something very very fishy about this, if it proves one thing it is that our secret agent chaps are not as good as the people on Spooks.

I do wonder if Alistair Cook really did have a heart attack.

Has anyone found this in any other news source than the mail?

I looked for other sources but it only seems to be on dodgy conspiracy websites other than the Press Association.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5goGhY_XNsqqrr2YR5j3pP24avumw

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23798597-70-year-gag-on-kelly-death-evidence.do

The Standard & The Daily Mail then....so any proper papers? 😉

[url] http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/8913727 [/url]
[url] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/7066383/David-Kelly-death-evidence-to-be-kept-secret-for-70-years.html [/url]

if it proves one thing it is that our secret agent chaps are not as good as the people on Spooks.

And nor the met as good as The Bill 😉

From the Guardian:

"Supposedly all evidence relevant to the cause of death has been heard in public at the time of Lord Hutton's inquiry. If these secret reports support the suicide finding, what could they contain that could be so sensitive?"

Exactly, I don't believe some of these conspiracy theories but something dodgy is clearly being hidden.

Anyone one remember the Independent's 'Whitewash' front page the day Hutton published his report?

Thom Yorke "Harrowdown Hill"
[i]
Don't walk the plank like I did
You will be dispensed with
When you've become inconvenient
Upon Harrowdown Hill
Where you used to go to school
That's where I am
That's where I'm lying down

Did I fall or was I pushed?
And where's the blood?

I'm coming home
To make it all right
So dry your eyes

We think the same things at the same time
We just cant do anything about it

So don't ask me
Ask the Ministry

We think the same things at the same time
There are so many of us
So you can't count

Can you see me when I'm running?
Away from them

I can't take their pressure
No one cares if you live or die
They just want me gone
They want me gone

I'm coming home
To make it all right
So dry your eyes

We think the same things at the same time
We just cant do anything about it

We think the same things at the same time
There are too many of us
So you can't count

It was a slippery slippery slippery slope
I feel me slipping in and out of consciousness[/i]

Can the conspiracy theorists please note that if the government are happy and have the power to have people killed do you not think they also have the power to make sure the enquiry ends with the findings to suit the ‘masterplan’.

Do you not think that by keeping the finding secret maybe isn’t in the government’s best interest and if it was a ‘cover up’ then they would release information that it was clearly suicide?

Perhaps the report contains evidence that is best not released in the public domain.

[i]I doubt if Tony or his one eyed mate Gordon will ever come clean on this.[/i]

That’s a pathetic comment, why do you have to stoop so low as to comment on someone’s disability.

for my understanding here.

If DC and his cronies come into power in May, can they reverse such decisions or are they bound by decisions made at the time?

Does seem very odd.

Its not a secret that the files have been sealed for 70 yrs. this has been in the press a lot.

they kidnapped elvis too.

[i]Can the conspiracy theorists please note that if the government are happy and have the power to have people killed do you not think they also have the power to make sure the enquiry ends with the findings to suit the ‘masterplan’.[/i]

Having someone killed is reasonably easy. Cocking up the cover up is also reasonably easy. Even the current Government can manage "reasonably easy".

[i]Cocking up the cover up is also reasonably easy.[/i]

As would getting the 'cover up' right.

hora - Member
I do wonder if Alistair Cook really did have a heart attack.

Alistair Cook the cricketer is still alive.

Alistair Cooke the broadcaster died of lung cancer.

Robin Cook the politician apparently had a heart attack.

No, I'd go with the "oops, we've cocked it up" approach, it fits the Government's [i]modus operandi[/i] better.

I just feel sorry for his family. I know one of his daughters quite well and this is just lengthening the nightmare for them 🙁

I was pondering the other night how things might have turned out if Andrew Gilligan wasn't such an awful man. If it had been someone a bit more credible/likeable/competent, things could have been so very different.

is anybody really surprised? 😥

I lose the conspiratorial thread on this. Was Dr Kelly killed by the same transsexual zionist space-lizards who blew up the world trade centre using holographically-cloaked cruise missiles and red mercury, or was it a different faction?

Do'h Robin Cook even 😐

Could somebody please give a reason why this decision would have been made other than for a cover up? Apologies for my lack of imagination.

and people give me grief when I say the UK is a fascist state. It's just that the population haven't realised it yet

[i]Could somebody please give a reason why this decision would have been made other than for a cover up?[/i]

well 70 years is a long time longer than any of those involved will be dead unless mossad/MI5/the lizard people are using toddler assasins these days (tho conceivably a 30 year old assasin could be alive in 70years)

that leaves 2 options either he was killed with some super secret hi-tech weapon or maybe he was implanted with a hi tech phase dimensional tracking device linked to a map of the world in tony blairs bedroom so he can locate all civil servants at any time

or possibly to protect his children from some embarassing aspect of his death ?

but the official secrets act is used to cover up loads of bollox like ufo sightings etc isnt it?

and people give me grief when I say the UK is a fascist state

did any of you know that the weapons of mass destruction on the road in iraq where taken over the border into iran and turkmanistan 3 days before we offically went in and a no assult order was placed on them through fear they would be used and every person involved, where told not to talk about it.

this is more than just a theory

Hmmm..

No signs of depression.
Tells the British Ambassador that "I will probably be found dead in the woods." if the invasion of Iraq went ahead.
Warns a journalist of "[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3080795.stm ]"many dark actors playing games"[/url] just before his death.
[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4089729.stm ]Paramedics report a coin sized amount of blood[/url] "inconsistent with the cut on his wrist being the cause of death"
[url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2004/jan/27/guardianletters4 ]Other doctors object that his wounds would not have killed him[/url]
[url= http://web.archive.org/web/20080118051723/http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,,-6997401,00.html ]His fingerprints were not on the knife that reportedly killed him[/url]

this is more than just a theory

It's more than just theory... it's bollocks.

I also talked to a guy who reckoned his (American Reservist) force had seen WMDs with their own eyes but weren't allowed to tell anyone for some unspecified sinister reason 🙄

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Definitely photoshopped Captain...

... a real priest would know it's not his ear that he places at the glory hole.

The inquiry into the Dunblane killings' documentation was 'sealed' for 100 years - why would that be - and here they also tried to keep quiet that they'd done it.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dunblane-Unburied-Sandra-Uttley/dp/1905553056

And the book is a recommended read.

possibly to protect his children from some embarassing aspect of his death ?

I haven't heard that one before.

Shame John Major didn't think of that, when at the height of his "Back to Basics" moral Crusade, he had to deal with the appalling embarrassment of Stephen Milligan's death.

Now I know Stephen Milligan didn't have children, but I also know that his family were extremely annoyed with how he was described as a "sad man" by John Major.

[url= http://www.newsmedianews.com/milligan.shtml ]“Autoasphyxiation Tory? That'd be Stephen Milligan, who died in what would appear to be the most embarrassing way ever (wearing stockings and suspenders with a bin bag over his head, an electric flex round his neck and an orange in his mouth). Strange, even for a Tory MP...” [/url]

[url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/Strange-Death-David-Kelly/dp/1842752170/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264444557&sr=8-1 ]The Strange Death Of David Kelly[/url]

Very interesting and equally depressing.

darrell - Member

and people give me grief when I say the UK is a fascist state. It's just that the population haven't realised it yet

Ignorant and offensive to all those Brits who died fighting fascists.. Its nothing like a fascist state Its not even a socialist state either. It a parliamentary democracy with a social democratic party in change.

They do have a rather nasty authoritarian steak but its hardly the same thing. Go away and learn some history.

[i]rather nasty authoritarian steak [/i]

would that be a 'blue' one?

TJ wouldn't a real democracy require a voting system that resulted in Parliament actually reflecting the views of its people?

wouldn't a real democracy require a voting system that resulted in Parliament actually reflecting the views of its people?

So it's the "system" rather than the party which you don't like ?

And well yes, it's true, New Labour have done very little to change the British Parliamentary system since they came to power.

But to be fair, the Tories have been in power for the most amount of the time by far, since Labour first gave everyone the right to vote.

So I guess most of the criticism should be directed at the Tories. Specially as I understand, they have no plans to change the British Parliamentary system when they come to power in May.

but the official secrets act is used to cover up loads of bollox like ufo sightings etc isnt it?

Indeed. The Official Secrets Act is used far more to keep things from the British public than it is to protect 'secrets' that might be of use to our supposed 'enemies'

b r - thanks for the link on Dunblane - had forgotten about that and it kicked off at the time, before it was swept under the carpet.