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I remember being taught about reading a clock face (must have been infants school or something) and the teacher was facing the class with a clock face facing the class and then was moving the big and little hands around and getting us to shout out the time.
Only thing was that the teacher had the times mirrored as they were working the hands from behind the clock. Anyway long story short the teacher spent an hour, or so brainwashing us. To the point that when the clock read quarter past we would shout quarter to, and vice versa, etc.
To confirm I can actually read the time now.
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this is now my newest word. 😀
fanx Drax x
Just a take a beer and a post-it note with this link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/z8spn39 to the next parents evening.
HAH!
on the plus side its a life lesson on the world not being fair. Cant put a price on that level of education
^ Slackboy - I like (without having to click the link I know what you are referring to 😉 )
But the fundamental issue is that he wasn’t right
I thought the issue was that he upset your daughter?
It’s a useful life skill to learn that (a) adults aren’t always right and (b) it is sometimes just easier to let things go than trying to convince someone else that they are wrong. Much of my life has been taken up by the latter….it sucks being right when everyone else is wrong. Though it’s still preferable to being wrong 🙂
I’m with thecaptain on this. When I was at school we were told incorrect things, several times each day. You could consider home schooling.
I thought the issue was that he upset your daughter?
No, not really. I am bothered she was upset (naturally as a parent) but the thing I am not happy about was him telling her she was wrong when she wasn't.
At least he didn’t point out that he asked for an interesting fact ; )
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the thing I am not happy about was him telling her she was wrong when she wasn’t.
Life must be tough for you, I suspect its only going to get tougher too.
So – what would you / should I do????
Nothing really other than to explain that people in authority are frequently wrong. This is as good a time as any for your daughter to learn that.
Being pedantic..I'd argue that there were no goodies or baddies during world war one, everyone was as bad as each other..
Austria and Germany often get the blame but the ruskies mobilised first as I recall and they were on our side. Possibly not one for debate between 9 year-olds however, given many historians can't agree on it.
If i had to pick, being a modern history graduate I'd say germany/ austria/Hungary were most to blame, but then again it was the crazy Serbs that kicked it all off ..
Bombers ftw
Not sure if the Japanese had any back then...
but the thing I am not happy about was him telling her she was wrong when she wasn’t.
Can I just put my hand up and say that until I opened this thread I'd have to confess I had no idea the Japanese were involved in WW1. I can perfectly imagine that in the shit storm of bollox incorrect 'facts' you'd get back at you if you asked such a question to a load of 9 year olds that until this moment I'd probably be saying that this was not true as well. He didn't do it to spite anyone, just got it wrong. It's no biggie. Primary teachers are jack of all trades. Have you never told your wife that she is wrong about something in perfect conviction that you know what you are on about only to discover she was correct all along? If you are over 40 there is a fair chance that a good portion of the science you were taught at school was actually not true even though the teacher at the time thought it was.
I actually had a similar incident as a kid. I had to do a presentation on the tropical rainforests in Geography. I'd found a fact that the annual rainfall in the Lake District is actually higher than that in whatever rainforest I was banging on about. The geography teacher was having none of it and said I'd got that wrong. Huge satisfaction (and I mean huge) in taking in the book I'd got it from and showing it to him. He did the right thing, apologised and then told the class I had been right all along. The fact that I remembered that moment nearly 40 years later, and remember it as a positive means that if handled right this could turn into a real positive experience for your daughter. The day she got one over the teacher. So much more fulfilling than if he had glossed over it when she said it the first time.
Wow, some of the replies on here....... explain to her that even the President of the World's largest Democracy may occasionally get stuff wrong. Adults aren't always right - especially the slightly intimidating ones. Not having to have the last word and prove that you're correct is A GOOD THING.
"Not sure if the Japanese had any back then…"
They did - digital ones - but wasted them all by deliberately crashing them into Fokker tri-planes, while shouting "Banzai"
Any primary teacher could have told you that.
If the teacher was wrong then they need to be put right, although discretely , not in front of a class full of children. They are quite happy to embarrass your child in front of others , but as my wife often tells me, two wrongs don't make a right.
Sounds like one of the condescending muppets at my sons school.
Explain to your child that she knows more than the teachers do.
It's what my parents did in a similar situation and I *didn't turn into the cockiest git devoid of any respect for their peers so what have you got to lose?
*I did.
Take a picture of teacher, print off flyers with picture and text underneath saying he is a paedophile and stick them to lamp posts near the school.
Explain to the teacher when you visit him in hospital that, sure, your flyer want factually correct but neither was he in one of his lessons?
Best to go all in from the start.
I think the best solution ,which has already been suggested, quietly hand him a piece of paper with the facts on. That and not blinking.
Screw that. Humiliate teacher. Tell them "you're my bitch now" and never let up. Lesson no.2 after adults aren't always right; you're either the bully or the bullied.
I’d argue that there were no goodies or baddies during world war one, everyone was as bad as each other..
Yeah but they started it so they are the baddies
No no, no (sorry, sound like the DUP).... the losers are almost always looked back on as the baddies. Doesn't matter who started it.
Unless it's in the playground where that last point is fundamental to School Playground Law.
He did the right thing, apologised and then told the class I had been right all along
I had a similar experience. Then he proceeded to make my life hell until I was forced to leave the school.
(I made that up, but it could have happened)
If you ask for interesting facts, they're usually interesting because it's little known, or against the common view of events. Otherwise it's just a fact.
Or a falsehood. Or an interesting falsehood.
the losers are almost always looked back on as the baddies. Doesn’t matter who started it.
Agree, but it's not 100pc accurate to say Germany was the loser in WW1. They beat Russia and got a very generous settlement in the eye-watering Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk far harsher than the Treaty of Versaillles.
We often forget that. (Well, I do.)
The teacher should commit sepukku for he has brought great shame upon primary education and needs to restore the honour of the education system.
Life must be tough for you
I think life must be more of a challenge to you as I rarely see anything other than snidey comments on others' posts from you. Never anything particularly helpful, just what you see as chances to bag a laugh at someone else's expense.
to be fair folk taking the piss out of your "problems" is one of life's natural alerts to tell you when you need to get a grip.
I'm normally in the shrug your shoulders, life lesson learned, get on with things camp. But the OP's daughter came up with a cracking fact, one that had missed me by as well. It's a shame her teacher couldn't give her credit for it. But for most the Japanese involvement in WW1 would be a bit of a mystery.
I wouldn't make a big fuss, but if you had an email address a friendly message and a joke pointing out the error would be fine.
A good teacher on reflection might already have done a bit of research on their own by now.
@taxi - and do you know that every time we have discussed this aspect of the war I've told her just that - that one day she'd get an opportunity to tell people about it but instead her teacher shot her down on it. But as has been said, at least she knows she is right and he is wrong. I just doubt she'll be quite so quick to share again in class.
I just doubt she’ll be quite so quick to share again in class.
I know it's a real pity. A friends son had a similar thing, sadly the lesson he learnt was "never stick your hand up" 🙁
I just doubt she’ll be quite so quick to share again in class.
This is the issue you need to raise with the teacher. Everything else is noise. Don't even mention WW1 trivia, just ask him to punt a few easy questions her way in future to help bring her out of her shell. (Or similar strategy you both agree too.)
This is the issue you need to raise with the teacher
I said similar but he said he was more bothered about the teacher being wrong. Like I said life must be tough for him if things like this need raising on the interwebs.
I thought the issue was that he upset your daughter?
No, not really. I am bothered she was upset (naturally as a parent) but the thing I am not happy about was him telling her she was wrong when she wasn’t.
Imagine what driving must be like, can we expect a load of threads on what to do when he see's someone fail to stop at an orange light, or exceed the posted speed limit?
At some point someone's going to have the explain that school and exams in particular aren't about being right, they're about delivering the expected answer whilst knowing the correct one and keeping quiet about it.
Not grasping that got me into a load of trouble at primary school.
If you want to do different... well you need to progress into postgraduate education (and even then it's more trouble that it's worth).
The QI research team claim to be bad at pub quizzes because they tend to give the correct answers.
In my first year at secondary school, in my first history class in pretty much the first week, this happened to me. Teacher asked what ancient civilisations we know, I put my hand up and said the Mayans (we'd done a whole thing on them at primary), he didn't know what they were and laughed at me. Still remember it today and pretty much shot my confidence for the rest of school life. Don't let this happen to your daughter, I'd fire an email to teach or have a chat with him.
Yeah but they started it so they are the baddies
Did they though? Remind me what the initial spark for war was and who was responsible for it? Been 23 years since I studied the first world war at uni so im not going to pretend im an expert, however this bbc artical is a good read, with contributions from folks who know what they are talking about.
As you can see it's a mixed verdict..
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26048324
I wouldn’t make a big fuss, but if you had an email address a friendly message and a joke pointing out the error would be fine.
Or not. Far from fine imho.
Or not. Far from fine imho.
why ?
We had a similar discussion about weight, mass and g and the moon.
Very amusing for me and my very mathematically astute 8 year old.
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Or not. Far from fine imho.
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why ?
Well because the guy made, apparently, a simple mistake (I’ve not checked who’s correct, as I must be the only person who has absolutely no interest in either World War). I doubt very much he intended to crush any pupil’s self esteem and should be afforded some slack, nobody gets everything right all the time. I expect he is a busy person, working hard to do his best. So the last thing he is likely to appreciate is somebody sending a ‘joke’ pointing out his error, in amongst the hundred emails he gets that day.
So the last thing he is likely to appreciate is somebody sending a ‘joke’ pointing out his error, in amongst the hundred emails he gets that day.
You’re the teacher and I claim my 5,000 Yen.