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Basically I need a new job and don’t have time to re train. So something unskilled is preferred and happy doing something with a high risk that might put others off.
Essex minge barber. Fits the brief perfectly.
Russian fast jet pilot?
A Lada a year as salary. If that.
Haha indeed 😆
But here’s the list.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/18501691/most-dangerous-jobs-uk-pay/
This list from the Sun is pants - just a PR story by a CV company, just manufactured “research” like the recent “equation” for how long before children get bored in car journeys.
The real answer for the UK is published by the HSE:
By far the highest fatality rate is in the Agricultural/Forestery/Fishery industry, who are about 20x more likely to die at work than the average person.
A few years ago I saw a more detailed list of occupations and risk, but I don’t have the link. This showed deep sea fishermen as the pretty much the worst - if you did that job you would probably end up personally knowing at least one person killed at work.
I know a guy that was a diesel fitter for a mining company in Papua New Guinea. He got $250,000 AUD per year flying in and out every few weeks, but reckoned it was a nightmare. Armed guard required on all call outs. All colleagues were divorced alcoholics. He ended up with Ross River Fever IIRC and quit to go back to being a local car mechanic.
Soft play centre manager?
This is the correct answer - they are literal petri-dishes for every disease known to man. Forget wet-markets/pangolins - this is where the next 10 pandemics are coming from.
Serious answer...... I thought working on an oil-rig/oil tanker paid relatively well? Not anymore maybe. I think perhaps this kind of low skill/high risk/high reward only exists abroad now. So maybe mercenary?
Farming....
Money is apparently very good.
Lol! Not really as a job and not really as a rate of return on a business investment.
Basically I need a new job and don’t have time to re train.
Following in from my unpleasantness job Vs dangerous. Cleaning, but not normal office / house cleaning, post crime scene, post fire post body left undiscovered for three weeks.
This list from the Sun is pants – just a PR story........By far the highest fatality rate is in the Agricultural/Forestery/Fishery industry, who are about 20x more likely to die at work than the average person.
That is fatalities though. I don't dispute your numbers, but the Sun list is the 'most dangerous' and includes the potential risk from injuries and also mental health which is an angle I hadn't considered before reading it. eg: 60% of firefighters have mental health issues.That is a lot of people being damaged by their work even if the signs aren't immediately obvious.
It also says it's a compilation of 200 pieces of research, link https://drive.google.com/file/d/17zr-8_IKtyK615F9Oeshw6kfgQeNgi7R/view which are proper documents and which shouldn't be dismissed quite as easily just because it came in a Sun wrapper.
Scaffolder here and like others have said all the risk is designed out nowadays (at least at the top end of companies/works)
An example here is something we did last year, instead of hanging over the side of a building hanging the scaffold it was built on the floor and connected at the top, we also use tethered fittings and tubes for real high risk stuff
Also the wages are way off, post Brexit even a shit scaffolder down south is on 50K minimum
Those guys who work on live pylons get good money. Especially after a storm. No idea of training required though.
Compression divers get alot of bonuses but relying on a deckcrew of Nigerian spanners to hold your capsules at 5bar so you don't die if it deco's would be a worry
Stunt men on films get well paid. I used to fence (swordplay) with a guy who was learning driving, fighting , diving, etc.
The HMRC list of occupational pensions that can be drawn early might point you in the right direction.
How much dosh do you need?
Hgv driving tankers should be accessable if your willing to train up.
F1 driver used to be the most dangerous job in the world in deaths per year per employee, just over 1%. Pays pretty well too
South African cash in transit. Looks dangerous, not sure a lot pay.
Cash job
Nursing🙄🤣
In my time i have been exposed to TB, covid and have caught noro twice and scabies twice
It's your own fault tj, you refused to wear a helmet.
War officer for Putin or anything that you do unsuccessfully for Kim Jong-Un. Syrian Christian missionary.
That dangerous jobs list needs splitting into two sections. The first is actually dangerous jobs, and the second of not-actually-dangerous-but-statistically-skewed-because-stupid-people-take-lazy-shortcuts.
I'd say that farming is the most dangerous job (particularly cattle), but I grew up on a farm and the needless risks I'd see people take around machinery was horrifying. Part of it was sheer laziness - not stopping the PTO when working around the back of the tractor; connecting and disconnecting hydraulic lines under load; not fixing broken parking-brakes; and one particularly memorable occasion where a dodgy starter solenoid was bypassed by jamming a 5kg copper bus-bar between the battery contact and the starter while the tractor was in gear.
labourer in a mine in a developed country. just try to avoid being squashed by a heavy hauler
Deckhand/Roustabout offshore North Sea - preferably Norway if you want to good money and shift patterns. Long shifts (12 hours) but generally 2/3weeks on 2/3 off. Can be hard work in shit weather, but not actually that dangerous if you're in anyway sensible.
Basically anything offshore pays way better than the onshore equivalent. Just need your Bosiet/Mist certificate which is a week long course covering Fire-Fighting/Fire-evac/Helicopter escape/HSSE legislation. Most rigs in the UK/Norway sector are pretty comfy too.
I did a felling job on an old munitions site that required a bomb disposal presence whilst we worked. Chatting to the lad from bomb disposal about what would happen if we found something and his previous disposal jobs sounded pretty sketchy. His limbs did still appear to be originals though.
Some friends of mine are in the explosives business and had to decontaminate a pharmcetucal plant after an accident involving production of Nitroglycerin for high blood pressure treatment. The stuff had got everywhere - in ventilation ducts and so on - and posed the double fun of both being an unstable explosive material but also one if you got it on your skin or inhaled it your blood pressure would tank and you'd black out- whilst handling explosive materials.
Across all areas of work we don't include 'driving' as part of the workplace risk. The HSE says around 120 people get 'killed at work' each year, but five times that number die in road accidents travelling to from or for work - with only around a 10th of those people who's profession is some sort of driving. Not sure what percentage of those drivers are in TEAMS meetings.
The sector I work in is lobbying to reduce working hours - its only 'overtime' if we work more than 55 hours a week (which doesnt include travel time) - over concerns of the risk of accidents on the way too and from work.
60% of firefighters have mental health issues.
The last one I knew got convicted of arson. He was a reserve or on-call or what have you, got pissed up one night and decided he'd earn himself an extra job or two.
Deckhand/Roustabout offshore North Sea – preferably Norway if you want to good money and shift patterns.
The UK sector is simply not worth it. If you're very very lucky you'll be doing 2/3 but most places will be 2/2 or 3/3. That's before we even mention service companies where it's whatever/whatever (3 on 1 off is not uncommon).
Bear in mind that 2/2 is not actually 14 days on/14 days off. Right off the bat it's 15/13 because you have to travel to the rig. Getting to the heliport can add another day at each end onto that. Let's not mention fog and being stuck offshore.
Contrast that with Norway where 2/4 is the norm (and you still get paid more).
Problem is you won't get a job in Norway as a foreigner until you're very very experienced and they are desperate.
Those guys who work on live pylons get good money. Especially after a storm. No idea of training required though
Loads of training post an apprenticeship as well so years to get there (from my understanding after chatting to a few people)
@macruiskeen when I first started working with explosives in the army in the 1980s, we were still using up old stocks of 'Nobel's 808' for explosive demolitions. A WW2 era nitroglycerine based plastic explosive. It had effectively been replaced in service by PE4 - a more modern RDX based plastic explosive similar to US C4. PE4 was safer to handle, more stable in storage, less toxic, easier to mould into shape and a more powerful explosive. But we had to use up the 808. It was famous for giving you 'NG head' - a skull crushing headache caused by nitroglycerine absorption through the skin. The official antidote advice was 'drink alcohol', I shit you not. Blow shit up, get leathered. Happy days!
Offshore/maritime type work can seem to offer good pay but it all depends how it's broken down.
If you are self employed and getting paid £500 per day on 2/2 or 4/4 rotation and work around 6 months a year, that's about £90k a year. That would be a job in a supervisory/management type role.
Great.
Then break it down as an hourly rate.
You will be working a 12hr shift, typically a little more than that, so that's £42 per hour.
However, if you base that around a job that is based on a 8 hr day 5 days a week. You could expect to be paid over time for 4 hrs per day and weekend working.
That hourly rate comes down to around £30 per hour.
That doesn't even count the captive time when off shift.
Throw in paying for your own certificates, missing stuff at home and sometimes the general discomfort, not such a good deal.
Your best bet is get a vessel or rig that qualifies for your 100% tax rebate.
Yes you can earn decent money but there are a lot of sacrifices to be made.
The data from hse is not exposure adjusted by occupation, only sector, but the most dangerous occupation I believe is scaffolder due to falls from height. This is the commonest cause of occupation death.
Notably, there were 80 deaths of members of the public too (excluding patients in the NHS). Also our fatality rate is 5x lower than France, which I find very surprising indeed.
Semi-Professional drug trialist can pay well as an additional income if you have a clean bill of health, with very low risk. Btw you don’t get paid for risk, only inconvenience. If it was risky, we would do the trial!
the risk is designed out nowadays
The house opposite me had an unsecured stepladder on the third floor level, with a very low barrier. Of course it was side on too. I reported it.
Also our fatality rate is 5x lower than France, which I find very surprising indeed.
Despite what a lot of people think, we have a quite robust H&S culture. A lot of it is driven by lessons learnt in the North Sea, where fatalities were common place in the 70's & 80's.
I have worked with European companies and they used UK IOSH and NEBOSH qualifications as standard for H&S officers.
France has little offshore activity and has lots of farmers..........
Also our fatality rate is 5x lower than France, which I find very surprising indeed.
Can sometimes just be in the definition - as I mention above - five times more people die behind the wheel as part of their daily work activities than we in the UK count as a 'death in the workplace' So the scope in terms of what is or isn't being counted might not be the same when comparing between countries.
Now that we have a more dispersed workforce with a lot of people working from home or in the field our accounting of workplace safety might not be keeping up with our ideas of where the 'workplace' is and where people are when they're working. Does a deliveroo rider being knocked off their bike count as a workplace incident? Or tripping over the printer lead in your home office?
statistically-skewed-because-stupid-people-take-lazy-shortcuts.
I’d say that farming is the most dangerous job (particularly cattle), but I grew up on a farm and the needless risks I’d see people take around machinery was horrifying. Part of it was sheer laziness
It's probably also dangerous as it's an informal setting and your typical farmer probably isn't that hot on enforcing rules and safe systems of work for employees. I'd also imagine the percentage of unreported injuries are pretty high?
’d say that farming is the most dangerous job (particularly cattle), but I grew up on a farm and the needless risks I’d see people take around machinery was horrifying. Part of it was sheer laziness
I believe that there's also a higher incidence of skin cancer from prolonged exposure to the sun and some other highly unpleasant occupational hazards relating to chemical exposure (pesticides and sheep dip for example).
Sitting on cranes whilst eating a sandwich.
The link didn’t work, but I knew exactly which photo was referred to.
Photoshop didn’t exist until the late 90’s, early 00’s, when I started using Photoshop 3.0. That’s not to say manipulation of photographic images didn’t take place; it did, practically from the beginning. The expression ‘photographs don’t lie’ is a lie - photos lie through their teeth! However, there’s no obvious manipulation of that image, and a lot of the blokes who worked the ‘high steel’ were First Nations, as they were reputed to have no fear of heights.
Neither do I, it’s long drops, with an abrupt stop at the bottom I’m afraid of…
Interesting fact, generally the acceptable level of risk in most industry is about 1/10th of the risk associated with commuting by car.
So following that to it's logical conclusion, any job involving driving is more dangerous than most?
I'm not sure risk and reward are all that linked anyway. I've done some jobs that paid £400/day just to sit in a hotel room for the day on call. Very little skill needed either, it was just quite niche kit so more a case of right place at the right time to learn.
Lion prostate checker...
You may get scratched...
I’d also imagine the percentage of unreported injuries are pretty high?
How would we know?
The link didn’t work, but I knew exactly which photo was referred to.
Photoshop didn’t exist until the late 90’s, early 00’s
I think you missed a post. The original posted image called out as PS was PS, someone had taken That image and changed out the people in it.
Basically anything offshore pays way better than the onshore equivalent. Just need your Bosiet/Mist certificate which is a week long course covering Fire-Fighting/Fire-evac/Helicopter escape/HSSE legislation. Most rigs in the UK/Norway sector are pretty comfy too.
Your unlikely to get a Roustie job with just BOSIET/MIST. Add Banksman/Slinger (3 days £1k) OERTM (5 days +£2k) and HERTM (4 days £2k) to that list as a minimum.
Photoshop didn’t exist until the late 90’s, early 00’s, when I started using Photoshop 3.0. That’s not to say manipulation of photographic images didn’t take place; it did, practically from the beginning. The expression ‘photographs don’t lie’ is a lie – photos lie through their teeth!
I was manipulating images digitally from about 1984. The job wasn't dangerous but ye god's it paid well. Sadly when Photoshop came along things started to go downhill fast until today when the only real danger is death by tedium.