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God damn limeys, probably just angry at the realization you're no longer a world superpower 😛


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 12:30 pm
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Quite the opposite, we're just surprised that the 'B' Ark did so well.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 12:32 pm
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I'm guilty of "Can I get a" and every time I hear myself say it I want to cut my face off...

Is there a support group I can join?


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 12:35 pm
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There's a certain magazine *just goes to check that shouldn't acutally be spelt with an s* that is favoured in these parts that has been slipping an increasing number of 'super this' and 'super that' references in of late. That REALLY gets my goat. You're from bleeding Todmorden, not Califonia.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 12:56 pm
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and what's [i]for free[/i] meant to mean ? what's the [i]for[/i] for ? if there is no cost its simply [i]free[/i]
and don't get me started on [i]train station[/i]


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 1:24 pm
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Train station?


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 1:25 pm
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its a railway station and was for at least 150 years before train station crept across the water


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 1:29 pm
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When was the last time you heard 'controversy' or 'privacy' pronounced correctly on the Beeb

Its not just me then!


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 1:32 pm
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Really?

Seems reasonable, by analogy with bus station.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 1:34 pm
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A bus station is where buses stop. A train station is where trains stop.

(Sent from my workstation)


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 1:43 pm
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[i]train station[/i] may well be a reasonable term - but its not British nor historically correct


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 1:48 pm
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A bus station is where buses stop. A train station is where trains stop.

Bus terminus?


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 1:50 pm
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but its not British nor historically correct

Don't be stupid.

I'm sure you are so incensed you can barely see your VDU. Why not go out for a walk to calm down, taking care to avoid any motorcars or omnibuses, or even ladies with perambulators.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 2:00 pm
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Ok so which is worse americanism's or estuary english?

I'm still mourning the loss of the Sussex dialect...
(I blame those naughty but pretty girls of the 4th form who preferred a coarser tongue)
at least some of the words survive - I often sneak through a twitten and climb a bostal


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 2:01 pm
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Its? It's 'it's'. FFS.

Those in glasshouses ...


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 2:02 pm
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those naughty but pretty girls of the 4th form who preferred a coarser tongue

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Posted : 27/06/2011 2:05 pm
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Americanisation is the Americanization of the word Americanization
"the -ize spelling is often incorrectly viewed in Britain as an Americanism" apparently


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 2:20 pm
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I'm sure I read that the "american" language is how we spoke in England in the 17th century.

Therefore, its us who have evolved, and the yanks are just old-fashioned.

That's a common claim, although it would appear to me that "centre" for example, is from Norman French and the yanks somewhere along the line changed it.

Personally I'm not bothered how the yanks speak or spell, I just wish they wouldn't call it English.......there must be copyright/intellectual property infringement issues there somewhere.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:20 pm
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I'm not bothered how the yanks speak or spell, I just wish they wouldn't call it English...

I don't really mind them calling it English, it's American English but it's still English. The problem for me is when it's assumed that English = American.

What really chaffs my arse is websites etc that use the Stars & Stripes to signify an English language choice, or when I'm installing software and it says "Choose language: [English (US)]."


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:30 pm
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This recurring ranting amuses me greatly. My work requires precision in language, which appeals to my pendantic nature. However, none of the above examples that so irritate and annoy have the slightest concern for me; I understand them clearly.

The quesiton is not one of trying to grasp a singular and accurate definition of English (for we don't have an Academie), but to recognize which are the preferred modes of speech and written communication to enable us to deal with each other on the most efficacious bases.

Everything else is just reactionary middle-aged men looking for something about which they can feel superior. Get a grip, granddads.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:36 pm
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Everything else is just reactionary middle-aged men looking for something about which they can feel superior.

To be fair, I'm not sure anyone's ever claimed otherwise?


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:38 pm
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S[u]k[/u]edule - it's [u]sch[/u]edule FFS


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:39 pm
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What really chaffs my arse is websites etc that use the Stars & Stripes to signify an English language choice, or when I'm installing software and it says "Choose language: [English (US)].

You should be proud of it - it just demonstrates what an enormous impact this small island has had on the world 🙂


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:40 pm
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Skedule - it's schedule FFS

What about "technical"? How do [u]you[/u] pronounce that?


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:47 pm
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I don't really mind them calling it English, it's American English but it's still English.

Yeah well I do. They ought to call it American. Although to be fair English like what we speak, should perhaps be called British. Preferably Great British.

EDIT : And why do they pronounce "missiles" as you would rissoles - there's really no excuse for that 😐


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:49 pm
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They ought to call it American

Then we'd be saying, "cheeky bastards, stealing our language and then renaming it to look like they came up with it."


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 3:53 pm
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pendantic nature

Not pedantic enough.... ;O)


 
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recognize which are the preferred modes of speech and written communication to enable us to deal with each other on the most efficacious bases.

You might want to work on that a little. Something like "speak and write clearly" ought to do it.

🙂


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 7:46 pm
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They ought to call it American

Some do.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 7:48 pm
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Get a grip, granddads.

+1!

Get over yourselves or better still try this place

[url= http://www.grumpieroldmen.co.uk/forum/phpBB3/index.php ]Grumpies[/url]


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 7:50 pm
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I'm so with ourmaninthenorth on this one. Bill Bryson wrote a whole book about it, well worth reading by the grumpy old men on here. [i]Mother Tongue[/i] is what you ought to check out.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 8:47 pm
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I nearly throw my life away for a meaningless brutal assault every time I hear someone say, "can i get a....". I can't go into starbucks or costa any more for fear I can't resist the urge to bludgeon some [b]groli[/b] to death with a sturdy mug.

'groli'...is that Guardian Reader of Low Intelligence?


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 9:17 pm
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My bugbear is the failure to distinguish between an adVERB and an adjective in sports commentary. Ok - we accept it in football (just, because....) but now it has invaded Wimbledon. He played good, she is breathing heavy.....aaaaarrrrghhhh!!


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 9:23 pm
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My bugbear is the failure to distinguish between an adVERB and an adjective in sports commentary. Ok - we accept it in football (just, because....) but now it has invaded Wimbledon. He played good, she is breathing heavy.....aaaaarrrrghhhh!!

Hear Hear!
"Likely" is an adjective, as in "It is a likely occurrence"
If you need an adverb of it, try "probably".

And prepositions! It's "different FROM", not "different than".


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 9:31 pm
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The pussyfication of BrE by AmE is an insidious & unwelcome encroachment – much like how McDonalds nudged Wimpy into the shadows by the mid 80’s. Yeah... you may laugh now but this is serious business.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 9:32 pm
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Yeah I'm laughing ' cos it's gonna happen whether you like it or not. Get used to it. More important things in the World to worry about than a bit of slang. 😀


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 9:37 pm
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Steve Peat is Great Britain's winningest downhill mountain biker.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 9:38 pm
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its a railway station and was for at least 150 years before train station crept across the water

surely the Americanis/zation of that would be rail[i]road[/i] station?


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 9:38 pm
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Get a grip, granddads.

Because of course American speak wasn't hip the 1950s daddy-o.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 9:41 pm
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I often gave the students a choice to believe 300billion Americans were correct or the language spoken by 62million people in Britain.
What I did object to, though, was American teachers telling students that the British English was wrong, it happened on more than one ocassion.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 9:42 pm
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Mother Tongue is what you ought to check out.

Couldn't agree more CZ. I happen to think it's his best book. I still pick it up occasionally now and have a read of a chapter.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 9:43 pm
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'groli'...is that Guardian Reader of Low Intelligence?

Yup. I think it was a doctors thing they used. Can't remember now but it accurately describes a certain section of the population.


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 9:45 pm
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Get used to it. More important things in the World to worry about than a bit of slang.

So our language is being murdered by a bunch of semi-literate uppity ex-colonials who can't speak the Queen's English nor appreciate the glorious sound of leather on willow, and you think we should put up with it ?

Sometimes I truly despair - no wonder the country's in such a mess 😐


 
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'groli'...is that Guardian Reader of Low Intelligence?

Yup. I think it was a doctors thing they used. Can't remember now but it accurately describes a certain section of the population.

Thought so!

They also had a variation of that, 'groliies' which stood for Guardian Reader of Low Intelligence in Ethnic Skirt...which describes about half of my colleagues.

😛


 
Posted : 27/06/2011 9:54 pm
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What really gets on my wick is the geographical descriptions they use.

Like "The Great Pyramid, Giza, Egypt".

Just as well they said that, i could have confused it with the one in Las Vegas.

Insular springs to mind.


 
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