Crap soil pipe
 

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So, a simple re-tile job of a downstairs toilet is turning into a bit of a headache.

The floor was sloped and 4-5" higher than the adjoining one and so with no water pipes under the concrete I figured it'd be reasonably straight forward to level it all out. Unfortunately the re-routing of the soil pipe was the reason for the raised floor as the top of the PVCu pipe was 15mm higher than the level I required.

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Figured, as I was this far in (found 4 floors) I may as well have a look at the joints and see if there was anything I could do to drop it slightly. Excavating the clay PVCu joint revealed a void in the soil where'd there'd obviously been a leak.

This is what I found:

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The lesser known 'bottomless putty tub' connector inside a coupling joint.

Anyway, any advice on how the improve/flatten the soil pipe? Grinder & cutting disc?

There's only 2" of pipe at the low point and 4" at the high point so I could do without cracking the pipe. I guess seperating the concreted joint isn't an easy option either?


 
Posted : 31/07/2014 8:21 am
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Put it all back and box it in!

Otherwise you'll be tracing all the soil pipe leaks back to the main road!

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Posted : 31/07/2014 8:26 am
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Grinder and some abrasive discs or diamond blade with care not to overheat it.


 
Posted : 31/07/2014 8:27 am
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You can get a flexible joint for soil pipes, I used one when I found a crack in the soil pipe under the patio - cut the crack out with an angle grinder and jointed the two parts together with a plastic repair section.

I got mine for screfix I think, but similar to this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SOIL-PIPE-DRAIN-RUBBER-BAND-REPAIR-FLEXIBLE-COUPLING-110MM-PVC-CAST-IRON-ADAPTOR-/161136234784


 
Posted : 31/07/2014 8:29 am
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Grinder carefully and get a band seal with both end diameters to connect.


 
Posted : 31/07/2014 8:31 am
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It's not so much the re-jointing I'm bothered about. It's the making good of the clay pipe.

Slowly with a grinder then letting it cool whilst having plenty of tea!


 
Posted : 31/07/2014 8:34 am
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It's the making good of the clay pipe.

If it was me, I'd just replace it with a new PVC one.


 
Posted : 31/07/2014 8:35 am
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If it was me, I'd just replace it with a new PVC one.

Don't think it's that easy unless you can enlighten me. Under the soil is the clay 90 deg bend. I don't want to excavate any further so my options appear to be:

1) Level off that break and join at that point

2) Split the two clay pipes where they've been cemented together.

I don't like option 2 as it's pretty risky I'll crack the 90 deg clay piece and then be in more trouble.


 
Posted : 31/07/2014 8:41 am
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Do this then:

1) Level off that break and join at that point

Find a section well supported (buried), then carefully grind it to flat and couple onto PVC.


 
Posted : 31/07/2014 8:44 am
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That clay pipe cracks at the slightest provocation. It actually cuts very well with a diamond blade but any movement will open it up at a join (where it probably already has a hairline crack). Hard to tell how jagged it is but a rubber coupling should slip over it as is, or with minimal grinding, no need to go completely flat. Top tip, soak the coupling in warm water than apply a little silicon grease (or washing up liquid) and it should slide over easily. Also put a capped Tee rather than an elbow at the top. That will give a good rodding point.


 
Posted : 31/07/2014 9:30 am