[Closed] could this happen? islamic future?

Cue "The Illuminati" did it?

Esselgrunty are you Disco Stu ?
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Cue "The Illuminati" did it?

I'm still skeptical, but you have to wonder; if this is a hoax, it's a bloody good one:

[b]Albert Pike and Three World Wars[/b]

Albert Pike received a vision, which he described in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order, and we can marvel at how accurately it has predicted events that have already taken place.
Pike's Letter to Mazzini

It is a commonly believed fallacy that for a short time, the Pike letter to Mazzini was on display in the British Museum Library in London, and it was copied by William Guy Carr, former Intelligence Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy. The British Library has confirmed in writing to me that such a document has never been in their possession. Furthermore, in Carr's book, Satan, Prince of this World, Carr includes the following footnote:

"The Keeper of Manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum Library. It seems strange that a man of Cardinal Rodriguez's knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925".

It appears that Carr learned about this letter from Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, who wrote The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled.

To date, no conclusive proof exists to show that this letter was ever written. Nevertheless, the letter is widely quoted and the topic of much discussion.

Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations.

[b]"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."[/b]

Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.

[b]"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."[/b]

After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.

(Readers who argue that the terms Nazism and Zionism were not known in 1871 should remember that the Illuminati invented both these movements. In addition, Communism as an ideology, and as a coined phrase, originates in France during the Revolution. In 1785, Restif coined the phrase four years before revolution broke out. Restif and Babeuf, in turn, were influenced by Rousseau - as was the most famous conspirator of them all, Adam Weishaupt.)

[b]"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." [/b]

Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events, and in particular in the Middle East, show a growing unrest and instability between Modern Zionism and the Arabic World. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.

[b]To date, no conclusive proof exists to show that this letter was ever written. Nevertheless, the letter is widely quoted and the topic of much discussion.[/b]

To date, no conclusive proof that god exists

FTFY

That kind of attitude is not going to protect you from either the fundamentalists or the illuminati.

That kind of attitude is not going to protect you from either the fundamentalists or the illuminati.

"Respect, Bo Selecta"

Looks like it according to Wikipedia if past census is anything to go by.....

The table was a mangled mess so I've tidied that up for you. (Can't fit the titles without killing the forum formatting I'm afraid.)

To date, no conclusive proof exists to show that this letter was ever written. Nevertheless, the letter is widely quoted and the topic of much discussion.

That is a very fair point, although it appears it may have first become public around the 1890s...

When you consider things such as

The letter is allegedly written to [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Mazzini ]Guiseppe Mazzini[/url], who was pivotal in founding the mafia

[url= http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar ]Prescott Bush funding and profiting from the Nazis[/url]

Brothers [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Foster_Dulles ]John Foster Dulles[/url](U.S. Sec of State) and [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Dulles ]Allen Dulles[/url](Director of CIA) are said to have met with Banker [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Baron_von_Schr%C3%B6der ]Baron Kurt von Schroder[/url] before Hitler's rise to power and were involved in [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip ]Operation Paperclip[/url] and [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat ]Operation Ajax[/url]

Your head starts hurting and you rest for a while before taking on any more information 😆

The Illuminati and the Albert Pike letter?

jhj, I am very, very disappointed.

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You were doing so well on the Paedogeddon thread, but it would appear you really are madder than a lightly salted wasp after all.
😐

I knew I should have bought shares in tin foil.

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I'm just open to exploration is all... breaks up the monotony of the bullshit we're fed;

be honest; deep down, we all know we can't trust politics, or religion, (as Iraq war and paedo priests have proved) So having a go at scratching beneath the surface to see if anything tangible comes together...

as I say, I'm not convinced yet, but not so long ago, folk thought the earth was flat... how long since domestic electricity and cars became commonplace?

Our understanding of the world is constantly changing... be foolish to discount these things completely until you've researched them thoroughly.

Still not buying the lizard guff mind...

But I do know the vast profits certain interests make from war

And willing to bet big money that there is far more to the Jimmy Savile story than has yet been revealed...

Especially where Jersey is concerned 🙁

Surprised the Pew Forum hasn't popped up. Admittedly, I didn't check with any thoroughness.

Cheers Cougar, i just copied & pasted from Wiki.

[i]esselgrunty, are you Disco Stu?[/i]

Not as far as I'm aware.

sorry i asked now........ 😀

sorry i asked now........

Cheer yourself up, works for me.

I'm still skeptical, but you have to wonder; if this is a hoax, it's a bloody good one:

Anyway...does anyone have any evidence that the UK will NOT be predominantly Islamic in the future, say 2050? (that was the intimation of the OP wasn't it?)
Or is that unpredictable?

If anyone is genuinely worried about the uk becoming an Islamic state,
Watch xfactor on catch up.

If that does not reassure you I don't know what will.
The biggest religion in this town is celebrity.

Hmmmm... Those quotes from the Quran about war.. I wonder what the original Arabic word was and if there is some subtlety lost in the translation.

Anyway...does anyone have any evidence that the UK will NOT be predominantly Islamic in the future, say 2050? (that was the intimation of the OP wasn't it?)
Or is that unpredictable?

Islam being the largest religion, or Muslims forming the majority?

Chip has it, Islamification won't be defeated by the EDL, nigel faraidge or Raising the terror threat level

It'll be integrated into our society; top gear, primark, xfactor, coronation street, and Manchester city will do the work

As for will we all be wearing burkahs by 2050, not if Muslims prosper and become educated; the birth rate and religiousness drops as income and education levels rise

But who really knows, after world war 2 there was a huge increase in west Indian immigration to the uk, I'm sure if you extrapolated out from the right point there you could predict that wed all be rastafari by 2020

I wonder why all of Islam isn't outraged by this 0.0001 percent that they supposedly do not align themselves with ,slaughter women and children ,not a peep, portray a cartoon of black Allah world war three erupts, bizzarre that

There will be no x factor under Islamic state ...

No xfactor ?

Catschrodinger, can you garuantee that? Maybe its not so bad afterall

I'd convert for that

Well its that or twelve weeks of burkhas singing in the run up to Xmas number 1, how do we know who won it for real,was it rigged or was it a tape recorder vest under there

I though it was all fake now anyway, I'm struggling to see any difference

It'll be integrated into our society; top gear, primark, xfactor, coronation street, and Manchester city will do the work

Can I ask a serious question to the islamaphobes that are posting on this thread.. errr, it's very noble of you to be worrying about our future in this way, even if the more sane amongst us believe that you're barking (sic) up the wrong tree, so err.... what else do you get your knickers in a twist about?

What other threats to our lifestyle should we be worrying about?
Or is it just brown people that we should fear?

They can have X-factor, but if those ****ers try and take my bacon butties away from me there will be war.

[i]Islam being the largest religion, or Muslims forming the majority?[/i]

Answering a question by asking 2 questions? You ARE a politishun & I claim my £5!

By 2050 I'd say both. Islam will be the largest religion therefore Muslims will be the largest majority. Unless loads of Muslims decide they're not following Islam anymore. Which I very much doubt.

Anyhow, I'll be either dead or 94 so I'm not that arsed, but a lot of people will be I reckon.

I quite enjoyed my turkey rasher, egg and cheese subway up in london village this morning

What other threats to our lifestyle should we be worrying about?
Or is it just brown people that we should fear?

The biggest threat is the Wombles taking over.
Specialy that Mc Scottish womble he's a right sinister bastard.

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It must be quite sad living in a world where you are certain that your country will be overrun by scary brown suicide bombers in your twighlight years essygrunt

By 2050 I'd say both. Islam will be the largest religion therefore Muslims will be the largest majority.

Meanwhile the west are worrying about their bacon sandwiches ,the Chinese are quietly thinking to themselves....

Edit to answer yunki, the French I ****ing detest the entire nation

Edit 2 scrap that the eurocrat a far bigger threat than brown people and they push the French into second

It must be quite sad living in a world where you are certain that your country will be overrun by scary brown suicide bombers in your twighlight years essygrunt

There won't be any suicide bombers in the UK in 2050 because Muslims will most likely be a democratically elected majority running the country and will have nothing to rebel about.

Hmmmm... Those quotes from the Quran about war.. I wonder what the original Arabic word was and if there is some subtlety lost in the translation.

I have no doubt the Quran has passages on killing infedels.

Like the bible has similar, the bible is not gospel you know it is The handbook on how to control a nation who have had the fear of god put into them. Which should be used by selecting the chapter and verse which best suits your designs on a nation on any given day. Written by a bunch of clever people who have pulled a right flanker.

I think I read once that if you bought a copy of every Sunday paper complete with supplements and spent the weekend reading them all from cover to cover , you would have taken in more information that weekend than an average fourteenth century person did in there lifetime.

So how hard was to pull the wool over peoples eyes before that.

I believe some ones religion should be between them and god , to be practised at home or amongst similar minded people. But should never impact on anyone else who chooses not to believe your beliefs.

There won't be any suicide bombers in the UK in 2050 because Muslims will most likely be a democratically elected majority running the country and will have nothing to rebel about.

Maybe theyll all be scared of christianic ray guns, eh?

Wouldn't happen. The military wouldn't stand for it.

There won't be any suicide bombers in the UK in 2050 because Muslims will most likely be a democratically elected majority running the country and will have nothing to rebel about.

Wouldn't happen. The military wouldn't stand for it.

Growing up I new a very mean woman with a 5 year child who whenever he would not do as he was told, she told him the men would come and get him.
He would then burst into tears and immediately do as he was told.

I asked her who were the men, she said the men from the children's home.
She had explained the concept of a children's home to him slightly embellishing on how grim a life in care was (probably not considering Rotherham).

To the point this kid was absolutely petrified of the men.

Same principle .

Unless the military is full of Muslims wrecker......

This would all be funny if it went so desperately paranoid

Even if our PM in 2050 is called Hamza Ismali , he'll still have been educated at Eton, be looking out for his mates in the city and ****ing over the plebs

Thus its been since we were Celts, Saxons, Vikings, Romans, Normans, Neanderthals or Denisovans, the history of humanity is a history of migration; populatins and nations are dynamic, things change, get over it, stop being afraid and be nice to people

Well as I type single into google it comes up with singlemuslim.com before it suggests singletrack world

Hmmmmmm

Doesn't google give you those hits based on your own search history 🙂

[i]It must be quite sad living in a world where you are certain that your country will be overrun by scary brown suicide bombers in your twighlight years essygrunt[/i]

You pissed kimbers, or sniffing glue? I never intimated I was any of those, I simply quoted something I found on Wikipedia (which may or may not be true)

'Your country' did you say?
Which is 'your' country then?

You are a crank & I claim yet another £5.00!!

I do not know it hasn't given me shemalemuslim.com so maybe that's not how it works and considering its now throwing out down the pub time I am dissapointed I'm resorting to the web

Before I begin, I realize this thread isn't directly about terrorists, but no doubt recent events in the media have raised general awareness and suspicion of Muslims...

Since you are over 300x more likely to be killed in a car crash than by a terrorist, why are there never scary headlines warning you of the dangers?

Could it be because it would affect sales of cars, petrol and the oil based products car care products in plastic containers also based on oil which supplement the industry?

Whereas, scary headlines about Islamic terrorists help sell weapons and help keep oil prices lower (for the big companies who 'exploit' resources, like Halliburton and BP etc)

Who profited from the Iraq war again?

Wonder if media mogul Rupert Murdoch has any interests in the Oil and Gas industry...

A dangerous terrorist:

"But who really knows, after world war 2 there was a huge increase in west Indian immigration to the uk, I'm sure if you extrapolated out from the right point there you could predict that wed all be rastafari by 2020"

you can't ignore the lessons of history. in 1907, people warned that based on rates of immigration into London we'd all be Jewish within three decades. one century on, where are we? we're 55 million Jewish Rastafarians, that's where. we can't say we weren't warned.

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I was right.
We can't have a sensible discussion about this can we?

I've decided to eat as much pork and drink as much alcohol as possible while I still have the chance.

I think you have to watch xfactor as well

You might want to squeeze in some gay sex too cheif.

yolo

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/27/us-muslims-population-idUSTRE70Q12D20110127

No need to worry the Russians will sort it all out......

No need to worry the Russians will sort it all out......

Aren't they also fans of hurding people into shallow graves before machine gunning em?

Ah my mistake that's the balkan area

Would make good top trumps cards though. Religious fantics of the world top trumps......christianity wonder what that would work out at

Chechens vs ISIS too close to call

You've got me thinking about this whole history thing now...

Countries who claim Christianity surely have the most genocidal tendencies by a [s]good[/s] bad margin

Especially if you count proxy killings through weapons sales and manipulations by the intelligence agencies.

Not only do you have the colonization of the new world, slavery, the opium wars and imperial rule of India etc, but even after the world wars (seemingly funded by western financiers such as the Rothschilds and Prescott Bush) we have covert operations such as Op Ajax, Op Condor and Op Cyclone... that's before you factor in the near continual engagement in war by the USA

Maybe we should encourage Muslims and see how it pans out, surely the can't be much more murderous than our propaganda fuelled leaders?

Of all the religions, Jedi is probably best though...