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We got a schnoodle 3yrs ago from a workmate. Cost me £500 he is turning out to be a fantastic mutt. As far as i am concerned he is a mongrel, my daughter calls him a schnoddle-being as she believes he is human. He is much more athletic than a schnauzer, fantastic on the lead and obedient off the lead. He has had his incidents. He is rather highly strung and doesnt like being left so he gnaws stuff. i bought a big solid wooden bed for him and he seems to have settled on that. He is capable as a trail hound, he is very ball driven and he is amazingly sociable. As happy running 10miles off road as sitting on my wifes lap for cuddles or lying with me on the couch. We recently discovered when i was play fighting with my daughter that he is also very protective. I was rather shocked.
We wanted to get him a buddy and didnt want to be comparing so we got a Schnauzer instead. He is much less athletic and nowhere near as alert. He has all the schnauzer traits and has complemented his brother fantastically. Cost us £650 2yrs ago. Again, as far as i am concerned he is a mutt. He isnt quite as accomplished on and off the lead as his brother but he has a lot more self confidence. He wont easily bend his will but he is getting there and will settle in next 12mths.
I find it horrific that people will spend thousands on a mutt but it seems to be the way it is. All dogs are difficult but reward 10x. Just dont expect a cockerpoo or whatever dog to be incident free. It is a big investment in time and effort from everyone to get the most back.
I find it horrific that a relatively high level mammal like a dog was once so cheap that idiots could buy them on a whim just because they were a "mutt".
I also find the fact that the Kennel Club and their pedigree system has bred a lot of "pedigree" dogs into genetic oblivion and destroyed working limes in the pursuit of ridiculous shows, horrific.
I don't mind people who spend 2k on a cockapoo, hopefully it means they really thought about the decision and have enough money to look after them properly.
I recall like most breeds they do have some issues that the breed is prone too, something to do with ears (probably from the cocker side) more importantly there is something I think called fip, which is an issue with hip or knee displacement. Some breeders test and have a certificate to show the parents don’t have it.
The one to see the tests for with cockapoos is Progressive Retinal Atrophy. This is a DNA test done on the parents.
I don’t mind people who spend 2k on a cockapoo, hopefully it means they really thought about the decision and have enough money to look after them properly.
See now i am the reverse. I just see people with too much money buying the next throwaway item to fill their time. Once it has destroyed the wifes favourite chair or shit on the cream carpet, even at £2000, its disposable income to most.
I would much rather someone loved their mutt. Spent time with their mutt and taught it to be a loving pal for the rest of its life. A free mutt owned by a guy living on the street can be a happier dog than a £2000 trophy living in a posh house with poor owners.....
oakleymuppet, do you have a cockapoo?
See now i am the reverse. I just see people with too much money buying the next throwaway item to fill their time. Once it has destroyed the wifes favourite chair or shit on the cream carpet, even at £2000, its disposable income to most.
I would much rather someone loved their mutt. Spent time with their mutt and taught it to be a loving pal for the rest of its life. A free mutt owned by a guy living on the street can be a happier dog than a £2000 trophy living in a posh house with poor owners…..
Of course they can be.
However, I've come across a lot more angry and mistreated dogs in or near council estates than I have cockapoos in Henley or Richmond.
oakleymuppet, do you have a cockapoo
A Cockapoo and a Bedlington - all pre-COVID dogs. I only paid a few hundred quid for the Bedlington. Both ridiculous looking fluffy dogs, the Cockapoo was basically considered a pedigree dog in London whilst the Bedlington was confused with a poodle that had gone wrong and is somehow venerated as a well hard Northern dog, by construction workers who want a “proper” dog that is fluffy enough for their wife up here in Sheffield, where we are living now.
The Cockapoos the proper dog, the Bedlingtons a loveable air headed twit.
We have seen the clear PRA test certificates and pedigree for the father, which is a miniature poodle and the pedigree certs for the mother, a cocker spaniel so hopefully have checked out as much as we can in a private sale.
I don’t think you’d buy much of a cockapoo round here for £2000 though unless going to a dodgy gumtree supplier..
I don’t think you’d buy much of a cockapoo round here for £2000 though unless going to a dodgy gumtree supplier..
F my Welly boot, how much did you pay for the mongrel?!!
However, I’ve come across a lot more angry and mistreated dogs in or near council estates than I have cockapoos in Henley or Richmond.
Of course you have. A cockapoo has been bred to be a docile as possible, fit into middle class britain, not shed any hair etc. A nice little jack russell rescue or terrier on a council estate with a loving owner might just need a little more controlling. Also the fact half the cockapoos are locked indoors waiting for their owners to finish their 10hr shift and then open the back door for them to have a shite means you probably only see the ones who are lucky enough to get good owners/homes 🙂
I don’t think you’d buy much of a cockapoo round here for £2000 though unless going to a dodgy gumtree supplier..
Please explain 'much of a cockapoo' to me. All i know is a healthy happy dog is a good dog. Is there a scale that i dont know about that makes one better than the other?
By much I meant you’d get about 2/3 of one going by the current prices !
Oaft.
We have had our posh mongrel for a year now and I was a little reluctant having had a pointer and springer before but she is ace- great character, very intelligent like when she hears the toaster pop she knows she can scrounge a bit of crust and will run to the kitchen- only thing is she is very needy partly down to lockdown and us being with her all the time but she suffers from separation anxiety which needs training out of her[url= https://i.postimg.cc/0y0fk8xL/IMG-9469.jp g" target="_blank">https://i.postimg.cc/0y0fk8xL/IMG-9469.jp g"/> [/img][/url]
By much I meant you’d get about 2/3 of one going by the current prices ! Ahh that makes sense. I for some reason thought you were implying that the more you spent the better the dog.
Sorry
^^^ no worries, I didn’t word it very well !
Me and Fin are awaiting puppy pictures. Have you picked a name yet.
You may want to put some more air in the Levo forks for the basket assuming its going on the trails with you.
LOL 😂. Boys have picked the name, he’s Ollie !
Rest assured, FB will be flooded with pics I’m sure once we get him tomorrow !
Of course you have. A cockapoo has been bred to be a docile as possible,
Not really mate, the good ones are working cocker - miniature poodle crosses. Both still good working dogs - people underestimate poodles. The cockerpoo would have made a better working gun dog than all but one of the Springers my family have had.
As I mentioned earlier, I have a proper working stock Bedlington that very much looks like the old type of Bedlington you see in photos from the 1930s. He’s calmer and has less prey drive than the cockerpoo.
I don’t see many Jack Russells about these days, they’re middle/skilled working class dogs. The chavs have Staffies, Boston’s and whatever staffie bastard mix they think they can get round the dangerous dogs act.
It isn’t middle class Cockapoo owners responsible for the majority of mistreatment of dogs in this country, Id be hard pressed to get a cockerpoo rescue - whenever I look into rescues I get bombarded to take on ****ing staffies.
I’d be surprised if there are a lot of cockerpoos being locked up in Richmond or Henley as you can’t move without almost stepping on one when out and about.
I thought you might have gone with a traditional Scottish name. 😉
^^^ well I had a few in mind, but we said the boys could choose 😀
the good ones are working cocker – miniature poodle
we've got one - working cocker mum / miniature poodle dad and she's a cracking dog, agree with all the stuff above apart from she's ridiculously vocal, constantly chirping, grumbling, she's got two growls - one is a low level grumble and means nothing and the other a proper one.
But we were warned, as part working cocker you have to keep her busy or she'll go self employed, and you won't like the jobs they find for themselves.....
we’ve got one – working cocker mum / miniature poodle dad and she’s a cracking dog, agree with all the stuff above apart from she’s ridiculously vocal, constantly chirping, grumbling, she’s got two growls – one is a low level grumble and means nothing and the other a proper one.
It’s the Bedlington that’s not very vocal - he just sleuths around the house with this vacant velociraptor look in his eyes - unless he wants to play fight. The cockapoo of ours chirps like yours - she’s learnt that yapping is bad so she’s developed a weird chirping language for different things. It’s a poodle thing that cockapoos seem to inherit. She picks up balls and will either throw them at you if she’s bored, throw them down the stairs so she can chase them herself or she’ll go out of her way to find the Bedlington and will deliberately throw the ball his way and then lie there waiting for him to try and get it, when he finally does try to get it after a two minute Mexican standoff (where the Bedlington is trying to compute what to do) she will then chase him away yapping her head off. This seems to be her sense of humour.
ours will stand with a ball between her feet in a play bow teasing you to get it at which point she'll grab it and run off. If you can wait long enough though she'll eventually nose it to you, you throw it, she gets it back.........and it starts all over again.
ours will stand with a ball between her feet in a play bow teasing you to get it at which point she’ll grab it and run off.
Our labradoodle does this or plays tug of war with it for ages. Oddly our cockerpoo has no interest in fetch at all or any toys really. She still growls at the other one though and guards the toys she’s not remotely interested in otherwise 🙂
****, it sounds like this dog is gonna be smarter than me 🤔
ours will stand with a ball between her feet in a play bow teasing you to get it at which point she’ll grab it and run off. If you can wait long enough though she’ll eventually nose it to you, you throw it, she gets it back………and it starts all over again.
Yep! Ours does exactly this too. He just wants to be chased.
Echoing most of the above, the cleverest, most obedient, affectionate dog I’ve known. So much personality. He absolutely loves coming out with me on the bike, hates fireroad, loves singletrack.
Looks a bit like ours, Iain
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Great dog though. We’ve had her 4 years (didn’t pay £2k but she would have been worth it).
She’s very enthusiastic absolutely everything and is very friendly. She does bark at people walking past the house, which can get irritating and she has something against a few of the bigger dogs in the area - all bark.
Enjoy, anyway. It’s a steep learning curve.
Don’t get me wrong, the Bedlingtons a great dog - he’s more interested in people as opposed to playing fetch/retrieve and seems to gravitate towards people who are down - who he will attach himself to - unlike the cockapoo he’ll put himself between my wife and whatever frightens her eg a stranger approaching her. His way of getting attention is through petty thievery of things that he thinks you value and will chase him for. He has a ridiculous sense of smell and has stopped us from moving further forward on hikes as he’s spotted/smelled a snake in the undergrowth way before we would have seen it (if we would Have at all).
He’s just not as driven as the cockapoo to work, doesn’t attempt to communicate in quite such complex ways for a dog nor is he as quick at problem solving.
What I’m trying to say is that cockapoos have their place, people who turn their noses up at them are twits.
Yeah, they’re great dogs. Absolutely no regrets for us.
Looking forward to tomorrow’s walk as we’re going to her favourite place, where she’ll charge around the woods, barking at squirrels.
tenfoot- she’s lovely 👍
We have a long block paved drive that slopes down to the gate, at the top is a garden bench up against a brick retaining wall, Fin drops the tennis ball from the top of the wall, it rolls of the bench, launched down the drive which she chases and repeats. No one has shown her how do do this.
When the next doors dog comes round to play it waits at the bottom of the drive for Fin to drop the ball of the wall and then takes it back for her to repeat. Its a pleasure to watch.
Most of the time she's as laid back as me, she does like a bike ride.
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tenfoot- she’s lovely 👍
Thanks. We’re lucky to have her. Hope you enjoy yours as much as we do ours.
Cockapoo owner here, had her about 4 months now, got her at 11 weeks from a breeder. Thankfully I've known the breeder for a long time so could vouch for the dogs and got to see the parents and where they were brought up. Paid £1500 for her. Breeder has a good reputation across the UK so I know she's a good dog.
She's a great dog, keen to learn (with treats!) and pretty well behaved. Already have her off lead on re-call, walks nice on her lead and does all the usual sit, wait, high-5 and lie down!
Looking forward to taking her on a longer walks once she's older and maybe have her following the bike on rides!
Come from. springer spaniel a few years back, so similar temperament but seems less frantic! We're enjoying having her in the family.
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Well 1st night and first full day went well, he’s pretty chilled apart from when he’s awake and running about like mad ! He’s taken well to his crate in the kitchen having wandered in a few times during the day for a rest.
We are using toilet training pads, at the other end of the kitchen which he has used just a couple of times, but so far all his poos have been on the rug in living room 🙄. We are using the odour remover sprays on it and may end up sacrificing the rug after Christmas, but don’t want to lift it as it stops him skating around the wood floors !
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Imo toilet training pads are a very bad idea. They need to go to the toilet outside, so having a pad inside is counterintuitive.
We've got an almost 3 year old cockapoo....my best pal, and basically the perfect dog. Uber chilled, but a proper character. He's not a huge fan of rain, so opted out of his walk today 😂 Will do a big day in the mountains though too.
Yep agreed on puppy pads - never used them with mine, first few months we were getting up at 3am to let her out for a pee and toilet , after 5 months she will go until about 0630 and has only had one accident in the house. Now she lets us know when she wants to go out for the toilet, she had a look when she’s trotting around. Takes a few months and unsettled nights but worth it I think.
We're fairly lucky in all honesty....ours will go 13 hours without going to the toilet....probably more I'd guess!
Our cookerpoo doesn't like rain, or getting wet and avoids puddles / ponds unless he's chased a bird over a duckweed covered pond - needed a bath after that.
Needs taking for a haircut every 8-12 weeks, comes back looking like a different dog.
He's friendly as anything and very quiet, occasionally barks at our cats, but most of the time is silent.
The one thing we have to watch for is they're susceptible to ear problems caused by their hair / build up of wax which causes him to scratch his ears sometime. Ear drops usually keep on top of it.
Good info, thanks. Have ditched the pads and he’s been outside for most of his business today, just one accident wee inside. Oh, and he realised if he pushes a cushion to the edge of the couch he can use it as launch pad to get onto said couch !