[Closed] Cliff Richard's former flat complex searched in 80s Child Sex Abuse investigatio

CountZero - Member
....We were pretty much inseparable for the rest of the holiday, and things got pretty steamy, but didn't go quite as far as full intercourse. As far as I was concerned, she was at least my age, if not slightly older, and I never felt any need to interrogate her, so imagine my shock when, in a letter she wrote later that year she happened to say it was her birthday coming up, and in reply to my next letter asking how old she was, she said 14!...

Well underage, steamy eh? and evidence in the form of correspondence?

Mate, if I were you, I'd get a shredder before you start hearing BBC helicopters... 🙂

Seems a reasonable version of events TBH...
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Of course it's easy to say they're covering their tracks, but it's quite easy to imagine an unofficial leak to the BBC as well, no?

Unless the BBC were psychic it was a bad police officer who leaked it unofficially, maybe for payment.
They should be trying to weed that person out to be sacked at the very least.

So the police force then effectively crumbled under fear of blackmail that if they did not agree to work with the reporter they would publish the story .

In my mind that is even worse than if they officially leaked it .

Means we have got atleast one corrupt police officer serving on a weak force that are not fit for purpose .

That's a bit of a naive position, if it's genuinely what you think and you're not just arguing for the sake of it.

Really, surely loose lips sinks ships is covered in police training.

So how would the BBC know the polices business, phone hacking maybe.
Some one would have had to tell them.

If the BBC rings up and say we know you blah blah, surely the correct response is, we do not discuss police business with anyone, sorry and put the phone down .

They are basically saying what happened was because the BBC had them over a barrel and it was not how they would have done things otherwise.

There should be an official investigation in to how the BBC knows police business,
And how the police would let the BBC have influence over the investigation.

It's a mockery of a sham.

Cliff Richard and Jimmy Savile were both on an investigation into pornography, where they apparently visited sex clubs in London and Copenhagen set up by Lord Longford, who also campaigned for the release of Myra Hindley...

Out of interest, which biography?

ninfan - Member
I wonder what realistic chance the police saw that by raiding the flat they might find evidence involving a 29 year old crime committed?

Exactly my thoughts. The alleged 'crime' was carried out nearly thirty years ago in South Yorkshire, and they're looking for evidence a couple of hundred miles away, in a place the 'suspect' not only wasn't living in at the time, but wasn't even accommodation, but commercial premises.
There would be no computer files, probably no clothing or other likely forms of 'evidence' that could yield anything at all that could incriminate anyone after all this time.
Captain Ahab would be well proud of a fishing expedition on this scale.

+1 My thoughts entirely, and did you see how many police cars went along for the ride?

Were any lessons learned from Levison?

Main lesson is just how deeply intertwined politics and the media are: Andy Coulson being a prime example, but David Cameron is still strongly linked to the Murdoch Empire through the [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipping_Norton_set ]Chipping Norton Set[/url]

Given that level of collusion, can anyone genuinely doubt coverups have been perpetrated and still continue to this day?

So, the police explanation now is that a BBC journo phones them, saying they were aware of an ongoing police investigation into Cliff, and were ready to publish

The police 'bought' their silence on the issue by agreeing to give them the inside scoop on the search warrant - saying that was justified because publication would have endangered the evidence/investigation.

The police say the initial 'leak' (ie. that there was an investigation) was not from them.

In this what I find most preposterous is the suggestion that they had to buy the journo's silence - it seems to presuppose that the BBC would have gone ahead and published information that would endanger an investigation into child abuse despite being asked not to (GIven everything thats gone on, I find that hard to believe) and that the only way to deal with that was by, essentially, inviting them along, rather than the editorial process or even an injunction preventing publication.

can anyone genuinely doubt coverups have been perpetrated and still continue to this day?

I think everyone now accepts there's been some shocking cover-ups, no?

Media, police, politicians are all self-serving and as entwined in their own lies and deceit that they no longer know how to behave with any integrity or conscience.

They all seem to have made a closed doors pact of covering each other's arses. At least they can do one thing well.

Out of interest, which biography?

Edit: I've just to the chapter which discusses Savile's Jim'll Fix It trip to Israel and it says all that Begin-Sadat stuff he talked was total fantasy.

What amazes me is that these superannuated halfwits that somehow manage to attain Chief Constable rank should appear on TV and think we might believe a single word they say.

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28793654 ]Another Home Office connection to PIE[/url]

Just tried a search to see if Peter Righton was linked to Amsterdam and found this map, which really helps put the scale of things in perspective.

[url= https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=214293719839365458676.0004d498137303d55faca ]Bear in mind this is only what's been exposed so far...[/url]

Perennially casting aspersions on people by vaguely saying they're linked to stuff isn't going to cut it. You're linked to Jimmy Savile, the Queen and Puff the Magic Dragon (because you keep talking about them). Say specifically what you mean.

😆

Were any lessons learned from Levison?

Say specifically what you mean.

Sounds to me like you're coming up with some theories of your own Junky, good work, keep it up 😉

This piece eloquently weaves a few choice pieces of the gloomy tapestry together, but there's still a bigger picture to observe:

http://rt.com/op-edge/180616-british-home-secretary-child-abuse

From the link above...

As West German rock band Propaganda thundered out in the chorus of their 1985 hit, “Duel”: “The first cut won’t hurt at all. The second only makes you wonder. The third will have you on your knees. You start bleeding, I start screaming.” Lead singer Claudia Brücken heightens the slow pulverizing effect of government lies and media collusion made infamous by Hitler’s propaganda minister Josef Goebbels.

https://twitter.com/rightnow6music/status/501368410643902466

Is Mark Radcliffe implicated??

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt... 😉

I think you'll find that Mark Radcliffe is closely linked to Goebbels. MR was a leading figure in the shadowy Skrewdriver movement, which was a neo-Nazi political artistic cult, which was ideologically linked to Hitler, who was politically linked to Goebbels. Goebbels was the propaganda minister, Propaganda is the name of the band, the band's singles were music, music gets played on the radio by DJs, Mark Radcliffe is a DJ at the BBC. and you know who else was a DJ at the BBC? open your eyes, sheeple! all of this can be proved!!!

Nah mate, get a grip, you're talking guff

you're talking guff

How can you tell ?

Months of research... and badass spider senses 😉

Good humoured thread on all fronts

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Slowly but surely things are coming together...

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-08-19/charles-napier-to-be-charged-over-historial-abuse-claims/

Charles Napier links to Peter Righton...

Thankfully, Mark Radcliffe is still in the clear

Slowly but surely things are coming together...

....and completely undermining your conspiracy theory.

If there really was an establishment coverup of the Jimmy Savile/Frank Bruno/Yorkshire Ripper/Prince Charles/Israeli spoon-bending pedophile ring, then the last thing I would expect is people to be charged for alleged child abuse.

There doesn't appear to be enough conspiring.

I have no idea who Charles Napier is but presumably he's important enough to feature in your conspiracy theory.

Given mounting public awareness (and thus pressure), the establishment have to be seen to be doing something to avoid excessive suspicion; they reluctantly let a few of the small fry get swallowed by the system, keeping attention away from the larger network...

Of course, you'll think I'm a fruitloop whatever I say, but my badassery is intact 8)

To give an example of what I've suggested above (albeit in the USA), please take the time to watch this; a documentary which was produced by Yorkshire television in collaboration with Discovery Channel:

Conspiracy of Silence, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies.

At the last minute before airing, unknown congressmen threatened the TV Cable industry with restrictive legislation if this documentary was aired. Almost immediately, the rights to the documentary were purchased by unknown persons who ordered all copies destroyed.

A copy of this videotape was furnished anonymously to former Nebraska state senator and attorney John De Camp who made it available to retired FBI Agent Ted L. Gunderson.

Of course, if you're too lazy to spend an hour which may leave you in a state of disbelief and shock, you could just google:

[url= http://www.scribd.com/doc/97302292/Paul-Bonacci-Court-Transcripts-from-Larry-King-Lawsuit ]Paul Bonacci Larry King Lawsuit[/url]

please take the time to watch this.......

Of course, if you're too lazy to spend an hour which may leave you in a state of disbelief and shock, you could just google:

As a general rule I'm too lazy to do anything which involves using my eyes for an hour, especially if it might leave me in a state of disbelief and shock.

And I don't feel energetic enough to click on your link either.

Could you post a picture perhaps ? I enjoy your pictures and they require very little effort.

You already stole my thunder with that Bohemian Grove one earlier in the thread, you sneaky so & so 😳

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Pigface - Member
Mark E Smith has he punched you in the face Woppit

No, but his missus (Brix) really liked my band, which he was a bit "upset" about, apparently... 😆

Strange, Hello Kitty is trending on twitter...

kitty linked to litter, litter gets put in bins, yew tree is focusing on 80s celebs, Dusty Bin from 3-2-1 is a nonce, let's lynch him/her/it! they must be guilty, twitter said so, just like those two guys the internet said bombed the boston marathon.

Strange, Hello Kitty is trending on twitter...

Nope, you're going to have to add some more conjecture to that - how is the announcement of Hello Kitty's origins story relevant to Cliff Richard sexually abusing minors?

Is jivebunny trolling or finally certifiable?

Strange, Hello Kitty is trending on twitter...

No it's not.

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The ravages of time stole my thunder!! It was when I wrote it...

This isn't the basis of my post:

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Nor indeed are these, interesting though they may be:

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Could Cliff Richard have a nickname?

So hang on, your point is that famous people have a tendency to be at gatherings with other famous people? I still don't get what this has to do with the Hello Kitty story on Twitter.

There's a photo of me somewhere with Jimmy Savile, I assume this means that I've been buggering children without noticing it?

I'll take your word for it, this isn't a witchhunt, but when patterns emerge which beg further investigation, it'd be silly to pass them by for fear of ridicule.

A picture tells a thousand words; do your research...

You could start by googling

Cliff Richard Kitty
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2 years ago, would you have believed Jimmy Savile was a predatory paedophile and necrophiliac?[/b]

Well yes, of course I would. I started a thread about it years ago, and as I recall, was vigorously flamed by many members of this esteemed forum.

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/28963085 ]Hello Kitty is not actually a cat (BBC link)[/url]

More BBC conspiracy/cover-up to come I'd bet, turn's out Hello Kitty is actually a British school girl.