[Closed] Clever logo... (well I thought so anyway)

GrahamS - Member

> TJ has already explicitly said he doesn't own ANY branded products.

No I have not as you have repeatedly been told.

Right well this will be another one of those clarifications then TJ.
You previously said and I quote:

i don't own branded goods.

So can you clarify what that actually means please?

With a big pair of Bombers! PWNAGE!

you are quoting him out of context 😉
You did say it TJ but I think you probably meant it more as I dont buy goods for the brand. Nonetheless you did say it.

"any". thats the difference. That and other posts that clarified this ages ago. Immediately I posted that I was pulled up on it and clarified it and have done many times since.

So can you clarify what that actually means please?

getting close to the thousand chaps - keep it up. ~Does Logorrhoea mean too many logos?

i always liked this:

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TandemJeremy - Member
getting close to the thousand chaps - keep it up

Somewhere in Modland a finger is poised over the 'lock thread' button waiting for post 999 😆

Somewhere in Modland a finger is poised over the 'lock thread' button waiting for post 999

hilldodger - Member

TandemJeremy - Member
getting close to the thousand chaps - keep it up

Somewhere in Modland a finger is poised over the 'lock thread' button waiting for post 999

bastids!

you know you would if you had Mod-ship 😉

As we near the magic thousand I can detect a Waco kinda vibe I feel...

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I like this.

And I really like negative space used well in logos

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It was weird in that a friend of mine only just realised the Carrefour logo was a "C" whereas I've always seen it.

"any". thats the difference.

Silly me 🙄

Fair enough. By the same logic I don't own shoes or socks.

Any other [i]unusual[/i] uses of English you'd like to submit, possibly to explain the last lot of quotes where it sounds a lot like you claim you are completely immune to all branding, which you then later deny?

That and the dozen posts clarifying it one of which was not long before. And the context.

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For TJ......

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I reckon the band 'Kiss' must be one of the most successful brands globally.

Simple logo, easy to scrawl on walls and excercise books worldwide.

Hate their music but Gene Simmons is one hell of a businessman.

TJ

The red triangle was used on the beer pumps in the days when most folk were illiterate so they knew which one to ask for. easily recognisable, nothing more than that. the epitome of a good logo

Bass logo. excellent choice, such a good design that even the illiterate can recognise it.

hang on, isnt it only the 'arty farty' intelligentsia [i]who are into all this winky stuff[/i].... that it would mean anything to?

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Hasn't anyone got any examples of logos in foreign language, that you know immediately to be the brand?

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I was doing two things here espousing a veiwpoint and set of values that I hold and many of you have clearly never seen and poking the pretentious with s pointed stick

That is bolx.

Of course we've seen these values. What do you think we are, children? Many of us are very worldly wise.

Want I wont accept is that it has meaning beyond this that the whole world understands

Of course not - that's not what we are saying!

Logos and commercial design are obviously not pre-arranged coded messages.

It is a way of drawing upon associations in people's minds to ATTEMPT to promote certain emotions. They may or may not achieve this.

Pook.....genuine lol.

....and I really don't know why.

cruel man pook

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Molgrips - judging by the fact that so many folk deny its possible then I thought they had never seen it.

as for the extended meaning - thats precisely what was claimed that brought me into this.

hang on, isnt it only the 'arty farty' intelligentsia who are into all this winky stuff.... that it would mean anything to?

den - thats the "hidden meanings" in the font shapes and colours - not the simple meaning - red triangle = bass beer. people were claiming all sorts of hidden meanings in the colours, the shapes and the fonts used

How many posts left now for the tennnundred 🙂

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TandemJeremy - Member

people were claiming all sorts of hidden meanings in the colours, the shapes and the fonts used

I thought it was subconscious associations rather than hidden meanings.....

Pook's first image has just won teh interwebz!

That and the dozen posts clarifying it one of which was not long before. And the context.

Care to quote me those posts? I saw the one about the jacket, where you conceded you owned that, but it was a gift. That was it. Where are the other 11?

people were claiming all sorts of hidden meanings in the colours, the shapes and the fonts used

what, like an arrow above the N in garmin looks a bit like a north point?

FARRRRRRR OUT MAAAAAAAAAHNNNNNN 😆

mastiles_fanylion - Member

"Is it just me who sees all these logos as really winky?

all it needs to do is tell you what the company is."

But just *how* you do it can give a very different impression of the brand...

mastiles_fanylion - Member

Or of course we could look at stacking/weight combinations - the simple bold one suggests maybe you are in construction or engineering or something, the fine cut males you look like a hairdresser

Talking aboiut tandemjeremy in 5 different fonts

stumpy01 - Member

From M-F's original TandemJeremy selection:

1 - TJ owns a yacht and ponces around the marina a lot with a jumper hung over his shoulders

2 - TJ is a computer repair man

3 - TJ is a builder or sells rugged clothing to the construction industry

4 - TJ has a photograpy website & does 'bespoke artwork'

5 - TJ is a kid's entertainer or author of children's books.

Quite amazing actually what those different fonts convey!

TJ You are still ignoring the list of quotes Graham presented to you.

Charlie - no I answered it several times.

nearly there chaps -= don't let me down now.

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Really? That whole list was just all circumstantial and misinterpreted?

TJ You are still ignoring the list of quotes Graham presented to you.

Meh

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Loblocks

IwanteggsIwanteggsIwanteggs.

Who got it?

👿

Well done Don Eggs.

Buggers!

elfinsafety
'I learned a new word today',

'Teejayed: to be put in such a state of despair and anguish there seems to be no respite'

he got banned for that. seems a bit harsh

😆 (Don't forget the TJ 1,000 is still up for grabs as he doesn't count my posts 😉 ).

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Fred got banned for that?

Stasi-mod strikes again.....

TandemJeremy - Member

he got banned for that. seems a bit harsh

and it's all your fault you nasty man 😉

he did start a thread with it but come on. Not worth a banning.

he who walketh over thin ice......

I saw it, posted on another thread. I chuckled.

If that's a banning, I'm a monkeys uncle.

den - thats the "hidden meanings" in the font shapes and colours - not the simple meaning - red triangle = bass beer.

Ok, so that's what you see as an effective piece of branding - red triangle = bass beer. In a similar vein, you can appreciate the nike 'swoosh' or 'tick' - seeing it without the word 'Nike' alongside it, you know that that shape is referring to a Nike object, and you know that Nike make sports equipment, and have some knowledge about the worth/quality of that equipment. Again, effective branding, regardless as to whether you'd buy the product.

Oh hold on TJ,
I've just read from where Graham quoted this list

Branding means nothing at all to me. I buy based on what things are not on the branding
some of us see the object for what it is not for what it is branded as.

I buy for what things are not for what they are branded / marketed as.

some of us do this. we buy for what things are

there is another way of thinking and working that involves actively discounting the branding and looking beyond that at what it is

I am aware of the marketing techniques - I chose to ignore them.

i don't own branded goods.

marketing only works with the gullible

and asked how you that could be read as anything other than putting across the idea that you felt were impervious to the effects of marketing.

Actually, you haven't answered that point.

By they way, just saying 'yes I have' won't really cut it

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TandemJeremy - Member

he did start a thread with it but come on. Not worth a banning.

1997 Burton logo:

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Present day Burton logo:

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Simpler, and more impactful, but not as funny.

Charlie - you need to understand english then.

The meaning is very clear IMO even without the context. I see it but I am able to disregard it

actively discounting

I chose to ignore them.

I chose to ignore them.
[b]does not mean impervious[/b]

But yes, you are right it appears I do struggle with some of the English. What do you mean by [i]Actively Discount[/i]?

Are you saying that you disregard it but it does have an effect?

c'mon guys...

let's make this 2000...

yunki noooooooooooooooooooo

I don't have the stamina

Elfin got banned? Wondered why it was so much more fun today.

TandemJeremy - Member

he did start a thread with it but come on. Not worth a banning.

I chose to ignore them.

does not mean impervious

I chose to ignore them.
[b]does not mean impervious[/b]

Are you saying that you disregard it but it does have an effect?

Further to my previous post: I don't know if someone's posted this before, and I'm not going to check. I've chuckled at this a few times in the past. I just checked again, and it's still funny.

Clue's in the link, so don't get all puritanical at me if you don't like it:

[url= http://www.b3ta.com/features/phalliclogoawards/ ]http://www.b3ta.com/features/phalliclogoawards/[/url]

I have no interest in all this designy/marketingy shit

however, on the subject of bannings, how do people know that someone gets a ban - did fred email you or is there a list somewhere ?

If there isn't a list somewhere, can we have one ? 😀

great link ned

fred emailed me.

how do people know that someone gets a ban

TJ

"I chose to ignore them."
does not mean impervious

Are you saying that you disregard it but it does have an effect?

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Charlie - it means I am aware of the effects and chose to ignore them or intentionally allow for the effects to ensure I make a choice free from bias

Actually given how you have trouble being understood, it would be better if you just answered the questions.

See, 'intentionally allowing for the effects' is unclear to me. Maybe an example would help

it means they have no effect doesn't it?

Are you saying that you disregard it but it does have an effect?

questions answered

but means they have no effect doesn't it?
no

But surely ignoring something involves behaving as if it isn't there. That kinda means it has no effect. If it had an effect you wouldn't have been ignoring would you?

By ignoring you can't make a fully informed decision, can you TJ?
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See the thing i'm struggling with is that you say you are able to disregard it, I figure this means that you actually do disregard it, otherwise the statement is meaningless.

so when you answer the compound question

Are you saying that you disregard it but it does have an effect?

But then with regard to ignoring the marketing, When I ask if ignoring it means it has no effect you also so 'No' which means that it does have an effect.

you can see how this might cause some confusion, for in the one post you have given 2 seemingly contradictory answers

Are you saying that you disregard it but it does have an effect?

No - I am not saying that I disregard it but it does have an effect.

next question

Charlie - it means I am aware of the effects and chose to ignore them or intentionally allow for the effects to ensure I make a choice free from bias

but means they have no effect doesn't it?
no

Well played Charlie I do believe you just got TJ to either admit that it does have an effect on him (and is therefore useful and valuable). OR possibly that it doesn't have an effect on him because he is impervious.

I'm not entirely sure which, but either way it means he is wrong 😀