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I still want an egg, coz that's all I can afford. 🙁


 
Posted : 19/07/2011 10:49 pm
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sturmey - no you did not - apparently you bought it because of the branding. None of us apparently have any free will


 
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M6TTF - afraid not old son. I buy for what things are not for what they are branded / marketed as. the object is not the referent

How do you come to know of them? If you want to buy a fizzy drink, do you read FizzyDrinkWorld or do you read the label of every fizzy drink or pick up one which is familiar?


 
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you read the label of every fizzy drink or pick up one which is familiar?

perhaps he has tasted a variety and chooses one that tastes nice...it sounds a radical approach but hey who knows


 
Posted : 19/07/2011 10:55 pm
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I buy the fizzy drink that has the flavour i want at that time - it varies greatly which one I buy

I buy it for what it is. Do I want caffeinated or not? Orange or mango flavour. whats the price?

This is clearly a very difficult concept for some of you to understand. some of us do this. we buy for what things [i]are [/i]


 
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TJ- come on, you're verging on the hysterical now, bro!

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I buy the fizzy drink that has the flavour i want at that time - it varies greatly which one I buy

But how do you know which one has the flavour you want?

You buy things for what they are, but how do you know what they are until you try them (or read a review)?


 
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sturmey - no you did not - apparently you bought it because of the branding. None of us apparently have any free will
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And this is the B&W world according to Tandem, gotta love it.
Erm, no, Um, I need a drink, but which one, Um bongo!! Which tropical drink could I have to go with the eggs?


 
Posted : 19/07/2011 10:58 pm
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M6TTF - afraid not old son. I buy for what things are not for what they are branded / marketed as. the object is not the referent

I can confidently say at some level branding has influenced your decision, unless you are data from star trek. You just don't realise it.


 
Posted : 19/07/2011 10:59 pm
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taste buds ?

how do you know what they are until you try them

you dont
And this is the B&W world according to Tandem, gotta love it.

there are plenty of folk giving the opposite view but you dont seem to be accusing them of this b & w view


 
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Posted : 19/07/2011 11:03 pm
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taste buds ?

Market researchers define that the product will keep a certain level of the market happy.
Marketing will work to ensure that you keep coming back, depending on the product, of course.


 
Posted : 19/07/2011 11:03 pm
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Teej, my last post was to alleviate the boredom.


 
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I assume taste buds, is the response to me. But on that basis you would never try any thing new. My point is how do you decide whether or not to try a new product, or which of a range of new items to try?

TJ you admit yourself that you came here becomes someone recommended it to you. You got marketted. Someone credible made recommendation.


 
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This thread is making me thirsty.


 
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how do you know what they are until you try them

you dont

Exactly! so what makes you want to try them?


 
Posted : 19/07/2011 11:06 pm
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advice from a mate is not marketing it is a genuine unpaid for opinion. you may as well call a review marketing rather than an opinion.
I dont drink fizzy drinks so nothing actually but hypothetically
Flavour - is it a fruit /flavour I like?

Price will I pay it?
pretty much it I assume.


 
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It clearly is a bit hard for you to understand M6TTF.

On the soft drinks. Mostly they say on them what they are but anyway over the years I have tried most available, I know which ones I like and which ones I don't.

so - I go into the shop and think - thirsty I'll have a drink and I buy the one that I feel like drinking based on what it is.

Really - you are so wrapped up in the idea that branding works with everyone all teh time and is all pervasive that you seem unable to understand that there is another way of thinking and working that involves actively discounting the branding and looking beyond that at what it is.


 
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COOL! My own bill of rights 😀 Cheers Junkyard! That's now my desktop


 
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there are plenty of folk giving the opposite view but you dont seem to be accusing them of this b & w view

I think I've said that already.


 
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advice from a mate is not marketing it is a genuine unpaid for opinion.

No, but it demonstrates that when TJ hears a recommendation from someone credible, he acts upon it. That's how some folks do their marketing.

Other folks might even call what happened to TJ 'Word of Mouth' that's another marketing strategy.


 
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toys - sound. I wondered if the re was a point I missed

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I assume taste buds, is the response to me. But on that basis you would never try any thing new. My point is how do you decide whether or not to try a new product, or which of a range of new items to try?

simple - I try new things when I see them if I am in the mood.

TJ you admit yourself that you came here becomes someone recommended it to you. You got marketted. Someone credible made recommendation.

that is so weak - that is not marketing

You sound like Mr "everything comes from India"


 
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On the soft drinks. Mostly they say on them what they are but anyway over the years I have tried most available

And others you haven't, was this discrimination based on their contents? Did you read the ingredients of them all?

so - I go into the shop and think - thirsty I'll have a drink and I buy the one that I feel like drinking based on what it is.

Like a cool refreshing drink? or perhaps a totally tropical taste?


Really - you are so wrapped up in the idea that branding works with everyone all teh time and is all pervasive that you seem unable to understand that there is another way of thinking and working that involves actively discounting the branding and looking beyond that at what it is

No


 
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simple - I try new things when I see them if I am in the mood.

Yes, but which of the new items do you try? The cool refreshing lemon drink or the one with the totally tropical taste?

TJ you admit yourself that you came here becomes someone recommended it to you. You got marketted. Someone credible made recommendation.
that is so weak - that is not marketing

and that is not an argument. But it does demonstrate why you think you are immune to it.


 
Posted : 19/07/2011 11:13 pm
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Other folks might even call what happened to TJ 'Word of Mouth' that's another marketing strategy

it is not marketing it is something that actually happens that marketing may try and exploit.
Anyway I accept marketing has an effect it is that logos per se work that I have an issue with. You may wish to call this marketing , with some justification to be fair, but a logo alone will achieve very little.
You seem to have git so sucked into arguing with TJ that you are about to suggest that taste has no bearing on what someone will choose to drink and it is all down to marketing.
You are welcome Binners


 
Posted : 19/07/2011 11:14 pm
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We had this brand discussion a while back, at least tj is consistent in his opinion tho I still think we are all affected by branding and marketing. It must be quite time consuming and a bit of a pain to try and discount all brand/marketing and see beyond it in every aspect of your life.


 
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it is not marketing it is something that actually happens that marketing may try and exploit.

so, these Viral campaigns? marketing or not?


 
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Time for a sharp exit?
Time for a cool sharp Harp.

(remember the one where the dog chased the ball out the the window? 😆 )


 
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Sorry - a friend recommending me something is not marketing by any definition that makes any sense to any logical being.

Really - you are grasping at straws now. Thats just laughable. Personal recomendation is marketing Pfftpt.

just accept that for some of us what something is is far more important that what is is branded as and the we understand the difference


 
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Sorry - a friend recommending me something is not marketing by any definition that makes any sense to any logical being.

you haven't thought about that


 
Posted : 19/07/2011 11:20 pm
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just adept that for some of us what something is is far more important that what is is branded as and the we understand the difference

Can do, as long as you accept that branding contributes to many [lesser, if you like] people's decisions.

And that you can't speak for your subconscious


 
Posted : 19/07/2011 11:20 pm
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so, these Viral campaigns? marketing or not?

marketing I assume. your view?


 
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just adept that for some of us what something is is far more important that what is is branded as and the we understand the difference

just accept that you are the victim of marketing, the same as the rest of us, just less aware of it.


 
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How can a friends recommendation be marketing? -its a ridiculous proposition to suggest it is


 
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so, these Viral campaigns? marketing or not?

[b]marketing I assume. your view?[/b]


Yes marketing, and distributed by word of mouth.


 
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