[Closed] Clarkson 'n-word' furore!

You want world news to sod off?

Reminds me of this:

Oh ffs. I can't stand the man, but World News? Sod off!

It appears to be in UK news now. You're probably just being upset about a disinterested, low paid journo choosing the wrong option from a drop down menu.

[i]You want world news to sod off?[/i]

Yes! All of it. And the Daily Bloody Mirror.
"Warning: This video contains offensive language" Offensive to who? jeez.

[i]low paid journo choosing the wrong option from a drop down menu[/i]
What? At the start of the video? OK, duh.

Nope. Can't hear anything even slightly resembling "****" in that.

The newspaper said it hired a team of ‘audio forensic experts’ to analyse the clip and they confirmed the n-word was used.

They just happen to have some spare time after they gave up their first hobby of listening to people voice mails.

Anyway slip of the tongue? NSFW Audio

Well I listened, it's a bit mumbly but it could be the n word, or not..

slip of the tongue?

It's a very well pronounced C so I think not. I like the chuckling in the background.

It has me in stiches, too.

I hope the paper didn't pay the team of experts! (Unless they were relatives etc)

Well I listened, it's a bit mumbly...

Maybe he was auditioning for the next season of Jamaica Inn.

[i]Nope. Can't hear anything even slightly resembling "****" in that.[/i]

I can, but so what? He's not calling someone a ****, he's reciting a traditional rhyme.
Ooh, look [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eeny,_meeny,_miny,_moe ]wikipedia's[/url] racist - they put the rhyme on their site!

I suspect many of his fans wish they could do the same.
His core audience appears to be made up of 'PC gawn maaaad' Little England types.

I doubt they'll be bothered that much.

Well I listened, it's a bit mumbly but it could be the n word, or not..

Do you ring up daytime TV surveys to register a "don't know" vote ?

😉

I suspect many of his fans wish they could do the same.

Oh we do, WE DO!

In fact, I'm going to do it....N[b][OPE!-MODS][/b]

His core audience appears to be made up of 'PC gawn maaaad' little England types.

Any evidence of that?

It could be worse, it could be that irritating little tit Hammond, or Captain Nobsok...
Im struggling to GAF tbh..

In fact, I'm going to do it....N[OPE!-MODS]

Don't be scared. I did it. Nothing happened.

FFS they will be changing history and renaming Guy Gibson's dog in the dambusters film next.....

oops....look like they already have

Well, I guess if he did say it, it was probably just a joke, y'know, like on Top Gear.

Funny but that is probably the only word that has the power to shock me.
Actually no. Thinking about it there are quite a few other racist terms that get my hackles up.

Let's hope the bbc and all other media don't sack this pompus tit.
We would all miss the anti cycling, tory bullshit that he sweetly spouts.
Psa to cyclists: if you see him walking the street head in his direction and crash into him.

[i]Funny but that is probably the only word that has the power to shock me.[/i]

Even in that context?

Who GAF? That's the rhyme as I've always known it and he deliberately mumbles through the word in a manner that shows he's a little embarrassed by it anyway. It doesn't mean anything in that context, he's certainly not used it in reference to an individual.

How does saying qualify him as racist?

Isn't the Metro from the same people that bring you the D***y M**l? The company that has a vendetta against the BBC and will do pretty much anything to get sales/hits. Says it all if so . . . . . .

DezB - Member
Funny but that is probably the only word that has the power to shock me.

Even in that context?

Surprisingly yes.

Sold something on ebay to a character with the user name 'noisy ni**er', don't quite know what to expect when he comes round to collect the item, but it is still one of the few words with the power to shock.

Ah, The Daily Mirror. Wasn't it once a great, liberal, campaigning newspaper?

As with most things, we can probably blame it on Piers. Anyone wondering if the ex-editor is still on good terms with some of the newsdesk following his little Twitter spat with Clarkson?

Top Gear office will be an interesting place as they try to work out which disaffected grunt passed that one on.

I didn't even know that the rhyme originally had the n-word in it, when I was at school it was 'kipper'. Which thinking about it was a bit odd, given a kipper's lack of toes (and lack of squealing). Made sense at the time, though...

Regardless, Clarkson's a dick.

I don't find what he said offensive, I'm old enough to remember it as a kid, but he's no doubt said it to get press, and as ever, it's worked.

I don't find what he said offensive,

That could be because he didn't say anything offensive.

Regardless, Clarkson's a dick.

Yeah, but occasionally he's a hilarious dick. Sometimes, unintentionally. Which makes it even funnier...

[i]Surprisingly yes.[/i]

🙄 not a child of the 70s then?

a word in isolation is very hard to be offended by, it's use out of context even harder. The intent is what should be used in cases where somebody does say something. Taking the number of times the word is used in music it's clear it's not the word but either who says it or what they are saying.

Considering the example above where live on Radio 4 a government minister was called a see you next tuesday.

I remember all the casual racism we had as a kid as well, we ought to bring that back, good on Clarkson for promoting casual racism 🙄

Didn't see that, to be honest. Did I watch the wrong video?

DezB - Member
Surprisingly yes.

not a child of the 70s then?

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Very much so. I certainly used the P Shop phrase until I moved away from my white middle class bit of England and went Uni in London. Multi cultural Britain was an eye opener.
Having a black girlfriend and hearing just in earshot people in pubs you've been going to for years using the N word may have focused my dislike of the word.

that fact that clarckson swapped the word out for teacher, the kind of wet lefty bicycle riding gurdianista he hates, shows that he knew it was offensive the first time he said it

im not sure if its arrogance or old age or both but he does seem to living up to his stereotype (this, + the bridge joke, + tweeting about the cyclist in kensington etc)

fwiw I always knew its as 'catch a nipper by the toe' when we grew up, never heard anyone say it otherwise and Id say that my family and friends were in no way PC or not prone to casual racism themselves

but he's no doubt said it to get press, and as ever, it's worked.

In a bit of footage that was filmed some time in 2012 and was never broadcast.

Yeah, I'm sure he was just playing the long game 🙄

Woppit, we all know the historical context of the word.

Are you just shouting in the playground or do you actually have a point to make?

Presumably, you didn't watch the entire clip.

So your point is?

It's not mine, it's James Baldwin's.

So what's James Baldwin's point then?

Do you agree with him?

Clearly says tiger.

he can say whatever he likes as far as i'm concerned, after all we live in a country where freedom of speech is valued. If we all spoke the way guardians of our society wanted us to we'd never know you the idiots were.

He was talking about folk from Nigg, right?

Watched the clip - he pretty clearly says it - not that I needed any further evidence of what a bell-end he is.

Worlds going mad

Finally, some Blazing Saddles.

topgear summed up perfectly:

erm... it wasn't actually used in the show was it?

Anyway, I'm a child of the 50s and 60s and when I grew up the poem was "catch a **** by the toe". I'll probably now go to hell for typing out the word in full. It meant nothing to us. The only black faces we were familiar with were coal miners on their way home.

Probably not a rhyme for the 21st century though.

Probably not a rhyme for the 21st century though.

No probs with it for the 20th though.

I dare say at some point in the future it will be frowned upon to label all scousers as car thieves or Yorkshiremen as tight fisted.

I always thought the slow bit referred to cycling

Is Stuart Lee supposed to be funny?

http://twitpic.com/e2mc8b

I don't believe him.

Is Stuart Lee supposed to be funny?

He's ****ing hilarious - but probably not if you worship at the Church of Clarkson, May and Hammond (he's not even a real hamster, y'know?); also know as The Church of Latter Day ****s.

I don't believe him.

It does have the ring of a story that might be told at A&E "I was making some salad, naked, and while carrying the cucumber from the fridge I slipped on a lettuce leaf...."

...fell into the under stairs cupboard, ended up up with my cock in the hoover and three cucumbers up my arse.

Ah so he has apologised
I actually used the word I was trying to avoid using

I did everything in my power to not use that word .....and still he failed ...poor lamb

So he is either a racist and a liar or a really shit presenter.......Its going to be tough working out which of these is true

Yeah, but occasionally he's a hilarious dick. Sometimes, unintentionally. Which makes it even funnier...

Nope.

Is Stuart Lee supposed to be funny?

Yup.

The Ron Atkinson defence.

It's political correctness gone mad, l tell you

You can even scrawl racial abuse, in crap, on someone's car anymore 🙄

I'd love Stewart Lee to do STW

Now. I am not a fan of Mr Clarkson, but I do find some bits of Top Gear entertaining, as well as his appearance on HIGNFY.

However, I also like Stewart Lee and have seen him live several times.

Can someone tell me what I should be feeling, please.

Can someone tell me what I should be feeling, please.

You should recognise that Clarkson does what he does and says what he says because it is all part of a highly lucrative act.

I hate Clarkson but not because he is unpc, I'm fairly unpc myself, I hate him cause he's a ****.

I like Stewart Lee. And agree with all his comments concerning Clarkson's offensive bigotry.

EDIT: Ernies reply is better and I agree

You should recognise Stewart Lee isn't funny and that Jeremy Clarkson upsets a few people on here and they love to mention it whenever they can.

It's not an act.
His genius is convincing those he genuinely despises that it is.

Drac, yes, I do mention it frequently.
Less frequently than some mention they despise football, but frequently nontheless.

But then again, he does keep doing very dubious things, which people like to start threads about.

If he stops being an offensive, dangerous, small minded idiot, I'll stop calling him one.
I'm sure, like some of our fellow posters, he revels in his notoriety.

You [i]know[/i] how you should feel Jimmers. We don't need to tell you.

hes also friends, with brooks/cameron/coulson/murdoch etc

thats enough for me

Hang on a sec. Rusty Doesn't like Jezza?

Why am I only finding this out now?

Furore?
"World news"?

It's Clarkson. Accept or ignore...

I'm not sure Lee has hit the heights of his Top Gear sketch that often, but he is excellent. It's a sophisticated humour - full of nuance where you're laughing hysterically at the object of his scorn and then he turns it on you. I suppose it goes over some folks' heads. And for them, there's always Clarkson's brand of humour.

It's Clarkson. Accept or ignore...

Worse than that it's Daily Mail Vs Clarkson.

I suppose it goes over some folks' heads.

Or they don't find him funny.

If Clarkson annoys so many on here, he gets my vote.

Or they don't find him funny.

Indeed. It would be boring if we all laughed at the same things. So they can go for something simpler, like Clarkson, Lee Mack or Michael McIntyre. There's something for everyone these days.

is it the end for him though?

hes made an about face and done a impressively grovelling apology

similar comments from other dinosaurs like ron atkinson, andy gray etc have sounded the death knell of their careers

I suspect the money top gear makes for the bbc will keep him safe for a while longer

ndeed. It would be boring if we all laughed at the same things. So they can go for something simpler, like Clarkson, Lee Mack or Michael McIntyre. There's something for everyone these days.

Precisely.