[Closed] Civic Type R Mugen 200

Very quick. Proper point and shoot driving. And I wouldn't EVER want to do a long distance in one!

I've had two CTR's and am now on my 2nd S2000, that Mugen has got to be worth a test drive

I had a CR125 with Mugen bits on it back in the day...

Bet you haven't got kids, have you? 😕

What's an NHB GT?

fadda - it's not that core... 🙂

its definitely more pointy than my 2007 ctr gt though 🙂

no kids - ctr nhb gt getting px'd.

what are you px'ing it for?

my ctr is being px's for the mugen 😛

Looks menacing, NA all the way 😀

menacing - thanks 🙂

Meh, better spending the cash on a DC5

dc5 don't come with 0 miles on the clock though, otherwise i'd have one in a SHOT 🙂

Used to have the sticker on my EG6

lol @ b77 🙂

ITS A CIVIC

I would love to join in this thread, but I don't understand any of the acronyms.

It might only be a Civic, but my mate had a Integra Type R, similar-ish thing, 1.8L around 200bhp, it's "only" an Integra but the way it goes and how it sounds when revved up to almost 9k RPM is just fantastic.

Can You see anything out the back with that huge spoiler? Not much of a "stealth bomber" this thing 😉

vtec will need the nuts revving off it for enjoyment. But thats all part of the fun 😈

NHB - night hawk black
GT - GT!
CTR - civic type r
NA - normally aspirated

That looks pretty neat - I do love the JDM white. The spoiler WILL make reversing a tad tricky though!

Awaits that "vtec just kicked in, yo" picture.... 😉

DrP

Ex CTR owner, PX'd for an octavia when little DrP came along!

Used to have one of the 160bhp Civic VTi's back in the early 90's - great car. Considering either a S2000, a Type R or even a Boxster currently - could be my mid-life crisis kicking in!

I've also got several quicker Hondas already but they've got 2 wheels.

Would have loved that 10am years ago. Now I just can't be arsed to thrash the crap out if cars to get the best from them. Looks a bit OTT but a very capable machine.

Will look great in the trail centre car parks.

I'd buy a nice R26.R. It'd run rings around the Civic.

Until it broke down...

Thoughts? You're a boy racer chav that belongs on another forum. Just sums up how predictably disappointing some mountain bike 'cyclists' can be.
Your fellow car 'enthusiasts' are the type that run you off the road and whack you on the back with a rolled up newspaper, which is just so funny....

That it's a Honda! I've worked for them.... no thanks.

aye, but the honda build would run rings around the renault wouldnt it?

not going to get kids into the R26 though. unless they come along in another car,then you can let them inside the R26 and let them play on the climbing frame in the back!

a boy racer chav? i dont know any that can afford 39k? cars.

I take it this is the £24K version, rather than the £38K version?

OMG is TLR low rent?

Honda fan 🙂

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you'll never see the skips with that spoiler on it

S2000? It's not like the Mugen has any rear seats!

I'd have another type r in an instant,
had to sell mine off when my twin boys "showed up"
*sigh* bless em.
But the mugen type r, mmm mmm!

The current Civic in Championship white looks like a cyclon from Battle star Gallactica, wearing a Klu Klux Klan outfit. Cant wait to see one with a chrome effect wrap. 🙁

spanner for the works didn't topgear test the mk1 against the mk2, and mk 1 was better as suprior suspension system,and alot lighter

the cylons also had torsion beam rear ends, which is why they used to wear skirts

[b]@Travellingman[/b]

Are you being funny? If not, you're the sort of beardy, Ronhill wearing, tight sphinctered broccoli muncher cycling and its image doesn't need. You get ****ts on both sides of the argument, there is no moral high ground; we just need to respect each others passions.

If you are being funny, then yes, a Honda is a chavs car 🙂

[b]@TLR[/b]

I'd be inclined to agree with the Megane comments above; I really like the mid range grunt of the R26 and its turbo. I drove one back to back with a Clio 200, and although only 30hp separates them, the 'shove' of the Megane coming off roundabouts put a much bigger smile on my face and seemed to build pace sooo much quicker.

The LSD in the R26 was awesome though and I bet you'll love the Mugan for that alone 🙂

thoughts ?

You're insane. £38k would get you any number of daft cars - a recent M3 for a start. Or an S2000 and a GTI/Subaru/Evo. Or a Caterham and a quick 4 seater.

Just can't see where the value is in that Honda.

Isn't it yet another willy comparison subject? Should I buy this useless or that moronic toy? Surely there are 'I drive a hot GT SPD TD VTTI xYZ' fora where people need wheel lifts off a roundabout?

'benkitcher'- yes, being funny or at least trying! I'm currently sporting stubble and I do believe I've got a pair of Ronhills in a draw somewhere, does that count?!

A white Honda!? It's a production run chavmobile. Is the OP kidding? We've got a fleet of Hondas at work and they're the most unreliable, badly designed garbage I've ever had the misfortune to drive. Honda make great motorcycles as do Suzuki but their cars leave a lot to be desired.

Not that I'm particularly into cars but a white GT3 or any colour you like for that matter.. Now, that's a different story.

Its a complete chav mobile and it looks terrible. However, its got a touch more power(?), an LSD and that VTEC engine. I like. Don't see you ever getting a return on it for that money though.
Personally I just want an older 'Teg type-R.

Chuff me £38k for a bog standard car with big engine and stiff springs ?!!?

I too had read that the new Civic is not a patch on the old one.

IMO if your after a sports car thats fun to drive you have to go rwd everytime, a slow rwd sports car will be much more fun than any high powered fwd car...

as jwt / xcstu say - you're referring to the M200, but the pic was of the M20.

One is just a tarted-up Championship White CTR, the other is a fully stripped down and rebuilt car with lots of pricey bits.

Given that CTR values seem to have collapsed (lots of cheap lease deals ending, lukewarm reviews, newer shinier hot hatches have come along - lots of people struggling to sell) I'd say you'd be barking to throw £15k or on upgrading to a slightly better version of what you already have. Let alone the insanity of spending £38k on an even hotter version.

IMO if your after a sports car thats fun to drive you have to go rwd everytime, a slow rwd sports car will be much more fun than any high powered fwd car...

I got in trouble for suggesting the same but have to agree.

mk3 MR2 or any MX5 = HUGE fun
Or any Elise.
Or any Westfield/Caterham

If you have that sort of money to waste, got to be a Scirocco R !!!

Or any Westfield/Caterham

I had an S2000 (which I stacked in the rain) but it was flipping great.

Recently bought a Westfield SE and it's awesome. You get a huge amount of fun/power for not a lot of cash. I have a 135bhp engine which is plenty fast enough to put a smile on most people's facces although £8k will get you into motorbike engined ones like the Megablade.

It just feels great to drive, really exhilerating and if you've got the money and inclination; keeping something like that and buying something more sensible is a great idea.

Check out the MEV Rocket as well; basically a ford focus...

I hope you enjoy it. Nothing brings out the "not like that, like this" experts like a good car thread.

Mintman - I plan to get one at some stage. Soooo much fun! An SEight would be rather fun but would probably kill me. Sounds like "car engined" versions are generally the best bet unless doing loads of track driving.

Yours sounds a lot of fun!

Slightly back on topic, a mate of a mate has put a supercharged CTR engine into a mk1 Elise - that's rather nippy.

I'm tempted by the likes of a Caterham but that'd have to be in additional to a normal car. I'm seriously considering a 2nd hand S2000 though - looks like £12.5-£15K gets a decent one.

Got rid of my CTR-GT 3 months ago. Enjoyed driving it for the last 3 years/55,000 miles. It was fine over any distance and could fit 3 bikes plus kit in the back with the seats down. Great reliability and build quality. I'm definitely a Honda fan.

The only thing I don't like about the Mugen is the looks (and fuel economy will be shocking).

Do you think in a parallel universe there is a car forum where members obsess about mountain bikes?

Do you think in a parallel universe there is a car forum where members obsess about mountain bikes?

There are fairly regular threads about mountain bikes on the forum of a owner's club I visit...

My wife has an 07 Type R. Its a proper 4 seater hatchback in terms of size and we actually put both our bikes in the back, no problems. I recently drove it back from North Wales - cross country route and really enjoyed it.

My previous cars of note were a Caterham 7 (I used to race them) and a Lotus Elise. I was impressed with the Honda - everything just works well and has that quality feel about it. It was a comfortable ride and you could really bung it into the corners.

It kind of fits both worlds quite well - fast and fun, practical too.

Mine is nothing too flash, its the crossflow engine which, by today's standards, is small and low tech. Given you don't really get anything less powerful its still good for 0-60 in 5.5sec and 120lbft torque. A Honda Fireblade engine will see 60 in 3.2sec so significantly faster. If you like working the gearbox to keep the engine in its power band then the bike engined ones are probably great. Otherwise car engine all the way. The stock Zetec engines are a popular option up from the crossflow; uber cheap and easy (ish) to fit.

The SEights sounds great but you're right; i reckon i'd go the way of the Dodo if I bought one too...

I'm seriously considering a 2nd hand S2000 though - looks like £12.5-£15K gets a decent one.

I paid £16k for a Honda approved S2000 a few years ago and it was in great condition. At the time that money wouldn't get a glass back window and multispoke wheels but then I didn't really care. You'll probbaly do a bit better now though.

Mint - I think a 2.0 litre Ford unit would be plenty TBH.

Our BM needs no work to go at fairly silly speeds so would be happy to have a car that requires prodding with a big stick to get the most out of!

'Travellingman' - Haha good job. Still, sorry about the rant though, I might have been in a bad mood last night...

it cracked me up the new Type R had only 1 more BHP than the old one, wtf was that all about??

Mint - I think a 2.0 litre Ford unit would be plenty TBH.

Current Fords are a world away from the Crossflow. A really good 2 litre duratec can make 280 brake 😯

DrP - Member

Awaits that "vtec just kicked in, yo" picture....

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it cracked me up the new Type R had only 1 more BHP than the old one, wtf was that all about??

They did something similar between the MK5 and MK6 Golf GTI, I think they reckon 200-odd bhp is about right in a hot hatch. If they put much more power in then the engineering becomes more expensive and complicated.

Do you think in a parallel universe there is a car forum where members obsess about mountain bikes?

It's all going fast on wheels innit?! Before I could drive I rode bikes, then I got into driving cars as opposed to only being allowed to read about them or be a passenger, and then more recently the annoyances of congestion, speed cameras and the sheer cost have sent me back towards (push)bikes.

I came back from Le Mans this year in an S2000 and it confirmed everything I'd suspected about it - manic engine, fantastic gearbox, tons of character once it's moving (that engine note!) and more roadholding than I expected - the benefits of relatively low weight, low CoG and excellent weight distribution. More surprising was how comfortable it was, especially being able to have a conversation at quick motorway speeds with the roof down. In the subsequent days I got quite involved in searching AutoTrader for one before my sensible side kicked in and reminded me that riding singletrack fast is a much cheaper, equally fun and less frustrating (damned traffic!) pastime.

Honda vtec engines are a bit like hope hubs, you either love the sound or hate it, personally I think they sound like they are about to explode. I've driven a few of them, s2000, accord, and integra type r's and they are absolutely useless unless you are in the power band which is way up the rev range.

Not for me I'm afraid but each to thier own, if you want to look like a boy racer chav get one!

Why not wait and year and buy one 2nd hand for about half the price?