Ugh I'm really disappointed in him. Flitting between unrestricted budget to unrestricted budget . We better win it whilst we can . In Arsene we trust
City will dominate for some time now. Big budget and his ability to attract good players will prove too much for the rest.
Does this mean we're not the most hated club in Manchester?
To be fair, I suppose being utterly shite has helped us out on that score as well though
be interesting to see him in a more "competitive" league, with all due respect to athletico & dortmund la liga is a 2 team league and germany a 1 team league.... and some of the teams that make up the numbers are just canon fodder.
Yet another top manager whose reputation will be in pieces 2 years from now.
Jose to United and Simeone or Allegri to chelski now would make for an interesting clash of the managers.
I personally still hate United more than City. you did ask
hes a carrot to attract a big name?
Does this mean we're not the most hated club in Manchester?
No. Sorry.
Does this mean we're not the most hated club in Manchester?
No. Sorry.
The wonderful "regressive" world of football - how to transfer money from the masses to the elite in easy steps...
be interesting to see him in a more "competitive" league, with all due respect to athletico & dortmund la liga is a 2 team league and germany a 1 team league.... and some of the teams that make up the numbers are just canon fodder.
Jesus wept....
Jesus wept....
well actually he laughed 😉
Mourinho told BT Sport: ‘I laugh when people compare a few numbers from a few different leagues and I can laugh because I have been in all of these leagues.‘But when you see a 6-0 or a 7-0 in Italy or in Spain the people really know the difference between the top teams and the bottom teams.
The wonderful "regressive" world of football - how to transfer money from the masses to the elite in easy steps...
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As one United fan tweeted (source BBC)
"City get Pep and we get a cure for insomnia"
Jose isn't going to Man U, in fact Pelligirini might go there ?
Pep's test will be whether he can win the Champions League. Arsenal aren't going to get a better shot at the PL than this year.
Well he managed the second biggest club in Spain so I guess the step down to the second biggest club in Manchester shows he's not really up for a real challenge just winding down to retirement. 🙂
A text to the BBC Sport page
The overwhelming feeling is one of City on the way up and Utd taking over from Liverpool as the Norma Desmond of the Prem. I hope Pep to City is the catalyst to Utd having a massive overhaul of manager, players, scouting, recruitment, facilities and youth team. However, I'm not so biased that I can't be excited to see what Pep in the Prem will bring, I just hope Utd can keep up
As it stands and unless Man U can do something massive they won't be in the Champions League next year, same with Liverpool & Chelsea so factor in no CL football and managerial uncertainty who'd be on their way to old trafford over City/Arsenal/Leicester.
No business in the window while out of the top 4 says LVG is on borrowed time so time for a new guy, a new system and less chance of getting the top players.
Perhaps this ad could start making a come back
Anyway this all from the view down in 18th
Makes you wonder how good city could be if they had a tactical genius AND all that buying power. Imagine if Clough or Paisley had that job. Could Pep get Villa out of trouble on a shoestring. Doubt it.
While I don't doubt his talent as a manager, it's not really a challenge is it?
Here you go Pep. Have one of the most expensive squads in the world, you also have £150m to spend plus as a bonus you already have Sergio Aguero.
Imagine if Clough in Abu Dhabi telling the boss he just spent 150 million on't lad from barnsley
I 😯 when I heard the news. Go City 🙂
What the **** is going on at United? People complain about megabuck City, how much did United throw at their squad recently?
Rather than be jealous be envious and partly proud as its Manchester folks. You don't see him going anywhere in Britain.
Does this mean we're not the most hated club in Manchester?
To be fair, I suppose being utterly shite has helped us out on that score as well though
The fact that you describe being 5th in the table with a positive goal difference as "utterly shite" still makes you the most hated club in Manchester for me.
Don't think he's as good as made out to be. Barca and bayern were already way ahead of the competition when he took over. He's no Ferguson and he'll probably get a shock as to how much more competitive the premier league is.
Who do you support loddrik? Villa?
Don't think he's as good as made out to be. Barca and bayern were already way ahead of the competition when he took over. He's no Ferguson and he'll probably get a shock as to how much more competitive the premier league is.
So how did English teams do against Pep's Bayern and Barca teams then?
Generally well beaten is the answer.
Which going by the logic on here, he must be an amazing manager, as both of those teams play in leagues that are shit.
It's true that the Barcelona side he took over were extremely strong, I mean Brendan Rodgers could probably have won the champions league with that team, they were that good. Under Guardiola, however, they did more than that - they were the best football team anyone had seen in a generation. Maybe several generations - Head and shoulders above any other side on the planet.loddrik - MemberDon't think he's as good as made out to be. Barca and bayern were already way ahead of the competition when he took over. He's no Ferguson and he'll probably get a shock as to how much more competitive the premier league is.
It's an interesting comparison with Ferguson, as he never came close to doing that himself, with Utd. So it will be good to see how Pep handles City - money has literally been no object for them and they've yet to build a side that even dominates its own leage.
No English teams have come close to playing the football that Barca have in the CL in the last 5 years, Ferguson even admits that himself - His biggest regret is that MU never won more in that competition.
The luxury that the Spanish and German teams have in the CL is that they can field their reserves in their leagues at the weekend and still be fairly guaranteed of an easy win, allowing them to ensure their key players are right for the main CL.
unless you're playing Villa you don't have that luxury in the premier league.
The fact that you describe being 5th in the table with a positive goal difference as "utterly shite" still makes you the most hated club in Manchester for me.
Have you actually watched a United game this season? The problem isn't just with the results. Its with the spirit-crushingly tedious, totally negative style of play. its absolutely woeful!
i'd imagine that, as you hate us, you'd be loving it?
I'm a little bit underwhelmed by it, TBH, as I think Pellegrini has done well, and it will probably unsettle the squad going into (and probably straight out of ) the latter stages of the CL.
What we really needed was to start sorting out the back four, given that Kompany will only probably be an occasional starter now.
Has Pellegrini done well? I'm not so sure he has.
So how did English teams do against Pep's Bayern and Barca teams then?
Thanks to Sky we know that in England Pep's record is:- lost 4, won 3 and drawn 3.
Also note the 'little' teams in the PL won't play the same way, they'll be much more physical and look to hit on the counter (similar to how Chelsea put them out of the CL in 2012).
However, the thought of a front line containing Agüero and Lewandowski is enough to give most defenders nightmare though 😯 With that those 2 I'm sure they'd be favs for the PL title.
Has Pellegrini done well? I'm not so sure he has.
PL champs in 2014, reasonable start to this season given the injuries to Kompany, Zabaleta, Aguero, Silva, 2nd and 3 points back. Through the group stages of the CL for a change, into one cup final already. So basically still on for a treble.
Perhaps my expectations have been tempered by being a city fan for a few decades, but most fans would be pretty happy with this.
I was thinking more that he has won only two trophies. The league once , and the league cup once , got knocked out by minnows in fa cups, not made inroads into the CL which was his main task and his players clearly still have an issue with playing away from home . B- could do better, hence Pep
It's possible that the owners are seeing that the squad will need renewal for next season, and see PG as the right person to attract the talent. And I suppose they had to act now to secure him before he went to Chelsea or Utd.
Can't see Yaya being at the Etihad next season, I was amazed at how lacklustre he was when I saw him play earlier in the season. Barely broke into a trot.
Have you actually watched a United game this season? The problem isn't just with the results. Its with the spirit-crushingly tedious, totally negative style of play. its absolutely woeful!
i'd imagine that, as you hate us, you'd be loving it?
Get a grip. I've just spent 3 years watching a team managed by Sam Allardyce.
they had to act now to secure him before he went to Chelsea or Utd.
They've been talking to him for over 4 years!! This is all about Middle East ego's, they want the 'best' so they've got him.
It's another decent manager coming to the premier league, it isn't the second coming, the way some of the media and city fans would have us believe. City will win some stuff, they way they would with any decent manager given the funds they have, they aren't going to dominate the way Utd did. And I'll bet, just like with Bayern, he'll be off when his contract ends.
Get a grip. I've just spent 3 years watching a team managed by Sam Allardyce.
You have my sincerest condolences 😉
I think what is more interesting, is who will replace Arsene Wenger next year. All the main candidates now have jobs it seems. Maybe he will just keep on going till he beats Fergie's record.
Only 7 years to go.
bongohoohaa - MemberI think what is more interesting, is who will replace Arsene Wenger next year.
This is our concern. Myself and most of my gooner friends wanted Wenger to finish this year with the double and then Pep to take over. You have to dream.
People have mentioned the non flying dutchman, whereas Amy Lawrence believes it will be Thierry. I think it is very plausible
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Pure speculation for the sake of it......I'd suggest at this stage. I really can't imagine either would be considered suitable, just because of their amazing playing careers. If Le Prof packed it in at the end of the season on a high ( 😯 ) there is only one candidate standing out currently.
there is only one candidate standing out currently.
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That is genius Bongo!
Was PG not found to have been on the performance juice during his playing days? I'd be very surprised if his Barca team weren't also on roids, Spanish sport in general has been tainted for a while.
I can't get excited over his arrival for this reason. This plus the fact he would never have gone to Citeh in a million years if they didn't have all the dollar.
For me Klopp was the last great hope to salvage footballs soul - then he broke my heart by signing for the bin dippers. Still, at least he went there for footballing reasons, no other reason to go there when he could have had his pick of club.
Looking like Jose for MU then....
Seeing quotes of 'Manchester football capital of the world' is fun.
Wondering if Jose is a spent force. In which case he will probably fit in well at United after all.
Despite criticism of his defensive strategy, his record at Real helps largely dismiss that belief. IMO he has one of the best football brains in the business, but doesn't have the mental stability to back it up. At some point. Be it 6 months or 2 years, he will show his true colours and break down in a massive fit of patheticness
Jose wants the job but i dont think he is the right fit
His methods are confrontational - with his own players not the media other managers as Fergie did that- ad ultimately it will break down as he does somethign really stupid to keep the"tension" up that means he loses the players, the board, team and fans - blaming the doctor being the one this time at Chelsea
His style is functional and as the reception of LvG shows this is not enough - they may moan less if they are winning the league but they will never be truly happy with his methods
Basically he will do what he always does
Play defensively, win with low scores, antagonise everyone then eventually get sacked.
It will take united at least another 5 years to get past the myths of fergies success. Until then it isn't an attractive prospect to a manager with options.
I'll bite, 'myths' ?
Despite media reports to the contrary, I still don't believe Man U will sink that low!
Despite media reports to the contrary, I still don't believe Man U will sink that low!
Do they really want that particular circus to arrive in town? And potentially the public humiliation of their manager in the courts during his first season?
Looks like pep is breaking with his tradition of taking over winners and making them win, perhaps he should be going to Leicester...
What Leicester are doing this season is truly wonderful to watch unfold (including current performance against Citeh).
The whole season including the last several previous suggests to me that training methods and techniques have peaked and are now more evenly spread than ever before. I wonder if we will ever see a team dominate for more than one or two seasons again - until perhaps then mega bucks disappear
Leicester are brilliant. Completely outstanding performance . I almost want them to win it instead of us.
As a man city fan since before we were good I am actually enjoying Leicester's March to the title. City's defence have been woeful all season, look lost without kompany.
What Leicester are doing this season is truly wonderful to watch unfold
As a City fan (also from way back shite) I wholeheartedly agree with this. Supporting them all the way now.
interesting isnt it
Imagine writing a story of team in the relegation zone one christmas with a non league striker and then they go on to win the league, he scores the most goals etc
It would not be believed for being so far fetched
All in all it just reminds me of this
Football bloody hell
Its such a great game from the [ terrible for me] moment Aquero won it foe city from us with the last kick of the season to Leicester this season
Football really has such outrageous swings and arrows of fortune.
From early in the thread:
City will dominate for some time now.
But which city? 😀
Makes me so happy, as a lapsed Leicester supporter, who first went to filbert street in the late 70'S
As A (Man) City fan I admire how Leicester have played this season and acknowledge that we were deservedly well beaten today but wanting them to win the title at the expense of my team? - no way! - Corinthian spirit only goes so far.
Man City have not really played well this season since the first international break and the loss of Kompany, Silva and Aguero. The main issue is the woeful defense. I was 99% certain that Leicester would score first today. Lots of teams do at the Etihad but normally we have enough to turn things around - not today.
I am still kinda p*ssed that player power got rid of Mancini. He might have been a bit confrontational and abrasive which does not wash nowadays even if you win trophies (as Jose found out) but he knew who to organise a team to defend. An away goal at the Etihad used to be a rare, hard earned thing instead of a given within 25 minutes of kick off.
There are things I admire about Pelligrini and when his teams are on song they are a joy to watch but he really needs to have done better over the past two seasons with the players and funds at his disposal.
I expect Pep to be a success but think it will take time. There are quite a lot of players at City who probably will not be able to adopt to his way of playing. I am hoping that a few youngsters will be drafted in. He did that very well at Barca.