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Do people seriously send their kids to a nursery for that long each day, and they have breakfast and lunch there too?
Why not just send to boarding school and [i]really[/i] get rid of that awful burden you have. 🙄
At those prices you could have skipped all the toddler stuff and just bought a couple of teenagers.
Oops, should this be in the child catcher thread? 😆
robdob - MemberDo people seriously send their kids to a nursery for that long each day, and they have breakfast and lunch there too?
Why not just send to boarding school and really get rid of that awful burden you have.
out of interest what do you expect working people to do with their children during their work hours.
also it appears you don't understand the importance of social interaction for young kids.
we used to pay £200 a month for child care 3 days 9-4, that came down to £73 with the free time. had to pay full rate for summer holidays.
Robdob would you prefer working parents to just jack it in and go on benefits then? If you work you have little choice especially those who don't have other family near by. No parent would want to put their kids in nursery for long hours but it's a fact of life for many.
Loving the various types of middleclassfamilytrackworld angst on this thread.
Has anyone mentioned that that only do to benefit the kids yet?
I'd happily give up my job, claim maximum state benefits. Show my children the benefit of being a stay at home unit.
Then, when they're both at school, look for a 10 am til 2pm job (that I can cycle to) so I don't have to burden anyone with my children at any point.
In fact, some of you guys put such a good argument across, I'm going to home educate them....
What does the world look like from up there?
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This is how I see it. In fact how we as in me and the mrs. We saw no point in having kids then farming them out to nursery to be basically brought up by someone else. So the mrs went part time, which is totally acceptable and should be made an option by either of your employers shouldn't it?
Anyway, the money was then tight but we've battled through and now they're both at school and things are somewhere nearer normal. Although the mrs only does 9-3 now.
Kids are only little for a very short time and I do think you and your mrs are missing out on a whole lot of time with them.
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also it appears you don't understand the importance of social interaction for young kids.
there is social interaction and there is farming them off all day everyday
Where's the crossover?
Ask for a more detailed break down of the fees. For my nipper there is a "full-time" discount and the nursery charges an additional amount for extra-curricular activities - this is code for "can't remove free hours from".
tbh I don't see how this is an different to any other 'service' you pay for?
Decide the 'quality' you need and then look at the providers, pick the one that best suits you for the price you want to pay.
And please, lets not have any more 'it was cheaper in your day' crap.
In my 'day' our mortgage interest rate was in double-figures; the only time off I got for my kids were the days that were deducted from my annual-leave when I was in hospital when they were born; maternity pay was limited to 6 weeks full pay and 12 weeks at £50; no paternity pay at all and certainly no subsidised childcare.
Great post br you berate someone for doing what you then go on to do. Loving your work.
How many of the self righteous fathers (i presume most here are men) actually work part time and dont just farm their kids off to the mrs and actually spend all their time shirking on stw?
In my case it was a joint decision aa. The main reasoning though was I earn more money so the percentage lost in my wages would've been greater. I've had a week of being full time dad this week as the mrs has been in hospital and I'd be the first to admit I got the best deal by far!!!
All very nice for you but its extremely disrespectful not to mention rude to expect everyone to 1. be able to do what you do or 2. Agree that your parenting choices are the best and theirs are wrong.
Rude? As above I said in my opinion. Have kids do what you want with them. Mine, well I didn't want anyone else bringing them up and when a kid goes out the house for that long from such a young age that's what I believe is happening.
All in my opinion of course.
Well rather than throwing around your opinions on childcare as being the best whilst being critical of other choices why not just keep quiet? Who is to say your choices are the best for your kids or everyone elses? Why not take your choice to the logical conclusion and have you stay at home too? And to be clear our circumstances are similar to yours. Doesnt make it the best for us or anyone else, it is what it is and will all muddle thru trying our best.
Crankbrat absolutely loves nursery and has come on no end in terms of confidence and physical ability simply by mixing with and playing with a wide variety of children .
Bring them up at home with constant parental helicoptering may not produce the most stable and gragerious children . Plus that first day at school is going to be a bit of a shock to their system.
The funding of nursery places is really complex have a word with them and ask them to explain how they do the calculation.
Whysis it so hard for some stw cliche types to accept that this nursery IS in fact taking advantage to the detriment of hard working families?
It's a bit like a shop increasing prices across the board after a currency change to profiteer (I.e. not simply to account for a little extra admin work).
Comments like "you chose to have kids so deal with it"...why bother making the effort to type a comment like this? Procreation is the foundation by which humanity survives and we should all make allowances to support survival of our race!
Glasgowdan, far to sensible for this place!
The example is worse than that though. The nursery get paid twice if the 15 hours are paid by the gov and then some by the parent.
Procreation is the foundation by which humanity survives
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A pointless graph, excellent this thread has "arrived"
See the dip in the graph? That's the work of HITLER
MrSmith - Member
See the dip in the graph? That's the work of HITLER
That's Bubonic plague, AKA The Black Death.
I think MrSmith knew that and was going for Godwins
Did you factor in that it's not funded during school holidays?
dirtyrider - Memberthere is social interaction and there is farming them off all day everyday
however, if you work everyday. not everyone can afford to work part
time or indeed get to work part time and spend time with their kids. If we worked full time we would also need after school care now as both are at school. Gone have the days when the woman stays at home and the man goes to work (as much as my wife would it to still be like)
My Mrs is a room manager at a private day care nursery. Bloody tough job imo and she's great at it. If we were to have kids, then after maternity etc we'd need to look at sending the kid to nursery full time as I work full time and Mrs B would want to return to work. As I said she's not just doing the basic job but is in charge of all the planning of an entire room and the staff that are in it....on her current take home v's current full time nursery fee's she'd be bringing home less than 200 per month! The girls that do a the basic job would be out of pocket! (There is no staff discount)
Not sure what the point of this post is, but ho hum. Fair play to anyone with kids on lower wages that are trying to make things work-rather you than me!
OP. The phrase hook line and sinker springs to mind.
Keep chasing the dream my friend, it will all be worth it in the end..
Been there op.
£1400/month ours maxed out at for two.
What I would say is, shop around.
Are there any surestart centres close by ?
For a few years you'll feel like your working for nothing, & nobody cares. 🙂
But it gets better. (& cheaper).
Chin up fella.
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This is how I see it. In fact how we as in me and the mrs. We saw no point in having kids then farming them out to nursery to be basically brought up by someone else. So the mrs went part time, which is totally acceptable and should be made an option by either of your employers shouldn't it?
So if your wife still worked part time, who looked after the kids while she was working?
I loved the 'we shut down for two weeks over Christmas but you still pay 10% fees to save your childs place' rule of hora jnrs old nursery.
We constantly had to correct and quibble. A friend was royally fleeced and shesstill waiting for money back post-her kids moving on.
Best ever - we received a letter 'fees going up this year due to improved facilities.
They had an extension built to allow more kids squeezed in.