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My son's asked for a gaming PC for a birthday prezzie. Neither of us knows owt about them. It's to replace a 6-year old laptop which is slowly dying and doesn't run games well.

What should I be looking to spend, what do I need to look for? Can anyone recommend anything, new or secondhand?


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 7:52 pm
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Suspect anything will be an improvement on a 6 year old laptop. But you can pay 300 - 3k, what's the budget? There will be best choices based on that.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 8:00 pm
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For best performance / value £100 on graphics card and £100 on CPU. If you're not building it all yourself see how the off-the-shelf systems compare for those two items if bought separately.

This one is about that spec plus good motherboard, hdd & lots of ram:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-PHENOM-II-X-6-GAMING-PC-8GB-RAM-500GB-HDD-WINDOWS-7-PRO-/190780659289?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item2c6b69d659

Windows included but no monitor.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 8:31 pm
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Try scan.co.uk for a decent gaming system at a not too outrageous cost.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 8:39 pm
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Whats your budget? i'll point you in the direction of a good build.


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 9:06 pm
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Thanks, all. It's difficult to know the budget - say £500 including monitor & keyboard? Something that won't be too outdated in 2-3 years.

I feel like a non-cyclist trying to buy a bike, wondering whether a £99 Tesco special is OK, or if I need £2000 of carbon loveliness. So, reckoning that £300 is a minimal laptop cost, does £500 seem reasonable for a gaming machine?


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 9:17 pm
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I built a gaming rig for my 70 year old mother about a year ago. I think it came it at about £550 just for the PC but she did insist on an i7 processor and a £170 graphics card 🙂 She plays 3d RPGs.


 
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I got my lad one at Xmas for £330 from Vibox, they have an Ebay shop too. Think it was this one, or very similar.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VIBOX-GA-FAST-WINDOWS-8-AMD-DUAL-CORE-8GB-RAM-1TB-DESKTOP-GAMING-PC-COMPUTER-/360501748255?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs

Seems to be pretty good according to him, He's happy then I'm happy! 😀

I didn't really fancy an Ebay job, but we researched the spec and it seems pretty good. He has more clue than me @ 13yo though! 😆


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:17 pm
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£500 on a birthday present so he can piss about on games?

:-O


 
Posted : 11/01/2013 10:36 pm
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Check out the value systems at Scan. That machine from ebay has a £20 graphics card in it and the processor is about £30, you can do much better from the proper computer shops than ebay in the case of PC's


 
Posted : 12/01/2013 12:17 pm
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Really depends what types of games your son wants to play.

If he's planning on playing Battlefield 3 or World of Warcraft or any cutting edge FPS games then the examples given so far will struggle a lot.

If he's more into less demanding things e.g Eve Online, Runescape and Minecraft though, as teenagers often are, then a £300-500 job will probably be fine.

If he already has a TV in his room with an HDMI input then you don't necessarily even need to budget for a monitor.


 
Posted : 12/01/2013 12:22 pm
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World of Warcarft isn't exactly cutting edge. My steam-powered laptop throws it around (or did about two years ago, last time I played). However,

Really depends what types of games your son wants to play.

What gaming is favoured by your average six-year old? I can't imagine Resident Evil 6 being too high on the list. A "gaming PC" and a "PC to play games on" isn't necessarily the same thing.

EDIT - sorry, ignore that, misread the OP.


 
Posted : 12/01/2013 2:55 pm
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He's adult but in a crap job when employed, so it's "proper" games he plays. Skyrim, Call of Duty, WoW. Not that I know what those are cos I'm a old codger and prefer a bike.
Many thanks for all suggestions & comments so far. Keep them coming, please


 
Posted : 12/01/2013 3:11 pm
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The amount of power you need's largely dependant on screen... I play on a 24 inch screen so my antique Q6600 processor and adequate 560 graphics card are more than up to the task, if I was to put that on a big screen it'd start to need some big settings cuts for high-demand games

I think some people are maybe applying the wrong mindset to this, playing the latest games on high settings needs a pretty powerful PC but just knocking down a couple of the highest demand settings will get most things running well without a massive impact on looks. Quite a common theme from enthusiasts- "That system won't run <game X> with 16x AA". So what?


 
Posted : 12/01/2013 3:26 pm