[Closed] Celebrity premature death

86 is premature? Great

86 is premature? Great

Er, average age is 69 of that list.

that or too many [s]mince pies[/s] drugs and hookers

The common link is obviosuly death, I do believe that death is normally fatal.
Stay away from death kids, it'll kill you.

Apparently, becoming a celebrity, doesn't make you immortal. Who knew, eh!

The common link is obviosuly death, I do believe that death is normally fatal.

The common link in that set is high profile celebrity, unfortunately there isn't a larger set that the one above to get us to the magic number of 30. The average life expectancy still seems pretty low. The common link between all deaths is 81 in the UK, 83 in Japan and 78 in the USA.

I wonder when the real story of celebrity (premature) death is going to get written?

What do you mean [i]real[/i] story?

We haven't been told the truth - there's been more celebrity deaths that we don't know about?

What do you mean real story?

That celebrity isn't quite what it's cracked up to be. We plaster that news with messages that reinforce celebrity and celebrity lifestyle and yet all these celebrities end up dying so young. Hardly a recruitment poster for the human race is it.

Seriously, is anyone really thinking that George Michael, Prince, Carrie Fisher, David Bowie etc died of old age? We have imbeclilles like Trump getting elected to POTAS at 70 and yet someone like George Michael, who by all accounts was both an angel and a tourtured soul shuffling off at 53 as a result of life style factors. Why can't the idiots like Trump be the ones to over indulge in poor choices?

geetee1972 - Member

Er, average age is 69 of that list.

Not a bad number that.....

Not a bad number that.....

Do you really think that Marco Pantani and George

What do you mean real story?

the government is bumping them off early before they can squirrel away their riches into offshore trust funds.

Without including Richard Adams at 96 and Liz Smith at 95 though.

I excluded the outliers and the ones that most people haven't heard of.

And now carrie fisher has died at 60

Rock and Roll is definitely hazardous to your health

An academic study published recently confirms that rock and pop musicians are more likely to die prematurely than the general population, and finds that solo artists are twice as likely to die young as members of bands.
Researchers from Liverpool John Moores University and Britain’s Health Department studied 1,489 rock, pop, punk, R&B, rap, electronica and New Age stars who became famous between 1956 and 2006 — from Elvis Presley to the Arctic Monkeys.
They found that 137 of the stars, or 9.2 percent, had died, representing “higher levels of mortality than demographically matched individuals in the general population.”
The researchers dismissed the “fanciful but unsubstantiated” popular myth that rock stars tend to die at age 27 — as Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Kurt Cobain and Amy Winehouse all did. The average age of death was 45.2 years for North American stars and 39.6 for European ones.

Yet you included Gest.....

but still the average life expectancy for your high profile celebrity falls pretty short of the average for the whole population.

How about all the other high profile ones still alive? How do they factor into your life expectancy calculation?

I excluded the outliers and the ones that most people haven't heard of.

Makes you think!

Apparently amphetamines are known to cause long term heart problems* so that may account for some of those who may have dabbled in the past, and smoking and drinking are rumoured to be bad for longevity, but I doubt that the sample above proves anything.

*Source - MrsMC, who is spending too much time supporting families with parents who have abused one thing or the other recently. And she is NEVER wrong.

I excluded the outliers and the ones that most people haven't heard of.

You havent included the old still alive celebs though I notice so ermmmm...well

Think I'll stick to Blues and Jazz

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So how do you explain the Rolling Stones? 😉

This is a thread worthy of the Daily Mash

geetee1972 - Member

Hardly a recruitment poster for the human race is it.

Oh I don't know.......if you're a hamster you'd be lucky to live to be 3 years old.

Think I'll stick to Blues and Jazz

It's no surprise that the young deaths are at the newer genre of music end of the graph. I don't suppose there are many 90 year old rap artists on the go. Come back in 50 years or so and it will even out somewhat.

Am I the only one that thinks that uponthedowns chart is a bit odd, lacking something?

I though George Michael and Prince were fabulous human beings but they've harldy died of old age have they.

I wonder what could possibly be the reason.

Yes the data is confounded with the age of the genre which explains the low average for Rap but Rock and Roll and Pop has been around since the 50's so I reckon up to that point age of the genre may not be that much of a factor.

This is why I keep coming back to this place 😆

An X axis for the US male and female life expectancy lines?

You really need to do the same calculation for non famous people who died in 2016 to base line your findings and because you have far to much time on your hands.

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b076prgl ]more or less[/url]

Am I the only one that thinks that uponthedowns chart is a bit odd, lacking something?

It does not states whether or not it assumes Tupac is dead?

An X axis for the US male and female life expectancy lines?

Genius . Take a bunch of celebrity deaths , exclude those who were really old when they died and what you are left with is a group who died before the their time if you average their ages at time of death .

That graph has chosen to use a plan view of Chas from Chas'n'Dave as it's background 🙂

So how do you explain the Rolling Stones?

The exceptions that [i]prove[/i] the rule.

Genius . Take a bunch of celebrity deaths , exclude those who were really old when they died and what you are left with is a group who died before the their time if you average their ages at time of death

When did this happen?

Can't honestly see any correlation to celebz n death.

Humans are a fickle blob.

Good point made in that More or Less programme.

Celebrity, pop culture and TV only kicked off in the 50s and 60s, before that it was only really film stars that got famous. So baby boomers who became famous in the 60s and 70s are now starting to check out as per normal life expectancy

Is it possible that type selection bias is that there was a huge expansion of popular culture in the 60s and 70s (ergo the stars of this email were born in the 1940s-50s). No one can name the stars of the 50s - they've mostly fallen away into insignificance, or maybe died so long after their fame that their death isn't newsworthy.

If you accept the above, then the idea that most celebrity deaths are premature is because [i]most celebrities[/i] are from an era where we haven't reached their full life expectancy yet.

Cocaine is a heart killer, particularly in young lives with normal coronary arteries.

Strong correlation with celebrities and cocaine?

When did this happen?

2016 , do try to keep up 🙂

Maybe spending your life on the piss and taking hard drugs kills you earlier than those of us who can`t afford it ?