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[Closed] CCTV - Security wont release info due to Data Protection ?!?!

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A colleague had there car damaged whilst parked in the car park at work last week. The car park is a shared car park with allocated bays for different companies that work within the building. Therefore it had to be a colleague in our company that banged her car.

Security (who work for the landlord) have checked the tapes but say they wont release the vehicle registration of the car that did it because of data protection!

Is this right or are they talking trollocks?


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 10:35 am
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Absolutely crap. Data protection relates to releasing personal details. All numberplates in the carpark are there on display to see. All the carpark would be doing is confirming who struck your car. What are they hiding?

Question- any paint left on the car at all? If not, why not walk around the cars now parked furthest away and look for damage on the corners/scuffs etc.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 10:40 am
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surely they should quote the "freedom of information act" to security.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 10:41 am
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Report the accident to the police and get them to ask for it?


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 10:41 am
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Utter balderdash.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 10:48 am
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If not, why not walk around the cars now parked furthest away and look for damage on the corners/scuffs etc.

Starting with all the security vans first ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 10:50 am
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As above, contact the police they can come down and just take it as part of an ongoing investigation. We had one the other week a customer complained that someone had hit his car. We aren't allowed to let the customer see our footage, but our security or managers can review which we did, told him to report it and get the police to investigate as its a hit and run. 2 hrs later a local copper turned up, took a copy of the footage and job done!


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 11:00 am
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LMT - Can it be a hit and run though with it being on private land?

I thought Police could only get involved if it is on a Public Highway?


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 11:09 am
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pretty sure you can ask for CCTV you appear in if you quote time and place - useful if you are attacked or in a prang or something, dunno if you can ask for stuff you don't star in.

Usual disclaimer - I could be talking utter piffle.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 11:10 am
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I thought Police could only get involved if it is on a Public Highway?

How does that work? Can I smash someones windscreen if they park it on their drive, but not if they park it on the road?

How about shooting someone? ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 11:23 am
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DONK - Yes i saw that programme with don't get done get dickanddom and he said companies are obliged to provide CCTV you star in.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 11:27 am
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surely they should quote the "freedom of information act" to security.

FOI only applies to access to data held by the state.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 12:03 pm
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Report to police - they submit a section 29 form to the organisation and the cctv will be released to police.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 12:08 pm
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Sounds like they did it - tapes will be erased by the time plod gets involved you can bet ๐Ÿ™


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 12:11 pm
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Then be quite forward 'its because you caused it then isn't it'?

If they didn't Im sure they'll be more than willing to put you right (and laugh in your face).

That way you'll know.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 12:17 pm
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no reason under data protection - why would we ave so much CCTV idf no one could access it becaus eodf the Data protection law. The number plate belongs to the car it tells you no personal or private information about the owner etc. Place a written request ASAP with immediate written repsonse for refusal from them - I would suspect them or the person who did it is a mate or has bribed them etc.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 12:22 pm
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I was led to believe it's footage of yourself you can request in writing to the company. The police can you request more or maybe another legal body. Walking up to the security office with childish comments isn't going to help.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 12:24 pm
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As above - put a request in writing that they release the details to you or, at least, retain them pending further discussion.

If they say 'Data Protection' ask them to provide details of the relevant statutes that they are using to withold the information.

If you can get senior mangement within the company involved too it might help expedite matters.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 12:26 pm
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If this is a private car park then neither careless driving or reporting a road accident apply so it is not a police matter.

If the car park is public then careless driving laws apply and any accident needs to be reported (or details exchanged/owner informed etc)

As per RTA 1988 section 3 and section 170, both as amended by RTA 1991.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 3:21 pm
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irc - its may not be an rta but there is still potentially a crime is there not? Property has been damaged.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 3:23 pm
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as per TJ - if someone had smashed the car with a hammer it would be looked at by the police - isn't a car just a bigger hammer?


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 3:27 pm
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Walking up to the security office with childish comments isn't going to help.

They are uneducated idiots. Talk their language.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 3:30 pm
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Hora, are you worried your newfound paternal maturity is affecting your online persona so want to up your sweeping (insulting) generalisations quota?


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 3:33 pm
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They are uneducated idiots. Talk their language.

Well the seem to be educated enough not just to let anyone see the CCTV footage without the right consent.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 3:36 pm
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Good luck making an insurance claim in a private car park.

Bombers or wee in shoes may be the only course of recompense.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 3:37 pm
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They are uneducated idiots. Talk their language

you could wroite his script.... perhaps you are a little over qualified in the idiot department


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 3:41 pm
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I thought Data protection was along the lines of 'the data can only be used for the purposes it is being collected for'. in this case I presume car park security, so you might be on dodgy ground if you asked to review tapes for the purposes of checking someone's hours, but to see who drove into your car.

Tell them to get real, or you'll ask the Police to get involved for failing to report a RTA. Might not be strictly correct if it's on private land but fight idiocy with more idiocy is always my motto.


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 3:45 pm
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you could [u]wroite[/u] his script

Well I most certainly wont be choosing you to proof-read it ๐Ÿ™„


 
Posted : 27/01/2011 3:47 pm