[Closed] cbt tomorow scared!!!! 🙁

Just as everyone else is saying listen to your instructor and if in doubt ask. You'll be fine.
There's a lot to take in on one day and I had to go back the following weekend before I was given the thumbs up. If they'd passed me on the day I would have been worried though as I didn't feel safe at all but a few days for it to sink in and I sailed through.

youll be fine, they dont chuck you on out on the roads straight away, plenty of time in the yard.

Take things steady and don't get cocky.

I was told off by my examiner for overconfidence 😳

Don't forget to feed back on how it goes.

On road positioning - unfortunately the standards for the CBT / main test are not what experienced bikers / advanced trained ones use.

for CBT you will be told to keep left of centre of the lane. the correct road positioning is right of centre of lane.

Motorcyclist lobby groups have been trying to change this for years but unfortunately the authorities will not.

Same as they teach the "hendon shuffle" ie when stationary cover the foot brake so balance on one foot in neutral. so to pull away you have to swap feet to get the bike in gear and then swap back again to pull away as they still want you to cover the rear brake

accept the training to CBT standards then afterwards get a lesson or two to help you actually gain some understanding of real world riding

Oh - and good luck. Listen to your trainer, concentrate on wht yo are doing. make sure you eat something as low blood sugar is the enemy of concentration.

You will be fine

good luck (but you'll be fine 😉

So how did it go?

TJ, It's because you can't expect a total beginner to automatically sacrific position for safety. In my experience as an instructor, this was often the case. However, if I came across someone sharp enough to do this, I taught them the better road position. Examiners don't mind where you ride so long as It's safe. By the way, for L test training, those sho were sharp enough were few and far between. Outside the sum line is Bette for those who understand. Inside the sump line is better for most of those who are learning. As you know, both are better than on the sump line.

for CBT you will be told to keep left of centre of the lane

I wasn't. Exactly the opposite in fact.
I remember it vividly. There were 4 of us on the course, 2 of us on 125s and 2 16 year olds, one on an MTX50 and one on an old 50cc scooter. Both of the youungsters had obviously ridden away from the roads for some time, the lads MTX was in lovely nick, and the old scooter was well maintained, too.

Anyway...
During the training the instructor told all of us, and especially the lads on the 30mph 50s specifically NOT to ride near the kerb, but to get towards the centre of the road. His words were something like "You can do the speed limit, don't be shy, get out and use your bit of road" or words to that effect

Outside the sum line is Bette for those who understand.

Bloody smart phone. Sump line and better are the words it screwed up this time. There may well be others as well.

Well, she's either sat rocking in the middle of that roundabout fogging up her visor with tears of despair or she's out in the sun seeing how many tanks of petrol she can use learning how to back in the Habana

I remember that day and passing my full license, what a buzz.

I wish someone had taught me to 'enjoy' nerves and make me see failure could be remedied and wasn't life and death when I was a kid and look forward to the rewards.

Nerves are good. Use em to focus.

Hope the OP got on alright today.

Definitely agree with TJ re being right of centre and don't understand this keeping left to let cars overtake. Can cars actually overtake ?!? 😉

There is an awful lot to learn after CBT and as posted above, additional training is a must. Well worth it though as the rewards are huge and there's nothing quite like it 😀

I did both train and pass my test on a BSA 650 with sidecar so It may have confused them.

Try and relax and enjoy thetest, just think of it as another lesson. That seemed to work for me more than 30 years ago 🙁 if you are nervous and uptight you wont be as comfortable on the bike. Good luck

Right, I reckon by this time you'll have done it and it'll have gone well or badly. So this is in case it went badly.

nicolahabana - Member

im pretty sure im going to miserably fail an unfailable test

Folks say it's not a test but at the end of the day, you leave with a certificate or you don't. A difference that makes no difference is no difference 😉

I "failed" 3 times. First time I was a disaster, I just couldn't get clutch control sorted at all. I had good bike handling skills and balance though, so I managed to persevere for ages even though I was never really in control, without ever fixing the problem, just bluffing and bodging my way through the lessons without ever actually doing anything right, and getting worse and worse. Absolutely horrible, I had to quit eventually as I was a broken man, confidence completely destroyed. That was on my own bike, and if I'd not already bought it I'd never have tried again!

2nd try, was largely about fixing the damage from the first. Did it on a hire bike- easier to ride. Went better, got out on the road this time, and I got the basics sorted but I was still totally lacking in confidence after the first time and when we came to the end of the day, had a long chat with the instructor and said I didn't want to ride away by myself- wasn't ready. So booked a third, and thank ****! got it nailed.

But this is partly because there's 2 sorts of CBT- the one to get you on the road no matter what, and the one that actually cares whether you're halfway competent. I'm glad I did the latter...

My mate Stu, he did the former. Left the school barely able to steer, wrote the bike off after a month. Got another one, trashed it too. After 2 years, his CBT expired so he went back to the same school and halfway through the morning session he crashed and broke himself, couldn't carry on. They sent him off to the hospital with a new CBT certificate and said "Well you've been riding for 2 years, you'll be fine".

He's not dead mind so maybe it worked out in the end.

So what happened then?

[i]how the hell are you supposed to remember the difference between toucan pelican puffin etc crossings?! :/ [/i]

That will be the least of your worries...

Just ride like you own the road, and everyone else is trespassing on your land. You have to 'dominate', therefore positioning is key.

Q - The car in front has its right indicator on, what is the only logical conclusion for this?
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A - The light works...

Be safe, never trust a tin-top, and don't tuck your trousers into your boots, it makes you look like those old boys you see on classic bikes on a sunday. 😉

A - The light works...

The only reliable logical conclusion is that the light works intermittently.

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Hey OP, how did you get on?

i passed! 🙂 ....ok so maybe it wasnt worth the panic

i was there 11 til 4pm it was absolutely pissing down and windy but somehow i managed to get through it..

The hardest part was at the start when i had to go in a little car park bit and do straight lines and figure of 8s etc but then he said right you can follow me all the way back to mine now (having been on a bike for 30 mins)..i thuoght i was going to throw up as this was 2 roundabouts and through town away...

Strange because as soon as we hit the road i was straight and calm and natural ulike how i had just been going slowly on an empty car park..
I panicked a bit when the ruondabout loomed but its only because im not experienced with where to go and when ...
I go back to his alive and thought yess its over..

Then he handed me over to his female assistant and i had a further three hours going around town learning the correct way to indicate..turn corners..where to position myself in the road and at traffic lights ..how fast to go and when...etcetc..the other lad with me already knew what he was doing so seemed quite bored but for me i have never concentrated so hard in my entire life..
At one point i was cruising along getting soaked and i realised wow i am actually doing it and its not scary at all..

I am just waiting for my l plates and then i shall be off on my adventures 🙂

I would highly reccomend anyone to do a cbt and get a bike if they think theyd like to because its one of the best things i have ever done!

ps i have untucked my trousers out of my boots 😳

Good work, well done!

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nice one (see you could do it 😀

ps i have untucked my trousers out of my boots

I'd get a flurescent/reflective jacket as well, they make you look like a builder going to work but more importantly if someones seen you long enough to make the judgemet that it's a fassion faux-pas then at least they're not going to pull out on you.

Well done- good job!!

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Now enjoy yourself and aim for your full training as soon as you can (to avoid picking up bad habits before you go do your full test 😉 ). Then you can ride anything and the world is yours!
Life is good on two wheels 😀

my jacket as seen above has reflective strips and i have a bright pink helmet and a bit fat habana..im pretty sure i will be seen 😀

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life is good! ...pink ninja next 😛

Well done you! I was the roughly the same age when I did my cbt I then spent a year or so on a DT125 bought cheaply through adtrader (MRPP loved that bike) then did a Direct Access course and carried on riding my 125 for 6 months before getting a Kawazaki GPZ. I say get out there and enjoy it! I still shout yippee on my commutes to and from work even on the scooter (GT200).

ps i have untucked my trousers out of my boots

I was digging the swashbuckling look.

Which ninja have you got in mind? I loved my ZX's.

I'm not even allowed to store my bicycles in the hall.

Rolling a motorbike in there would end in tears.

ha! i like bikes in the hall coz you can sit and look at them from your sofa 🙂

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