Goldfish on a fishing hook ??
Depends on the locksmith, uplink!
It shouldn't do - it's pretty standard good practice
My brother's a locksmith & he's forever waiting for the police
EDIT: hang on, I'll give him a ring
I never said one thats likely to be an upstanding citizen 😉
I like jeromes thinking!
I never said one thats likely to be an upstanding citizen
I think that makes them a burglar
Anyway, bro laughed very loudly - when he re-gathered his composure he said, "not in a million years" "no one would fall for that tale"
I think that makes them a burglar
Semantics....
1. The tracker could have come off the cat inside the house - ours manage to shed their collars on a regular basis.
2. If the cat's dead, breaking in and getting is not going to change that fact so it makes no difference (except for your own peace of mind) if you go in or not.
3. Cats can survive for many days without food (they may well be able to drink from the toilet if they were inside).
4. Our cat will cry if it's locked in somewhere - I've locked ours in the garage accidentally several times, so if it's stuck somewhere I think you'd hear it from the flap.
5. One of our cats has gone off for several days at a time and come home fine they're pretty resourceful.
6. If it's injured then of course if would be nice to go in and get it, but I agree with other comments that firstly it's unlikely to have headed to a house other than it's home if it was injured enough and still mobile and secondly you'd want to get in by a legal method.
Are the trackers unique? As they have a catflap, maybe they used to have a cat and still have the collar?
If you broke into anyones house and they called the Police to report a burglary (you). At the very least you'd receive a caution, more likely the person would want you prosecuted.
What next? Your Sons football goes into someones garden and you kick his gate off its hinges to get to it? 😆
hora - Member
Are the people who own that house Chinese?
How long did it take you to come up with that one, Hora? 🙄
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What next? Your Sons football goes into someones garden and you kick his gate off its hinges to get to it?
Of course, because opening the gate would be impossible 🙂 Mind you, only really a problem if the garden owner is the type to stab the football and shout trespass.
All the useful advice had been given before the discussion about legalities started. I know I put my tuppence in because I'd rather not see the OP with cat problems as well as being banged up for breaking and entering which is the way the discussion was heading. Whether you feel it's right or wrong, the general consensus from the involved parties, particularly the home owner, is going to be 'but it's just a cat'.
If the OP could actually see his cat bleeding to death through the window then he might have some justification but that would be about it.
If the OP could actually see his cat bleeding to death through the window then he might have some justification but that would be about it.
Doubt it. They'd still be up for breaking and entering. Their best bet would be, if they were in such a situation, to call the police. You can't simple break into someone's house for a cat that might be in there.
Imagine the scenario:
'So, what were you doing in this person's house?'
'Looking for my cat your Honour'
'20 years. Take him down'.
NAhhh they don't lock criminals up these days, especially not first time offenders! He'd most likely just get his own tracking collar.
Isn't the discussion still about breaking in on the [b]off chance[/b] the cat is there?
When it isn't the reasoning is not going to sound too plausible - especially if the neighbour has something they'd rather not share 😉
If it was my cat, I'd let the police know (not ask permission just tell them this is what I'm about to do) I'd break a window have a look round, get someone in to fix the window. Leave a few bottles of wine and an apology behind and my phone number to call when they get back.... not sure what I'd do if there's an alarm.... those things are pretty bloody annoying. Cant see someone being that pissed off as long as you are polite and if they are well **** em I'll pay for any damage so cannot see a hard pressed police force giving a flying **** either.
If it was my cat, I'd let the police know (not ask permission just tell them this is what I'm about to do) I'd break a window have a look round, get someone in to fix the window. Leave a few bottles of wine and an apology behind and my phone number to call when they get back
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You can't break into someone's house, it's a criminal act! Only if you believed there was a Human at risk or in danger, could you do so, and have a legal defence. Breaking in to see if your cat's there would not constitute a sufficient legal defence.
As said before, if someone did that to me, I'd have them done for it. A few bottles of wine? Are you taking the piss??
Cant see someone being that pissed off as long as you are polite and if they are well **** em
I wouldn't care how polite you were, I'd have you done! My home is my private space, and I have a legal entitlement to the exclusive enjoyment of that space. No way would I tolerate my home being violated, especially not for a ****ing cat!
You're legally responsible for your pets. If they 'trespass' on someone else's property, that person has the right to remove them, or if necessary, destroy them.
I'd break a window have a look round, get someone in to fix the window.
I can't speak for other houses but with mine you'd need to break a fairly large window if you wanted to get in & out as there wouldn't be an easy way to unlock any doors or windows.
Talkmada, you can rant all you like but I can do what I want as long as I'm happy to face the consequences. I doubt any prosecution would come from it. I would expect a civil case.
In your case I might leave a shit under the pillow too.
How long did it take you to come up with that one, Hora?
Well its hardly likely to be a cat that decided to go into someones house to play on their XBox whilst they are away is it?
OP Have you checked the trees and rooftops around the property? Sounds crazy, I know.
Isn't the discussion still about breaking in on the off chance the cat is there?
No, I think the original post suggested it highly likely that the cat was in there and possibly injured/dying. One would suspect common sense would dictate he make fairly sure it was in there first.
Talkmada, you can rant all you like but I can do what I want as long as I'm happy to face the consequences. I doubt any prosecution would come from it. I would expect a civil case.
Christ on a bike, are you serious?? 😯
Someone's home is their [b]private property[/b]. Do you know what that means? It means you can't go breaking in! Not under any circumstances (except maybe if their was a Human involved as I've said). If the cat was in their garden, injured, and you could clearly see it, you might get away with a caution, but breaking in? You're nicked, my beauty! Civil case? The homeowner/tenant can have you done, and the police would be obliged to press charges. You'd be ****ed.
You can do what you want, sure, but you can't break the law without expecting to suffer the penalty.
I'd call in a few favours from my legal contacts, and you, my son, would be going DAAAHHHYN! 😈
If the cat was in their garden, injured, and you could clearly see it, you might get away with a caution,
That's not even trespass, let alone breaking in to get cautioned.
Send a male one of these into the catflap. If the cats injured he'll find out. Theres a cat still inside our bush at the bottom of the garden 😯
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...and BEFORE anyone bangs on about poor kitties- they are one the biggest cold killers out there.
It means you can't go breaking in!
Read what I wrote, I can as long as I accept the consequences, you sound a bit rabid to be honest. Calm down love. Takes scrotes endless charges before they are banged up, I doubt a fine upstanding member of the community such as myself would get more than a caution.
I doubt a fine upstanding member of the community such as myself would get more than a caution.
You reckon?
Come round mine, and try it! 😈
The thing is, if your neighbours decided not to press charges, then you might get away with it. I dunno if the CPS would pursue the matter any further, if both parties were happy to settle the matter to the satisfaction of all involved. Probably not.
However, if they did press charges, you'd be ****ed. You'd be charged with breaking and entering, and would face whatever penalty applies. Your fineness and upstandingness would have some bearing on sentence, possibly, but that's about it.
You can't make up Law to suit yourself, you know.
You can't make up Law to suit yourself, you know.
No-one claimed they could though. No-one said it wasn't illegal.
I know, but Angellis Arvensis seems to think he could get away with a caution! 😆
If it were my home, AA, I'd see to it that you did the maximum bird possible. I might throw in a couple of extras, like claiming you'd victimised and threatened me. You'd be off to the Scrubs quick time. And I'd get word to Big Mick and 'Pliers' McCafferty, to ensure you'd have an extremely unpleasant time inside.
And you would come to rue the day you dared question the Mighty Talkemada...
And I'd get word to Big Mick and 'Pliers' McCafferty, to ensure you'd have an extremely unpleasant time inside.
personally - I think I'd worry more about Big Mick
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And you would come to rue the day you dared question the Mighty Talkemada...
But most peoples neighbours are understanding and not A-holes 🙂 😉
Sounds like the best thing is to break in, check for the cat, nick some stuff, leave, don't tell anyone.
That way it looks like a normal burglary, your neighbors don't think your some sort of freak who's been sniffing through their knicker draw on the presence of looking for your pussy, and you get some stuff to sell on ebay.
But most peoples neighbours are understanding and not A-holes
How does wanting to enjoy your privacy and to have your home not broken into, make you an 'A-hole'?
How would you like it, if it happened to you? Would you be so reasonable?
AA just wants to break in so he can rummage through my wife's knickers, the dirty bastard! 😯
'Missing cat' indeed...
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I can as long as I accept the consequences
You think this is just about legal consequences? Surely you must admit there's a moral issue at stake here?
I'm not sure I'd appreciate one of my neighbours breaking into my house, and leaving it wide open for any other burglars just to look for their cat...
AA just wants to break in so he can rummage through my wife's knickers, the dirty bastard!
I F**cked your wife last week so I am aware what sort of undies she has anyway.
AA just wants to break in so he can rummage through my wife's knickers
You have a wife? 😯
I F**cked your wife last week so I am aware what sort of undies she has anyway.
Nah, it weren't his wife. Everyone knows that she don't own any knickers.
Everyone knows that she don't own any knickers.
She used to but now I wear them 😕
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on my headShe used to but now I wear them
You poor man, you must be so worried. I used to have cats, I love 'em. Having said that, one of them regularly used to do the off for a couple of days and turn up none the worse for it - apart from being starving!
I'm not sure what to say, I can't put myself in your position because firstly dogs don't go walkabout like cats and second, if Missy was locked in somewhere, she would make so much racket that there would be no doubt, but in that unlikely event, yes, I would break in to someone's house (and get totally stressed out about it) and face the consequences later.
However, as posted above, surely someone has a key, or a phone number or email address for this person? Do you know the name? Can you look up and ring the home number? Some people check their messages remotely. Also, there are mobile phone directories, maybe you could look up the name?
Good luck.
A house I used to live in was all original 30s stained glass - to break in would have done irreparable damage and would have cost many hundreds to even get a replica of the original
be very sure it is your cat in there and be prepared for it to cost you thousands of pounds if it all goes wrong.
it's only a cat
We all get quite worked up about our pets don't we.
Thank you all for your responses and best wishes - I've been reading through this laughing & crying in turns - but only because Eddie has now turned up.
He was in the neighbours garage (the tracker was correct).
We now know that they're due back late tonight, and no one else nearby has a key.
When I called him through the catflap on Sunday there was no response.
When my partner tried it again this morning he practically knocked her over trying to exit the flap.
The flap was on in only (were they [i]trying[/i] to trap small animals??) and although Eddie happily defeats our catflap in that condition, theirs was a different design & he was stuck in - no water btw.
He is absolutely fine, hungry & thirsty but OK.
I don't know if he's left any 'evidence' of his stay 😐
Oh, and I wouldn't have attempted to break in without advice from the Bill unless I could see him expiring on the floor. Then I would take my chances.
Might be nice to leave a note anyway so they don't do something as daft as leave their catflap on 'in only' in future.
Up to you if you leave a name in case he has crapped everywhere......
Glad he's back.
Ours have had spells away and it is very worrying.
