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Interested if anyone's employer allows them to carry over leave from one year to the next?


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:06 pm
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Not where I work. My GF can carry over up to 5 where she works.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:07 pm
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yup, think the limit is supposed to be 3 days though


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:07 pm
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depends on your work T&C, there is no legal obligation to let you however some companies do for good will


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:09 pm
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Mine are paying me for 5, and letting 5 roll over this year


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:10 pm
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Yeah. Everywhere I have worked I've been able to; some places it's been at the line manager's discrection but that's never been a problem.
I think I've had between 3 and 5 days possible to carry over, but normally it has to be used by the end of March.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:10 pm
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We can't.

Shame, as I've 2 days left, and we come back to work after Chistmas on a Thursday, so that would have been perfect. 😕


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:12 pm
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We can't

I have 30 hours left too and there's no availability (been asking for weeks)

B.O.W


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:13 pm
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Allowed to carry 5 over, but don't trust 'em anymore so make sure I take them all.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:13 pm
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Up to 12 days here.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:19 pm
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12 automatically, more if my line manger approves it


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:21 pm
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Yep, up to five days. The boss likes us to have a plan in place to use them by the end of Q1 though.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:21 pm
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surely if you have entitlement but they won't let you take it because of staffing rotas, etc., then they have to let you carry over or pay you for the extra hours?


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:22 pm
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5 days


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:22 pm
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That's interesting, thanks. So based on my comprehensive survey most employers allow some sort of carry over 🙂

I'm in the "line manager with discretion" position. I've had my first ever request from a team member and I can't see any reason not to allow it. So long as there are limits on how can accrued, why wouldn't it be OK?

@Houns - that's really crap. The employer surely has to let you (or pay you in lieu)


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:22 pm
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5 days here


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:27 pm
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why wouldn't it be OK?

As a manager and depending on the nature of your business you need to decide the impact of having X number of employees not working for Y number of extra days next year.

Once decided, you need to live with the decision and its effectb on any results.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:30 pm
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10 days carry over here (public sector), if refused by management you have right to be "payed up" at 1/365th of your salary for every day refused.
Plus can accumulate up to 3 working days flexi time/month, so this year I had the usual 30 days, 10 carried over from last year and 36 flexi days 😀


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:31 pm
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10 days carry over here (public sector), if refused by management you have right to be "payed up" at 1/365th of your salary for every day refused.
Plus can accumulate up to 3 working days flexi time/month, so this year I had the usual 30 days, 10 carried over from last year and 36 flexi days

Here we go. I believe the standard quote is, "this will not end well..."

Please don't tell us you're in the fire service


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:37 pm
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Up to 5 days here with group director approval but it has to be taken within the 1st 4 months of the following year.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:38 pm
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why wouldn't it be OK?

What Kryton said, ours is determined by the expected workload Dec Vs Jan-March, if it's busier end of this year then caryover, if not then take a long christmas break.

Also theres a legal minimum holiday requirement, so if you carryover holliday you might not have taken enough thos year to fulfill the criteria.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:38 pm
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I missed three weeks of AL this year - rotas already in place. I was told that I couldn't carry any days over.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:46 pm
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I appreciate there are commercial considerations to whether to allow carry-over and I've thought those through. However I'm equally concerned to be flexible and reasonable with people. I don't want to cheese valuable staff off (we're software developers) by being dog in the manger about something like this, even if we take a short term hit on productivity.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:57 pm
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We're allowed 3 days, and to be taken within January.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 3:57 pm
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Letting people carry over is sometimes preferable to the alternative depending on work deadlines. I've just had someone join my team on an internal transfer. I've got a deadline in January and the team member just told me that she didn't manage to take holiday in previous role as she was "too busy" so would I mind if she took most of December off....

I like Willards model of 5 days but plan to use it by the end of 1Q which is our corporate policy. Any more and I think you're just projecting a problem into the future (which I may do with the above example)


 
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I appreciate there are commercial considerations to whether to allow carry-over and I've thought those through. However I'm equally concerned to be flexible and reasonable with people. I don't want to cheese valuable staff off (we're software developers) by being dog in the manger about something like this, even if we take a short term hit on 8)productivity.

Absolutely right. Its your call, your the boss. But if you start being criticsed over that drop in productivity by your Snr's, you'd better have a plan to get it back up, because the "I wanted to be nice to my valuable team" excuse often but not always means nothing to the bean counters.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 4:10 pm
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Absolutely right. Its your call, your the boss. But if you start being criticsed over that drop in productivity by your Snr's, you'd better have a plan to get it back up, because the "I wanted to be nice to my valuable team" excuse often but not always means nothing to the bean counters.

I will blame my professional advisers.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 4:19 pm
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My contract states 5 but I asked really nicely and they let me carry over 7


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 4:26 pm
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We can carry 5 but must use by the end of January or lose it.

The reasoning in our case is that we encourage staff to have a decent amount of holiday during the year due to a high stress job. We actually want people to take time off, so in an ideal world, nobody should have any left by the end of the year.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 4:52 pm
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can carry 5 over but they must be used by the end of Q1...


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 4:53 pm
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5 days here. I always go away for a week in January anyway even if there was a timescale for using them (which there isn't) I'd be fine. I do tend to carry the 5 days over every year.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 4:56 pm
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5 days but I have to beg


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 4:59 pm
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Up to 7 I think here, although they can be flexible (i.e if you take some leave in the first month of the new business year)


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 4:59 pm
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Allowed to carry 5 days over. Meant to use it by a certain date but no one ever does.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 5:00 pm
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I carried 15 over in April this year, my office manager didn't want to let me take more than 5, but I put a compelling case together that involved losing a client providing 30% of the office annual turnover and my request was agreed.


 
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Absolutely right. Its your call, your the boss. But if you start being criticsed over that drop in productivity by your Snr's, you'd better have a plan to get it back up, because the "I wanted to be nice to my valuable team" excuse often but not always means nothing to the bean counters.

Productivity does not equal Days sat in the office. Pissed off disgruntled demotivated staff are not nice to have about the place.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 5:12 pm
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Agree with Goeffj as well. Depending on ones employer this is often an easy or difficult balance to make.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 5:53 pm
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None normally (new policy) but I've been allowed to carry 5 over due to impending arrival of wreckerjnr.......
If I were not permitted to take them due to workloads, I'd just take get the time back by another means (sick, skive etc)
There's no way I'd just give them 30 hours, and no way I'd expect any of my reports to lose out.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 6:01 pm
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We're allowed to carry over 5 but they have to be used by the end of April (Our annual leave year starts at the beginning of April).


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 7:27 pm
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yes, uop to 5 days, and you can up to 5 days paid back.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 7:34 pm
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Here we go. I believe the standard quote is, "this will not end well..."

Please don't tell us you're in the fire service

No, an obscure part of the civil service, I do 9-10 hour days but there's an overtime payment ban so the extra hours build up to silly amounts of flexi time 😕


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 7:39 pm
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(public sector)

we can carry over 40 hours (work shifts so leave etc calculated and taken/awarded in hours not days).


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 7:50 pm
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Reason most employers restrict carry over is financial - carried over holiday is an accrual on the balance sheet, so has a direct impact on P&L,

Which is why most business who permit the carry over also require them ti be used by year end.


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 8:13 pm
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in my job it's upto 13 days annual leave carry forward now (IOM Civil Service) plus we have upto 18 days flexi leave each year. nice when the tracks start 2 miles from work 🙂


 
Posted : 15/11/2013 8:53 pm
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Not allowed for me, don't really understand why, our busiest time is nov/dec, quietest is jan/feb.


 
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