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Check this bad boy out ! On my car keys...all you really need if at all.
Been quite handy over the years 🙂
Epic tomato slicer...
This mostly only ever opened morale parcels, banding on pallets and bags of haribo.
Might have sliced some biltong once or twice. The only blood it drew was of a careless owner and a chicken on a SERE course.
These days I just have a spork.
Halcyon days for sure. 
This thread has been great, could easily have stopped after 10 posts but we're on 10 pages and I hope it goes for another 10.
For what it's worth as a country boy I quite often carry a knife and it regularly comes in handy. I do struggle to see how it could be justified if living in a town/city. I'm down to my last folding knife that locks open and when I break/lose it I fully intend to buy another from somewhere. I'm fully aware it's illegal but I don't care, it annoys me that I should have to risk a knife closing on my fingers because a minority of people feel the need to stab each other.
I’m fully aware it’s illegal but I don’t care, it annoys me that I should have to risk a knife closing on my fingers because a minority of people feel the need to stab each other
Hear, hear!
This thread may help people understand how all the responsible gun owners in the USA feel when people call for gun controls.
It makes me think that they're unhinged.
This thread may help people understand how all the responsible gun owners in the USA feel when people call for gun controls.
As a former responsible gun owner. No.
LAT
Full Member
This thread may help people understand how all the responsible gun owners in the USA feel when people call for gun controls.
I can pretty much guarantee that even the murderous ones think they are responsible gun owners, until they aren't.
It's human nature, just like everyone thinks they are great/safe car drivers.
For the sake of the baby Jesus won’t somebody think of the screwdrivers?
Sometimes a big knife is not enough.
What about Mugs?
Those Bikepakers and their Ti mugs, makes you think 🙂
^^ Damn good film that, much underrated. 👍
somafunk
Full Member
For the sake of the baby Jesus won’t somebody think of the screwdrivers?
Don't start of the great phillips Vs cross head debate for goodness sakes!
Having reviewed the contributions so far
John the farmer and Ian the telecoms engineer have a fairly decent reason for carrying a knife
Steve in accounts and Jeff in IT Support probably don't, and Daphne from payroll is definitely less likely to shag them after they've whipped out the leatherman to cut up their tomatoes and cheese on their lunch break
and Daphne from payroll is definitely less likely to shag them after they’ve whipped out the leatherman to cut up their tomatoes and cheese on their lunch break
I've got a personal affection for my Boker which is a gentleman's knife, as it is only 2 1/2" blade, and a cyclists knife as it is titanium. It's also illegal because it's A lock knife bit you can't have everything.
Ok, to be honest I'm not that concerned to tell everyone about it, but I do need to find out if I can actually post to this forum, this seemed as good as any for an excuse.
^^ Indeed you can/ have and welcome!👍
I think you might need a doctor gecko76. You seem to be suffering from cartoon head syndrome.
You might want to check the legality of the swordstick, they made a bunch of blades illegal even in your own house a while back 🙄
Yep, sword sticks are in the same category as 'Zombie' knives, switch blades etc. Illegal to own, sell etc. with heavy penalties. There is an exemption for antiques though, which means more than 100 years old. I'm not sure how you prove how old it is and unless you have some pretty convincing proof you could be in deep poo.
How can STW come to this? The home of the totally irrational fairness. Now tell me, is it fair that some people would have justifiable needs and others not based purely on their jobs? How elitist!.
More sensibly why not ban knives in the places where they have proved to be a problem and for the user group that creates the problems?
The whole thing also goes against the principles of our law as well. Basically you are guilty unless you prove your innocence.
The whole thing also goes against the principles of our law as well. Basically you are guilty unless you prove your innocence
So, you think if you were standing outside a bank wearing a ski mask & carrying a shotgun & a bag marked ‘swag’ the law would say the police need to prove you were intending to rob it.
To summarise we have a certain demographic who are arguing they are above the law because they are in the main white, middle aged, middle class and don’t live in a rough area.
Is that about right or are they arguing knife laws should be repealed just in case they need to peel an apple on the go?
You see the law applies equally and if you can argue peeling an apple as a legitimate reason so should anyone regardless of demographic.
the meantime mum pulled grandad’s swordstick out of the wardrobe
A bit of family loving.
More sensibly why not ban knives in the places where they have proved to be a problem and for the user group that creates the problems?
I Agree. Ban them in public places.
I Agree. Ban them in public places.
Unless you have a legitimate reason to need one in a public place.
(sorry, enjoying this too much to let it die yet)
Now tell me, is it fair that some people would have justifiable needs and others not based purely on their jobs?
Yes.
I need a laptop for my job but I dont generally need a knife.
A chef on the other hand would struggle without several.
To summarise we have a certain demographic who are arguing they are above the law because they are in the main white, middle aged, middle class and don’t live in a rough area.
You might see it that way, but what I think they are saying is that a knife is a useful, commonplace tool & is therefore a reasonable thing to carry as an everyday object. However it is used by some people as a weapon even though it is highly unlikely to be used by others as such. It is therefore reasonable to identify those people who use it as a weapon & apply the law to them & not to the others. I have a degree of sympathy for this because in a lot of cases it should be fairly evident given the context which category the person sits.
The fact of the matter is that a white, middle aged & middle class person is unlikely to be carrying a knife as a weapon (unless they are planning a specific murder). The statistics demonstrate who is using knives as weapons to stab random strangers or opposition gang members etc in the course of an argument.
Unfortunately this line of thought leads to an awful lot of these exceptions: not prosecuting competent, safe & yet speeding drivers being an obvious one. It also leads to miscarriages of justice when a working class black kid gets pulled for carrying a knife he was going to use on a Golden Delicious.
I'm a 55 year old furniture maker. When i'm wearing my work costume, I always have a 3" Festool lock knife in my pocket...and I don't give a flying f@ck. End of
*Pictures PolisherMan in his 'costume'
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With his 3" Festool in his pocket
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The thread has been an interesting insight into mindsets certainly.
I think it'd be not unreasonable to sweep up all the 'angry at the world', anti this sort of law and it's curtailing of MY freedoms into an older male category. A 'boomer' or even 'gammon' label if you will. It's easy to see why this category of society have such a reputation for self orientation.
This is a classic of the genre...
I’m a 55 year old furniture maker. When i’m wearing my work costume, I always have a 3″ Festool lock knife in my pocket…and I don’t give a flying f@ck. End of
Man doing something totally legal (because of context) who 'don’t give a flying f@ck'. Go you, you rebel without a cause. Not just that - 'End of' no less. Nothing more to say. Angry at the world for a law that has been crafted to allow exactly what he's doing to be perfectly fine. I can't tell if it's because he's too daft to appreciate it's all good, too lazy to bother reading more to find out.....or just predisposed to be angry.
Anyway, it lovely and sunny so I'm off for a gravel bike ride. Gravel - that'll make someone angry too no doubt, should have said 90's mtb ride. And.....nope....can't think of a good reason why I'll need a knife. I'll report back and confirm I survived without having needed to slice a tomato, whittle a stick or molest a horse's hoof and been left tragically bereft of the tools for the job.
I think it’d be fair to sweep up all the ‘angry at the world’, anti this sort of law and it’s curtailing of MY freedoms into an older male category.
Nah. Don’t agree with that. This happens across every generation, it’s just that it’s framed in a slightly different way. When you are young this is known as Sticking it to the Man
Unless you have a legitimate reason to need one in a public place.
Good idea. Why haven’t the government thought of this?
Meanwhile in the mini kitchen of the IT department at ...
Next episode.... To follow... Open to all 🙂
Without these laws we would not have this.
You might see it that way, but what I think they are saying is that a knife is a useful, commonplace tool & is therefore a reasonable thing to carry as an everyday object.
It doesn’t matter how I see it but what the law states. Thinking you can pick and choose to comply is the heart of the debate. If you think the law is an ass start a campaign to change it but ignoring it based on your belief I won’t get caught because of who I am needs challenging.
", I always have a 3″ Festool lock knife"
Festool make lock knives? Are they any good?
"Without these laws we would not have this"
That is pretty cool to be honest, though a bit scary at the same time to think there was that much weaponry out there on the streets
Anyway, more importantly, without these laws I wouldn't have got my first 10 page thread wot I started so there!
Yup it is and there’s more than that.
Congratulations. I’ll see if the STW have any croissants they can send you.
Phoned 101 and, surprisingly, they had a think and said it’s OK to keep the swordstick in the house. Not to give away, sell, trade or carry in public.
@gecko76 I'd be tempted to get a second opinion if were you, the consequences of getting this wrong could mess your life up. Knife law is complex and it wouldn't be impossible for a 101 call handler to inadvertently give out misleading advice. They aren't legal experts. Have a look at the official advice on this gov.uk site.
Banned knives and weapons
If a knife or weapon is listed in the following table, it’s illegal to:
- possess it
- bring it into the UK
- sell or hire it out
- lend or give it to someone
The table mentioned (full details in the link above) very clearly lists sword sticks as banned. The penalty for having one can be up to 4 years in prison or an unlimited fine. You'll note if your mum has given it to you, she has also (potentially) commited an offence. It may be if you can prove it is over 100 years old you are OK. Maybe! I'd even be tempted to ask the mods to delete your posts until you've resolved this. At the very least, phone your local police, speak to an actual police officer, not civilian staff. If they say you can keep it, take a note of their details.
Good luck 👍
Also, and this may affect others, these are relatively recent law changes which may have passed people by.
Offensive weapons act 2019 which has been amended a couple of times since, most recently last month!
Things which were perfectly legal to own just a few years ago, now aren't and you may not have realised. This includes a lot of decorative swords (blade over 50cm), machetes ( as of January this year) etc.
Wonder how much compensation they will pay for tools that are no longer legal to own
Which 'tools' are you refering to that are no long legal to own?