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Seems the corner of a farmers field near to my village has become a storage site for several vehicles, including a camper van and a caravan. The location is quite hidden away, not visible from the very quiet lane that passes it and you have to cross a non-public accessable field to know anything is there. I'm occasionally a little naughty and exercise my unofficial right to roam with my dogs past the area and I'm sure people are actually living there rather than just the farmer parking up equipment, it's hard to know for sure without trespassing and I'm obviously a little wary of traipsing into what is maybe an unofficial traveller camp.
Wondering what the legalities of this situation are? Surely the farmer can't just let out his field and turn it into an encampment, I'm pretty sure if people are living there it'll be with his permission rather than a travelling folk invasion situation.
The location is quite hidden away, not visible from the very quiet lane that passes it and you have to cross a non-public accessable field to know anything is there.
So what was the issue again?
Is there a dawg involved?
Sounds like it might be in his back yard and that's not on.
Let it be surely. Nothing worse than a nimby.
Can't see an issue myself, unless you start getting stuff nicked off your washing line.....
Fwiw a 2 stroke generator made a chap who was blocking a passing place on our road with his camper re-evaluate his parking place after declaring it was public land so he wouldn't be moving......(not even to the openly accepted woodland carpark just a little further up the road)
Not an issue currently, at most there could only be a few people there, and there's definitely a dawg. For all those shouting nimby, what size traveller park a few hundred yards from your house would be okay?
The question was about legalities, surely if it was legal people would just buy up cheap agricultural land and stick a mobile dwelling on it. Guess it's a question of fairness as much as anything. It's a nice spot and a relatively scrote free area, don't see why anyone should get to live here for free when the rest of us don't.
If you want to know because you are interested in doing something similar then go strike up a conversation and ask them. If you want to know so you can go gossiping and complaining to authorities then mind your own business.
For all those shouting nimby, what size traveller park a few hundred yards from your house would be okay?
Up to the size where it became an actual problem.
don’t see why anyone should get to live here for free when the rest of us don’t.
Do your guests pay to visit you or spend the night?
It's a 'dag', not a 'dawg'. Get your film references right!
For all those shouting nimby, what size traveller park a few hundred yards from your house would be okay?
Whilst my personal experience of various "travelling communities" has been 100% unfavourable to date,
Surely this depends whether they were being antisocial arseholes, robbing everything in sight and leaving the place a shit-tip or not. If they weren't, meh, who cares. There's nothing in your OP to suggest something other than "ZOMG there's some people you can't easily find!" If it's on private land then it's the landowner's problem.
don’t see why anyone should get to live here for free when the rest of us don’t.
Nothing's stopping you from doing the same, is there? Go find yourself a caravan and a friendly farmer.
Not after an argument rene59. Does it have to be an actual problem before I ask a question? This isn't a situation I've come across before and I'm actually interested in how the laws of the land work.
If you don't know and just fancy an internet argument can I politely suggest you find another thread?
Could be the farmer giving accommodation to some of his employees . Lots of farmers used to do that when I lived in Kent.
Or it could be modern slavery in action, who knows, I guess get in touch with the council and see if it's legit...
<p>I’m occasionally a little naughty and exercise my unofficial right to roam with my dogs past the area </p>
<p>So basically you had to go out your way to find something that otherwise wouldn't be on anyones radar...</p>
<p>I’m sure people are actually living there rather than just the farmer parking up equipment, it’s hard to know for sure without trespassing </p>
<p>...with absolutely no basis for your complaint other than your own imagination...</p>
<p>Surely the farmer can’t just let out his field and turn it into an encampment</p>
<p>...and I'm pretty sure he can do exactly that, fire regs notwithstanding.</p>
Fwiw unless he has permission he can't just dump caravans on agriculture land for more than a very small number of weeks a year.
Christ there's some touchy buggers on here. But thank you for at least attempting to answer the original question, I can't remember complaining.
Surely it's a matter of planning permission though? Which is why land with permission for a dwelling is worth 10 times agricultural land?
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Thanks trail rat, that's what I was getting at.
Or it could be modern slavery in action, who knows, I guess get in touch with the council and see if it’s legit…
This was my first thought too, rather than travellers (though the two can go together).
There's a lot of it about, apparently.
If you’re concerned, contact your local planning dept. They would require planning permission for the case you describe, which they may or may not have. Might even be possible to check online.
Two questions,
What make of caravans? (German makes are a travellers fave)
Single or twin axles?
Are there any Transit pickups with greedy boards/'Tree Surgeon' logo's on the side or any with 'Paddy O'reilly, tarmac specialists' written on?
That was three questions actually.
don’t see why anyone should get to live here for free when the rest of us don’t.
I've got some green cheese, would you like some? 😆