[Closed] Car Envy.

This isn't going to go well.

What's an S 5 ?

Mmm, not car envy but after attending a recent demo day and ragging round a 5010, Bronson and Nomad my 6.5 year old Heckler felt very very outdated and meh!!! Now I love my bike to bits but .... well it's days are numbered 🙁

bikebouy - Member
What's an S 5 ?

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Supercharged V6 333bhp 4WD Auto/paddle, all the toys

You'll not fit your muddy XC bike in the back of an S5

It's alright you can sleep at night knowing one day someone will pull up alongside him in an RS5. Or and RS4. Or even an RS3. That's the car he should of bought.

Coming badly parked to a supermarket carpark near you soon....... 😉

Bikes I can understand but cars... I work on them all day, plus I dislike driving plus my pal has RR wrath/Aston DB9 v12 and a Lamborghini huracan and I could lend any of them but never bother... Genuinely not interested in the slightest.

Ah, I see.

Ok from the front, but the rear always reminds me of an old mans Jaaaaag.

A lease on that must be <£600pcm, so in reach?

Also, whilst a nice place to be, the first muddy tyre splat in the back and you'd end up cleaning that all weekend instead of riding.
Oh, is it a hatch? Useless otherwise.

What ever happened to your anti-consumerism bent of a while ago OP?

Didn't you also post one about not liking your job? The one that pays for all the stuff?

You'll not fit your muddy XC bike in the back of an S5

Yes you will. Seats go flat and although shallow it's a big boot. I really wanted an A5, but none of the models really appeal these days. S5 is just a bit too expensive. Love the styling personally though.

[quote=bikebouy ]What's an S 5 ?

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HTH

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You know you want to.

Well. I sat in an i8 today.

I sat in an RS6 today, wishing I was in the Tesla in front of us.

Just checked, lease pcp £434, business £362.

Bargain.

I got the bus 🙁

[i]Car envy[/i]

Even if I got such a thing, I'd be far too embarrassed to tell anybody!

I can (just) see appeal of this, mainly because it's a) an estate & b) it's orange.

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bikebouy - Member
Just checked, lease pcp £434, business £362.

He used `freedom finance lease, got them to match the business number - £338.

cynic-al - Member
What ever happened to your anti-consumerism bent of a while ago OP?

Didn't you also post one about not liking your job? The one that pays for all the stuff?

Not anti consumerism so much, but mindfulness, slightly different. Don't worry, I'm not fretting enough to jump out and buy one, but I know a nice object when I see one.

Re the job, I started a new job in January and have been extremely busy / happy with it until the recent realisation / activity of men not making my H1 number kicked in. I'm pretty miserable about it but I know I can't take my foot off the gas as things could change in the next 6 months. I'm not quite early years Chris Gardner yet.

I can (just) see appeal of this

RS4/6 is my dream everyday/bike car.

Had a go in a colleague's wee BMW last night, an M135i... Good fun but not as nice a place to sit as my scabby mondeo and no room for bikes, she's welcome to it.

Thing about cars for me is rightness. I'd love a spec b legacy estate, or a rusty vauxhall viva or magnum and a garage, and I wouldn't say no to a less shagged mondingo but as far as fitness for purpose goes a scabby disposable mondeo is pretty ideal for me.

I just want a clean one.

my car felt like a neglected Lada to drive home.

And this is a bad thing?

8)

And some people worry about being over-biked. The problem with a nice Audi like that is that it is so big, plush, comfy and detached from the road you have to be going at serious speed to get any sort of thrill out of it. But then again I am becoming an old fart. 10 years ago i'd probably have been drooling over it myself.

Glad the jobs going well, your riding (so you've posted) is too.

Pretty good half year all in then.

I got a cheeky smile from a nice lass in an S1 this morning, so Audis are fine by me 🙂

It will have a door opened on it soon enough. I will never spend 5 figures on a car ever again because other people just don't give a **** about them.

Pretty good half year all in then

Lol! Hold on though bikebouy: Under my number = no commission. Biking = ok theres a lot of people worse off, but I've a lack of riding the and my results aren't better than 2015.

So, too much work, not enough biking and basic salary only. Be a long while before the RS4 makes an appearance in my garage. 🙂 ah **** it, who needs more than a beer and a pizza eh?!

Paid in cash or leased?

I was chatting to a bloke about his nearly new Porsche Cayenne a few weeks ago and asked him about its economy etc and he told me it was a lease car and costing him £650 a month and he was struggling a bit. Apparently alot of posh cars in Manchester are leased by people stretching themselves etc to get into one.

I don't see the appeal. Family members will know you live at home/in rented accommodation or your lying to them and total strangers don't know you from Adam or eve. Bizarre.

Ok, no worse than 2015 then 😐

Beer and pizza, food of the Gods 😉

Yeh I've had hot hatches and luxo barges, now just an econo·Box... cars are just tools to do a job to me now, the appeal of a fancy car just isn't there for me, especially at £650 per month!

If I was earning 50k a year id probably be swanning around in a jag, just because..but then would I?, id probably invest the money and drive something cheaper, thinking about it.

Car Envy is a game not worth playing IMO.

Not a bad price though, just don't think I could get on with the poor handling of an Audi

Isn't an RS4 pretty much everyones dream every day car?
There's other things on the shopping list first though, like a double garage for the n+1 bikes, and a dedicated turbo pain cave.

How much deposit did he pay. I'm guessing several grand.

I've read that r spec audis have fairly crippling service and maintenance costs, im not sure you could describe them as an every day car!

My boss rocked up in a new black S5 today and showed me around it. It looks very nice. As a result my car felt like a neglected Lada to drive home.

Yup thats a lot of car for £45k, quattro too

I've a friend just ordered a Q7 which is £60+ that I thought was a bit nuts. Audi you can get 10% p+ off at the moment

Don't bosses get stupid spendy just before the business tanks? I'm sure I read that somewhere, polish that C.V.

The only new car owner I envy is whoever it is I see cruising about the local town in his deep red Tesla Model S. Such a nice looking car, and peanuts to run (which probably balances out the astronomical purchase price).

Apart from that, I find it sheer lunacy to fork out what some folk do on new cars when there's almost always an equivalent available on the 2nd hand market.

That's three years of comfortable retirement, must be very rich to afford that for transport.

I've read that r spec audis have fairly crippling service and maintenance costs, im not sure you could describe them as an every day car!

Take it to your local Skoda/VAG indie. Job jobbed

Routine service £630. God knows what a full one will cost with additions!

[i]That's three years of comfortable retirement, must be very rich to afford that for transport. [/i]

I'm guessing you're over 50 too?

Last year I was looking at changing my car and considering spending +£25k, when it dawned on me that it equated to having to work for another year - I want to be retired before I'm 60, not past 60.

Anyway shhhhh....moley will be along soon to tell us we should all be driving 1.0L cars.

[I]I've read that r spec audis have fairly crippling service and maintenance costs, im not sure you could describe them as an every day car![/I]

When I looked at a s/h V10 S6 a few years ago one of the items on the bills that came with it was a pair of discs and pads, over £900...

Last year I was looking at changing my car and considering spending +£25k, when it dawned on me that it equated to having to work for another year - I want to be retired before I'm 60, not past 60.

You might be dead next year....enjoy it while you can! 8)

[quote=Northwind ]as far as fitness for purpose goes a scabby disposable mondeo is pretty ideal for me.

That's the thing isn't it? Just done a 300 mile motorway trip today, and TBH it's hard to beat as a place to sit for doing that - what's more, mine is "scabby" as you describe yours, which makes it a lot easier to push your way into queues, as it gives off the impression that you're not going to be too worried about a little contact.

I've read that r spec audis have fairly crippling service and maintenance costs,

My riding buddy let me sit in his Aventador and blip the throttle . Then he let me do the same in his Huracan ( but not his other Huracan that he races in GT3) but I'm not really fussed about cars. Of the 2 of us I'm the one fulfilling my youthful dreams .

He's good enough to concede that a Huracan is really an R8 with a very very expensive body kit.

A friend of mine had a S5. The gearbox started to have issues after about 3/4 years, out of warranty period. Cost for a new one £8k. He got a good used one fitted for a couple of £k and got rid sharpish. He then bought an RS5. Bonkers.

Hmmm not sure whether to post here. Ordered my dream car (turns up in July -first ever new car) which is by any means a stupidly expensive irrational purchase but you only live once. I guess many people will think it's nuts but what the hell. Did get a special order roof rack so I can take the bikes with me 🙂

What did you order?

tonyg2003 - Member
Hmmm not sure whether to post here. Ordered my dream car (turns up in July -first ever new car) which is by any means a stupidly expensive irrational purchase but you only live once. I guess many people will think it's nuts but what the hell. Did get a special order roof rack so I can take the bikes with me

It would've looked less of a "look at me" post if you'd actually said what you've ordered

It's alright, not as good as a Berlingo, but it's no Maserati.

I looked at an early 2000's RS6 avant a few years back. Awesome car, ridiculously fast and at the end of the day a practical estate, But then I looked into the running costs. Hi crumba. Every service the previous owner had carried out didn't come in less than £1500 by the time all the 'While we're in there' extra's were added on. A front brake and disc replacement came in at £1400 and they were Steel, and a 35k mile timing belt change came in at over £2k as you have to strip half the front end down just to gain access to the front of the engine. So that was the end of that little idea!

Watching TG at the weekend about the Focus RS - seems a bargain at £30k for a sub 5 second 0-60 car, but sub 0-60 cars won't be cheap to run, even at Ford prices.

All of a sudden that £6k Yeti dream bike is looking more and more of a good deal! That's cheaper than the first year depreciation of a big German Autobahn stormer.

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mmmmm, S5

I am just sitting here smugly with a car that is worth one service of a posh Audi, that does 25k a year in comfort with 7 seats.

I can't remember when I last did a 0-60 from a standstill. Pedal to the metal it was probably the last rally I did. You're not supposed to stop on dual carriage ways and motorways and the local speed limit on main roads is less than 60.

Kryton - look in the mirror. You've posted pics of yourself on an MTB so I know you're not a bloated, burnt-out, unsexy middle manager trying to prop up his ego. You don't need this tasteless tat in your life so just spend as little as it takes to get a car that is practical, reliable, produces the least toxic crap possible and is no more luxurious than your living room furniture (I've noted some people spend more on a trim upgrade than they spend on their marital matress). Seriously.

Not sure what you mean, it's not my car, and as I said I've no determination to rush out and buy one. I was merely posting as I couldn't help admiring it. You know I drive a small albeit noxious hatch back with cloth seats don't you?

I meant you've no need to be envious. Perhaps the guy should be envious of you.

Ah. Perhaps the title of my post should be "Car admiration". TBH I was a bit envious when I saw it, but I'm developing myself out of these feelings as previously indicated.

I think you can appreciate an object for what it is without desiring to own it, its just an applied mental change assuming you were formerly minded that way in the first place.

There are other options......

http://www.fairviewplasticsurgery.com/just-for-men/male-cosmetic-genital-surgery/penile-lengthening

Keep up the good work. Before long when you see an S5 powering out of a roundabout and over the zebra crossing as pedestrians wait you'll be thinking "anti-social polluting **** in his shitty AK47 Panzerwagen putting peoples lives in danger an squandering resources". 8)

fifeandy - Member
Isn't an RS4 pretty much everyones dream every day car?

Not even close, have you been in one? They are so small and uncomfortable. Not been in an RS4 but an A4 Sline. I honestly couldn't believe how cramped it was. We had a couple of bike bags that I just threw in my Focus estate without even thinking about it. Tried to transfer them over into the A4 Avant and they would not fit. Even the boot on the A6 is not that generous, maybe just the shape though.
But even sitting in the A4 feels cramped its almost like the seats are too bulky for the size of car. If I wanted or could afford a fast estate the RS4 would not be my choice.

fifeandy - Member
Isn't an RS4 pretty much everyones dream every day car?
Not even close, have you been in one? They are so small and uncomfortable. Not been in an RS4 but an A4 Sline. I honestly couldn't believe how cramped it was. We had a couple of bike bags that I just threw in my Focus estate without even thinking about it. Tried to transfer them over into the A4 Avant and they would not fit. Even the boot on the A6 is not that generous, maybe just the shape though.
But even sitting in the A4 feels cramped its almost like the seats are too bulky for the size of car. If I wanted or could afford a fast estate the RS4 would not be my choice.

This seems to be a 'thing' with cars nowadays. So big, yet so cramped. I do most of my miles in my van and find it much nicer than pretty much any car.
Only family car I really lust over at the mo is a VW Caddy Maxi life. Mrs bedmaker not ready for the mobility look yet though 🙂
I've tried explaining it's so uncool it's cool but it's not go through yet..

Edukator has it.

Although, a clubmate gave me a lift back from the club dinner (I was too pissed to ride home) in his Audi estate with Lmaborghini engine thing. I thought it was hilarious (that might've been the booze); I'd put the bike in the back thinking it was some clattery diesel repmobile but the way it accelerated from 100kmh was astonishing, probably faster than the GSXR I used to have.

[i]You might be dead next year....enjoy it while you can! [/i]

Been there when I was younger, had loads of big-engine cars and plenty of big fast bikes, plus raised three lads to working age - now in my 50's and looking forward to the second half of my life.

And yes, my car is worth less than my bike - but works fine, only last month it did a 1000 miles round trip with work, and is used every day.

You know I drive a small albeit noxious hatch back with cloth seats don't you?

What happened to your heritage Italian lush-wagon and matching shades? You were living the dream. And now? Reduced to leching after another man's over-engineered, identitikit ego pram. It's all so bloody sad.

What happened? And can I have the sunglasses please? 😐

Agreed - I had an A4 2008 S line, bloody tiny. Good in the front, miniscule in the back (couldn't get a baby seat behind me driving!). That was with the big leather seats which I'm sure take up more room. Boot was OKish
There's nearly as much legroom in the back and useable boot space in my little BMW 1 series now.

Still love the RS4 though, it's just not a big load carrier.

Think my next car will be a BMW 435D Gran Coupe though, that brilliant drive train with 5 doors, hatch back and 4 wheel drive. That'd do nicely.

Reduced to leching

I'm not letching, and you may call it "reduced" but I'm happy with my life, thanks.

And can I have the sunglasses please?

I left those in a Caribbean Hotel toilet on top of the bog roll holder, they weren't there when I went back to look.

I like your line, Edukator.

I've read that r spec audis have fairly crippling service and maintenance costs, im not sure you could describe them as an every day car!

The running costs are eye watering - my uncle had a V10 RS6 that went into Audi with some brake issue (steel). It needed new discs and pads all round plus four new callipers and a minor oil leak sorting....£7k later!!! It went not long after that. It was massively impressive but not that lovable compared to the previous RS4. Major drink problem too - 11mpg when I had a spin.

I'd love a B6 RS4 (first of the V8's) but they're not that useful with the nice bucket seats which eat into what little rear leg room there is plus the running costs can be bad once the suspension needs sorting.

I like cars, so if people can afford a nice once, fair play. There's enough people who will look at what people spend on bikes, guitars etc and think that's mental.

Kryton57 - Member
Reduced to leching
[i]I'm not letching, and you may call it "reduced" but I'm happy with my life, thanks.[/i]

And can I have the sunglasses please?
[i]I left those in a Caribbean Hotel toilet on top of the bog roll holder, they weren't there when I went back to look.[/i]

I was only joking, Captain Grumpy 🙂 It is, they are, all, just cars. Cars are not life. Or satisfaction. Or status. They are just shiny tin-boxes with wheels on the corners and something that makes the wheels go round. Even nice cars, which that godforsaken Audi is arguably not, are just cars... things.

Tend not to be envious of any cars

Working as I do on a [s]febrile industrial estate[/s] business park there are literally thousands of cars here that at best I'm ambivalent about and many that I actively dislike

I think you have to move in different circles to be truly envious and for me at least, they're just other people's cars.

A lot of audi hating on here... Realistically they are almost exactly the same size and capability as the similar BMW/Mercedes in the range.

I've got an A4 estate now and personally think it's a great motor, will be having another one when the time comes unless BMW/Merc up their game on a technology point of view. After driving variants from all three the BMW was the best to drive and the merc was the most comfortable but the Audi had a good line in the middle.

When I have the topside of £15k 'spare', I might just consider one of these...

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My wife has an A4 "sportback" or something

I find it claustrophobic and not much fun to drive. She bloody loves it; actually says so every now & then when we're out in it.

err, no, that's it - no point at all

I've owned, in the past, 2 x 530d sport tourings ^^ (like that but just plain shines black) I put 170k on the first one without any problems with it at all, the second one I put 240k on it and again no problems with it at all. Both main dealer serviced and cared for.
I have filled both to the brim with bikes, windsurfing gear, towed yachts around Europe and the U.K. they are colossal machines, understated with all the grunt you'd ever need.

Pfft kids and dog would trash it in hours.

A lease on that must be <£600pcm, so in reach?

Blimey, it's a good job I don't suffer from car envy!