[Closed] Can't decide if Wolffepacks are a genius invention or not

Messenger back surely does all that?

FFS just how hard is it to swing your rucksack round for furtlin in that you need an expensive and tangly cable system instead?

and as ^, a messenger bag swings round on demand.

File under: Product to address already solved problem in search of a modified problem to solve.

i think it's a pretty good idea but would not pay that price for it

Its no more hassles to take rucksack off than to drop your seat but convenience is a wonderful thing

Lowepro do a similar design of backpack for camera gear, swings aewwound the front, folds forwars and opens the back pannel. I've also got one from Decathlon, but TBH it's rubbish, one of the shoulder straps has a magnetic buckle so you release that which lets you spin it round, but the tail of the strap goes through an eyelet and becomes the waist strap so as soon as the buckle is off the waist is loose

It's probably great if wearing bulky snowboarding gear and struggle to get the pack off.

It's hard to see from their website exactly how it works, but I can see the use in such a design.

I've got a couple of the sling camera packs that achieve a similar thing but that does look quite neat.
All depends how much extra weight the mechanism adds, how reliable it is, whether it's as easy to use as it looks and whether it sacrifices any space in the bag itself.

Compared to some cycling or camera packs it doesn't seem that expensive for what you get.

FFS just how hard is it to swing your rucksack round for furtlin in that you need an expensive and tangly cable system instead?

Sorry to pick on you Stoner, I don't even know if you've got a dropper or not, but Junkyard makes a good point...

Just how hard is it to open a QR clamp, drop your post and close the clamp, in that you need an expensive hydraulic system?

Junkyard makes a good point...

The analogy to a dropper post is a poor one if you ask me. A dropper post very effectively solves the problem of (not easily) being able to adjust saddle height whilst riding, which I suspect few of us are able to do with a QR seat post. Granted it's a problem many of us didn't know we had until such a great solution offered itself.

The Wolffepack still appears to require the same number of hands and similar faff to the traditional solution of taking the backpack off and putting it on your front. The more I think about it, the more it seems to be a poor solution to a minor problem.

I don't want it, but I like it

Had to Google that.
What a waste of good googles.
Was it a bet or something?

The Wolffepack still appears to require the same number of hands and similar faff to the traditional solution of taking the backpack off and putting it on your front. The more I think about it, the more it seems to be a poor solution to a minor problem.

I dunno, maybe I'm the only one who struggles to do this on a crowded train without looking like I'm having a fit or getting arrested for inapropriate fondling of the preson next to me. But then again I struggle to get a suit jacket on with any grace too.

If I was off traveling again, or lived somewhere where pickpocketing was a problem then I'd be tempted. Even wandering arround places like Borough market* it'd be usefull rather than having to get a bag on and off.

Price is good when you consider what half decent niche rucksacks sell for (lowepro etc). Having said that, a mini Duff bag costs £12 and does 90% of the job.

*yes it's hipster and therefore not cool to admit to liking it on STW, but getting sozzled on prosecco coctails whilst eating 'street food' and picking up niche nibbles for the evening is a nicer way to spend an hour than Waitrose.

Just make sure you visit The Ginger Pig Company and pick up a Chicken and Tarragon pie.
Dear god them things are a tardis of epic proportions!!

its a great analogy - lower seat post takes one hand lower dropper takes one hand

What it does do is make something easy but [minor] time consumingly annoying easier to do be it seat post dropping or getting a rucksac off to get things out.

Ie not necessary but useful.

lower seat post takes one hand lower dropper takes one hand

However, a dropper can be dropped with one hand without stopping, and can then also be raised back to the right height. Again, without stopping. Use mine more than just at the top of a descent.

Does this reflect on the bag above? Not really. It's pointless! If you need to access things that quickly, use a courier bag. Or chest webbing. Or pockets.

What it does do is make something easy but [minor] time consumingly annoying easier to do be it seat post dropping or getting a rucksac off to get things out.

That's just the thing for me Junkyard, the dropper post undoubtedly makes it easier whereas I see little to suggest the Wolffepack is easier than just taking the rucksack off and putting it on your front. Maybe if I try it I'll see the light 🙂

its a great analogy

I'm not convinced. Dropper posts take an action which is very disruptive and replace it with one which only very slightly disruptive. The Wolffepack takes an action which is a bit disruptive and replaces it with a different action which is, under some circumstances slightly less disruptive. It also looks like it might have issues with durability, stability and looking like you have Johnny 5's shoulder laser installed.

not sure stopping at the top of a hill is very disruptive and bith are minor disruptions.

The Wolffepack takes an action which is a bit disruptive and replaces it with a different action which is, under some circumstances slightly less disruptive.

It also looks like it might have issues with durability, stability .

not sure stopping at the top of a hill is very disruptive

Droppers get used during descents, not just at the top. In some cases, they're used during climbs if there's a tricky drop during it.

I have had a GD for about 6 years and i do agree they are useful- I have two now. .
In use 99% of its use is drop at the top of a hill/descent

maybe I'm the only one who struggles to do this on a crowded train without looking like I'm having a fit

The technique is to remove the rucksack completely and put one arm through the opposite loop so that it sits on your chest instead of your back. Then you can open it and rummage around easily, and see inside it. This can be done whilst walking without breaking stride.

A lot of people seem to want to keep one arm in the normal position, which is a recipe for disaster.

Messenger back surely does all that?

I didn't know I needed one.

Now I really know I don't need one.

just keep the harness and quick release and replace the actual bag bit with a Heckler and Koch MP5 and I'm in.