Does anyone know the above?
Do both wheels need removed etc.
Normally requires some wheels off and stacking or the tailgate pad
Easy for a couple of bikes with a truckman top. More than three it’s easier to take a wheel off. No lid on easy to carry more bikes than passengers.
Unless bikes have shrunk it's wheels off for a UK tax dodge double cab pick up for them in the beds.
American pick up it would be grand.
My mates double cab trojan it's a wheel off, and then it's still gotta kind go diagonally
I'm torn between a pickup and a bloody people carrier as next car/bike transport. Currently manage with a saloon and a 4 bike roof rack, but I'd like something I can pop a bike in the back, upright, with the front wheel off (for mounting to a frame) and the seat dropped (got dropper) - ideally two like this. Just open up and slot a dirty bike or two in back.
Front wheel off and laid diagonally across the bed in my Navara. A tailgate pad is probably best, although you could fashion something behind the cab to fit the forks to with the front wheel off, I guess. There's less room than you think in the UK style double cab pickups. They are all roughly the same size, BTW.
I’m torn between a pickup and a bloody people carrier as next car/bike transport.
Have a search for the previous threads some people live them...
Too many downsides for me.
"although you could fashion something behind the cab to fit the forks to with the front wheel off, I guess"
That'll be fun clambering into the bed to latch them into. What ever you use.
I have a pick up and it's terrible in everyway for bikes how ever it tows a trailer well and is useful for winter but I would not recommend it as a bike vehicle besides the fact it's a land rover it just doesn't take bikes easy- and it's bed is bigger than most double cabs.
I have to take the wheels off to get my bikes into the back of my Trojan Double cab.
My old ranger would take 4 bikes upside down, front wheel off slid in backwards. Seats down obvs. Less of a faff with access through the canopy side windows to prevent rubbing etc.
Easy option is a pallet in the back, jam the front or back wheel between the boards, stands up on its own, turn the bars and shut the tailgate, pop a strap round to keep it in place when you drive. Depends a bit on what you ride, never had any stress, but I’m on 26” medium bikes. If I use any of the vans we have you still need to tie the bike to something to stop it from crashing about in the back. If I’m on my own or one mate we just lie them on top of each other in the back with something between them. No need to tie them down they can’t go anywhere as I have a truckman top.
I’ve got an Amarok double cab. Without a cover on the truck bed I could get my Anthem 29er in by turning the bars and letting the wheel stick out the top. Not exactly secure though! With my hard cover I have to take the front wheel off. I can get a couple of bikes in like that plus all the gear. I suspect you could do more but I’ve never tried.
they arnt great for bikes to be honest but I like it the rest of the time and it’s (as noted above) a cracking tax dodge!
Tax dodge! You mean effective tax managment sir!
Please note all taxes required are paid....
Over tax management soloutions available including but not limited to - pension contributions, entrepreneurs allowance, dividends and fuel benefit in kind.
O/T but how is a pick-up a tax dodge? (Genuine question).
O/T but how is a pick-up a tax dodge? (Genuine question).
You can put them through the books as a commercial vehicle but they are used by most people as a car. The double cab pick-ups fit into a bit of legislation that’s really intended for farmers - being able to carry personnel and livestock (that’s why there’s a barrier between the seats and the load space that you don’t have in a similar 4x4 suv/ station wagon
in any other instance (in the uk) having rear seats and rear windows prevents a definition of ‘van’ in the eyes of the tax man. There’s other criteria about ratios of passenger space to load space (which is why the bed is too short to get a bike into) and gvw and payload weight.
all this only applies you are self employed / ltd company or the vehicle is supplied to you by your employer. If you bought one with you’re own money then I don’t know what you’re excuse is 🙂
Above is true, as a commercial vehicle the business recovers vat and sets against corporation tax (40% ish of the cost of the vehicle)
You could also get the tub measurements of the internet and see how small they are
I have one for towing, launching and recovering a waterski boat. Unfortunately, I lean't this year that you can't reverse into a lake over the door seals in a Navara, despite what I was told 🙁 . Anyway, also use it for biking and I honestly think a large estate or a van is much more useful for a biking vehicle than a pickup. The 2 main reason being that your bike(s) will never be secure and they actually don't fit that easily, even the hard tops can be relatively easily broken into. You can get a bike in the cab, which is the only circumstances I'd be happy leaving the vehicle unattended.
My mate gets a few in the back of his truck, he drives an F150 double cab with an 8 foot truck bed and some sort of Truckman like cover. I realise this is no help at all, if you want bikes in the back of a commercial vehicle with a bit of security buy a van.
I had a Thule (I think) truck bed rack which attached to the tailgate with a couple of straps with wedges on them. It was perfect for two bikes, just popped off the front wheels and then either a qr or adaptor for the forks. Can’t seem to remember where I last saw it though since I sold the pick up.
Best solution I have seen is a load bed cover (mountain top?) with four Thule bike racks attached to it. Bike on top, stuff underneath.
Of course this was a tax management pick up so no need for the bed to be open for carrying hay, or alpacas
Nope
Pick up pad is the right answer if you haven’t got a canopy; literally the simplest way to carry 4-5 mtbs other than a massive van and not massively challenging to secure to at least the ‘deter the opportunist’ level, certainly simpler than trying to make a Thule 591 opportunist proof.
Canopies are a real mixed blessing; they give you a massive (compared to a car), but awkwardly shaped space that has much more limited access, turns the truck into a rubbish van basically.
Another option worth looking into.
Pricey though.
The new long wheelbase Rifter/Berlingo/Vauxhall looks interesting. Rifter being the nicer spec.