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[Closed] Can Ni-cad batteries be saved?

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A the ni-cad batteries of some of my 'less used' cordless tools aren't holding their charge for long at all. They haven't seen a lot of use at all.

Boefore I stump up for new batteries, does anyone know if they can be revived and how to do it?


 
Posted : 09/03/2012 5:29 pm
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With counselling and the help of the Lord, I'm sure they can be helped.

But they have to [i]want[/i] to be saved.


 
Posted : 09/03/2012 5:33 pm
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Never heard of a method for saving them.

Assuming you are fully charging & discharging them then I think it's "game over".


 
Posted : 09/03/2012 6:13 pm
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there is meant to be a way. Never tried it myself but keep meaning to. It involves shorting the NiCad across a car battery for a second a few times. Sounds quite risky hence my reluctance......

Try googling for nicad battery saving or something like that. Lot's of people are selling the instructions on ebay for a couple of pounds, or you can find on some of the powertool forums or DIY forums a link to a site where some kind soul has pasted the instructions.

All the usual disclaimers apply if you do try it though......


 
Posted : 09/03/2012 6:36 pm
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The radio ham guys used to do it by flicking the leads of a higher voltage battery across the Nicads but as large418 says you need to know what you're doing 😯


 
Posted : 09/03/2012 6:40 pm
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Isn't that for when the charger doesn't recognise them though - i.e. they have been completely discharged?

I find that Ni-Cads still respond to the fully charge, fully discharge method. i.e. fully charge them, then leave something rapidly discharging them until they are dead - try and leave it a few seconds and they try to use the last drop of power, until you really can't get any more out of them. Then fully charge them and repeat 3 times.


 
Posted : 09/03/2012 6:42 pm
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It might depend on whats caused them to lose their umph. Repeatedly part-charging them upsets them, they acquire a sort of memory and won't charge past that point. Storing them part charged/uncharged does for them too, in that case its to do (if I remember right) with crystals growing between the elements inside the battery and causing lots of little shorts, so that the battery self-discharges. Although whether the cures for both those instances is the same I'm not sure.

What make of drill is it - NiCad battery packs are a lot cheaper than they used to be, and there are aftermarket one for some of the bigger brands, but not all brands are available still.


 
Posted : 09/03/2012 7:12 pm
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ni-cad batteries stop working because of crystals forming between the plates (im told) this can be fixed by putting an excessive charge through them for a very short time.

what you need is a dc supply much higher then the voltage of the battery, such as an arc welder. there is a sort of technique where you kind of strike at it as if striking a match. maybe 2 or 3 times. the battery must be flat at the start.

obviously this is very dangerous and i therefore dont recommend anyone does it but i have and it did work

here watch this -

edit before the stw pedantic police turn up that is a mig but i only have an arc


 
Posted : 09/03/2012 8:32 pm
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I've tried the applying a car battery across nicads for a [i]very[/i] short time before and it does help but not enough to be worth it. Better spending your time finding a cheap source of batteries. If you are a real cheapskate or the batteries are very expensive then I've taken car racing packs to bits before as a very cheap source of good tabbed nicads


 
Posted : 09/03/2012 9:05 pm
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i tried it after i google it for instruction ,on a 18 volt that wouldnt hold a charge. i zapped it with 36 volts and left it to cool, recharge it perfect use it every day 😀


 
Posted : 09/03/2012 9:40 pm
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have heard it work after using welders on lots of forums... personally would't dare when they are cheap..


 
Posted : 10/03/2012 12:21 am
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So did you dare mk1fan?


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 1:15 pm
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I don't have a welder to hand but can do the charge - discharge cycle thing so will try that for the 14.4V ones.

I've found a 9,6v replacement for £25 so may just get that for the 9.6V one.


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 1:20 pm
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A 9.6 will be may not actually fit, it'll be physically smaller than the current one you've got


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 1:46 pm
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The 9.6v replacement will be too small to replace the duff 9.6V battery?


 
Posted : 12/03/2012 2:00 pm