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I want to see Faith No More tonight in Brixton, but it's now lookng like my only option is to use a tout as i've been let down elsewhere.

I've never purchased from a tout before and am keen to know your thoughts on doing so.
Is it frowned upon, legally? Or not?
I always see them operating right under the nose of the old bill.

Anyone with regular experience? ever bought a fake?

If I were to buy one with minutes to spare, do they tend to get closer to face value as they try to get rid of thier last few tickets?
It's always puzzled me why they still tout to [u]buy[/u] tickets even as the gig is about to start..


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 12:03 pm
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Although I did buy from one once, at less than face value, I'd rather miss a gig than buy from a scalper. It should be illegal to sell a ticket at over face value, if you ask me.


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 12:19 pm
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I bought some reading festival ones half price, good job seeing as Royal Mail stole the originals (left a sory you were out card, depot said they were signed for, postie said they were left at the local post office which shouldn't be possible as they were SD and Festival Republic didn't want to know as they'd been signed for and therefore either I had them or or RM did).

Depends on the gig, if it's sold out they'll be expensive on the night, if its half empty or a ot of touts hedged their bets they'll be cheep.


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 12:23 pm
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[i]It should be illegal to sell a ticket at over face value, if you ask me.[/i]

Why?


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 12:27 pm
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I've had great success and joy using ehtical ticket sites such as scarletmist, but not able to get my hands on a ticket thus far.

It'll be a total sell out at the venue tonight, but I can't see why any remaining tickets (if there are any I suppose) wouldnt go for face value or less once the gig has begun?

My main issue is, is it illegal and therefore naughty..
and is it probable that i'll be offered fake useless tickets?..


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 12:32 pm
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It should be illegal to sell a ticket at over face value, if you ask me.

Why?

Because it encourages people to buy tickets only to sell them on and make money, denying other people the chance to go to the event at a reasonable price.

Why not?


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 12:37 pm
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[i]Because it encourages people to buy tickets only to sell them on and make money, denying other people the chance to go to the event at a reasonable price. [/i]

A reasonable price is what someone is prepared to pay for the ticket. If that's more than the face value, then so be it. The face value itself might be deemed unreasonable by some.


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 12:43 pm
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It might not be illegal, but I've almost been refused entry to a venue before now after being seen merely [i]selling [/i]a spare ticket to a scalper outside. (I apologised profusely, explained that I'd sold not bought, and they relented and let me in).


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 12:47 pm
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A reasonable price is what someone is prepared to pay for the ticket. If that's more than the face value, then so be it. The face value itself might be deemed unreasonable by some.

Oh, you must be one of them there capitalists.


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 12:47 pm
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It is not illegal to buy tickets from a tout unless they are for a football match (section 166, Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994).

However, you may be breaking the original conditions of sale and the venue [i][b]could[/i][/b] (but won't) deny you entry.

I have bought from touts loads of times (for both football and music). In the past I have waited for the match to start and bought below face value and it has only backfired on me once - there were absolutely none available.


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 12:48 pm
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This is official touting, apparently this is OK as ticketmaster take another cut!

http://www.getmein.com/


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 12:52 pm
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Faith no more at brixton!? **** I'm missing it 🙁


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 1:07 pm
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You could look on www.seatwave.com
It's a pricey but legitimate way of doing it if it's something you have to see.


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 1:20 pm
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Faith no more at brixton!? **** I'm missing it

Exactly!
Saw them in 2009 at Brixton, was also my sons first ever gig (albeit in his mothers womb!)
Live at Brixton was pretty much a staple for me duing school days!

Looks like ill be heading in tonight and taking my chances then


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 1:34 pm
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Stay at home and listen to Live at the Brixton Academy.

😀


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 1:38 pm
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I can't help myself, I love this band - and I don't expect many more opportunities to see them live


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 1:42 pm
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I have no problem with people selling tickets for a bit above face value, after all, that price does not include the petty larceny that is 'booking fee', and other amounts added onto the ticket price. I [i]do[/i] have problems with the likes of getmein.com, because I'm sure they get access to the best tickets, then make a huge profit selling them on.
I wanted tickets for Tori Amos's concert at the Royal Albert Hall in a few months time. When I went on line through Ticketmaster, the only tickets were for blocks in the banked areas right at the back, at around £35-45.
However, if I wanted tickets in the floor arena area, I had to go through a link to another site, where tickets [i]started[/i] at £85!
I've used touts twice, once back when you had to go to the box office and queue, that was for Yes, at the Bristol Hippodrome. I was in a long queue, and getting slowly close to the box office, and a bloke walking past asked if anyone wanted a ticket. I thought for a second, and said yes; paid £3 for a £2.50 ticket.
The people next to me laughed, said I was daft and just been done. Two minutes later the sign went out, 'Box office closed. Sold out'
I laughed a lot. Good ticket, too.
The other time I had a spare ticket for Maria McKee in London, and got the face value and booking fee covered selling to a tout.


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 5:23 pm
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I wanted tickets for Tori Amos's concert at the Royal Albert Hall in a few months time

See, that's where your argument fell apart.. 🙂

paid £3 for a £2.50 ticket.
The people next to me laughed, said I was daft and just been done. Two minutes later the sign went out, 'Box office closed. Sold out'

Having said that, that's a good story. 50p well spent


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 5:36 pm
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f I were to buy one with minutes to spare, do they tend to get closer to face value as they try to get rid of thier last few tickets?
It's always puzzled me why they still tout to buy tickets even as the gig is about to start..

Touting seems like a very dicey business model - sure they can buy up spare tickets cheaply and get close to face value for them, but any miscalculation of demand and you're left with dozens of worthless tickets..

I was amazed to see touts at the Foos gig at the Milton Keynes bowl - who on earth would drag themselves all the way out there without a ticket?


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 8:54 pm
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I was amazed to see touts at the Foos gig at the Milton Keynes bowl - who on earth would drag themselves all the way out there without a ticket?

People who haven't got a ticket and absolutely have to see the Foos, i'd imagine.

Serious question - I know it depends on the gig / desirability but how much above the odds do you typically have to pay for a ticket outside a gig if you absolutely have to see it. As above - up to a point their value could be like gold dust depending on supply and demand but as time approaches any left in the touts' hands approach zero value, no matter how valuable they were an hour ago. Much like airline seat pricing, I'd assume their price increases as concert time approaches up to a point but then starts to drop pretty swiftly. Anyone with experience of playing this game to work out optimum time to buy, to maximise chance of getting one but paying the lowest price for it?

Maybe I could get an EU grant and do a PhD on it - and get to see loads of gigs at the same time!


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 9:22 pm
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There's obviously something wrong with the system... Big event goes on sale, everyone goes online at 9am or whenever to buy, system crashes, everything sold out. Limit of 4 tickets per person. Then you go on ebay and already people are selling 20 tickets for twice the face value. It's a crap situation tbh...


 
Posted : 10/07/2012 9:30 pm
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How did you get on?


 
Posted : 11/07/2012 8:39 am