Its not secret undisclosed rules - its about acting decently and I was not sure this person was. Its about not monopolizing the rack to the extent others who cycle every day cannot use it. Others are losing out because this person has taken up two spaces for a bike they do not use
I wouldn't do what they have done. I was interested in the consensus on here.
anyone with a reason to be in the building can use it – thats what its there for. Its not reasonable IMO to use 2 spaces long term
Define "long term." An afternoon? A fortnight? A year?
What if rather than one big bike it was a regular one and their daughter's taking up two spaces instead?
if it was moving even every few days I would be fine. I just do not see this as OK to take up 40% of available bike parking leaving regular commuters with no space for their bikes so they have to carry them upstairs or lock them to the banister which is actually against regs and rules ( fire escapes / disability access)
Its not secret undisclosed rules – its about acting decently and I was not sure this person was. Its about not monopolizing the rack to the extent others who cycle every day cannot use it. Others are losing out because this person has taken up two spaces for a bike they do not use
Sure it is, you've got the hump about something that no-one else could possibly know is an issue to you. You think that parking a bike in a bike rack is indecent without any further communication to anyone. that's madness.
Who are these 'others' who are losing out? There's at least one empty slot in the photo you posted. Has anyone else complained?
Who are you to police someone else's cycling regularity? What would you consider acceptable use before they qualified to use your facilities?
You're posing a lot of questions here but you're swerving many more answers.
if it was moving even every few days I would be fine.
Why? What difference would that make? They've left and come back, they still take up the same space. Your entire beef here is "someone owns a bike and isn't using it enough."
I just do not see this as OK to take up 40% of available bike parking
Before your rack there was zero parking. Now demand has exceeded supply. Maybe it's time to engage the building owners to provide official capacity when there's demonstrably a need for it.
Your entire beef here is “someone owns a bike and isn’t using it enough.”
No - my beef is that someone is taking up 40% of the bike parking without actually needing to use it as the bike is not being used
there is no room for more racks. Demand has exceeded supply since I put it in - in summer at least.
Who are these ‘others’ who are losing out? There’s at least one empty slot in the photo you posted. Has anyone else complained?
the folk that commute by bike daily who now have no space - there is around 6- 8 regular commuters. that photo was taken at 8pm. The commuters are at home. 2 of the bikes belong to residents and are used often. Earlier on today there were too many bikes for the space so folk had to carry them upstairs
When a resource is in short supply to take 40% of it for what is clearly a bike that is not being used seems off to me. 2 people who regularly commute will have to carry their bikes up to their offices now because of this person leaving the cargo bike there 24/7 and not using it
Leave a note already 🙂
It's in a communal stairwell, nothing should be stored there as it's a fire risk in a key escape route.
E bikes are particularly high risk as they could cause a fire themselves rather than just helping a fire spread/increase smoke levels.
I'm with TJ on this, having provided a facility, one user is now taking the piss.
Using more space than required and thereby potentially preventing others from using it, and using a temporary storage location as if it's a permanent one. If you own a bike and don't intend to use it for long periods, store it at home.
I assume you have an email address for office managers for each of the businesses using the building? If so send them a picture along with some clarifications on the intended use of the rack, i.e. for use primarily by residents, one bike to a slot, not intended as a permanent bike storage solution for occupants of the offices outside of business hours. There's always a possibility that the owner has gone off on long term sickness, holiday or a sabbatical maybe?
It would probably be worth putting up some signage making the rules clearer for the future too...
I know at my own work, where we have abundant bike storage, if a bike hasn't moved in 6+ months (and it does happen) a 2 week 'ABANDONED BICYCLE' notice is left on the bike informing the owner that it's going to have the lock cut and be removed and auctioned off (normally eBay I think), the proceeds then going to a charity. That's probably a bit dramatic for your case TJ but it might be worth considering what further sanctions you might have to implement if the owner never shows up again...
Cut the lock and remove the bike rack AND leave a note on the ebike.
It's annoying, but that's people for you. It's a bit like turning up at the trail centre car park on a busy day and looking for a space, when all the large vans & campers are taking up far, far more than a car space each. They're not doing anything 'wrong', it's just not what I'd do. They got their first and used the facilities regardless of anyone else - certainly wouldn't enter their heads that the large vehicles could be seen as anti-social.
Gentle tut, and go for a ride.
I see it's that time again...
This sounds like a job for a Communal Noticeboard!
'Dear Butthead, ...
I’d set fire to it personally.
You don’t live above it though. Anyway if it’s an ebike it will probably self combust soon enough.
If you don't want communual spaces buy a detached house. Bike parking in closes has been fraught since bikes and closes have been invented. I had a neighbour that used to steal my wheel.
Just be thankful your close is free of theiving jakies as that's far from a given.
Only my least valuable bike gets left there.😎🤣
If its your own rack why not just put a note on it saying the rack is going to be moved and then move it ?
Becuase the rack is there to stop folk locking bikes to the banister
Cut the lock. Move the ebike to a more reasonable place, e.g. The end slot and lock it with a decent lock.
Send a note to the various Tennants/residents telling them how naff the lock was, why it's been moved and to contact you for the key to the lock.
Think of it as community spirited clamping.
Maybe stick some sort of divider between the slots to prevent the use of two. (which I see as akin to parking across two marked spaces instead of one and really annoys me)
Becuase the rack is there to stop folk locking bikes to the banister
Objective achieved. Imagine trying to lug that big Bertha of an ebike upstairs. Work related manual handling injury central on that one 😉
Just be thankful your close is free of theiving jakies as that’s far from a given.
Could you translate the scotch please. I know what jakies are from my Irvine Welsh novels, but what is a ‘close’?
@jambourgie surely you know that Wikipedia is the friend of those blagging it:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close
Look under the other uses tab.
hightensionline
when all the large vans & campers are taking up far, far more than a car space each.
In my experience and not just vans/motor homes parking like that is often dictated by what and how other vehicles were parked when they arrived.
TJ
No – my beef is that someone is taking up 40% of the bike parking
I'm with Cougar... unless you inform and put a notice that's what most people will assume.
without actually needing to use it as the bike is not being used
You don't know why though ... they might be ill, they might keep forgetting to take a charger into work ... they might have to pick up kids for a fortnight every fortnight ??
Demand has exceeded supply since I put it in – in summer at least.
2 notices ... one for your preferred place. Reserved for building owner/resident sign and "any bike locked here will be cut off" AND 2nd notice about bikes taking more than one space (and perhaps reserved one end?)
The resolution. The bike has not been ridden. I put a note on it as polite and non passive aggressive as i could make it
Its been moved so it no longer blocks two spaces and is lessin the way
Less.... but still a bit?
Lol!
I put a note on it as polite and non passive aggressive as i could make it
were there many drafts?
hove you found out who the bike belongs to?
None and no 🙂 although I suspect the new office full of hipster architects
I suspect the new office full of hipster architects
B***rds, how dare they do business in this post brexshits apocalypse. What happened to the decent squat full of junkies?
