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...never...ship...on...bad...ball...


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 7:48 pm
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Lawes MOM for me.


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 7:52 pm
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Did I ever mention how much I love Lawes


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 7:52 pm
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How good has he been? Gets one very long arm on a player and they are down.


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 7:55 pm
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YEEEESS!

I’m optimistically going 23-18 Lions

Not a bad prediction 😉


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 7:59 pm
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Satisfactory


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 8:00 pm
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Both sides will get better


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 8:00 pm
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Wolverine lasted the full 80 too, you doubted


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 8:01 pm
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Lawes or Itoje for MoM ?


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 8:02 pm
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Got to have a shout out to Alun Wyn for playing 80 mins. A real talisman for us.

Daly a weak link though? I’d put Harris in for the next match tbh


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 8:02 pm
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He did, ****er is actually a mutant.


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 8:05 pm
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Daly did good really, tough job there.


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 8:35 pm
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Also to be fair to Jonkers, he was straight.


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 8:37 pm
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Man, that was tense. Curry (aside the stupid pen), Itoje, AWJ and Lawes were immense.
Anthony Watson, Daly and Farrell have gotta go.
Superb victory after how they controlled the first half, without actually doing much.


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 8:38 pm
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Anthony Watson

Did we watch the same game? Apart from receiving about 2 passes to do anything with, he defended well. Farrel read the game and played well at 10, and 100% kicks at goal… 😉

Daly vs SA is the issue, he gave nothing outside of him.


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 8:44 pm
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I have a horrible suspicion Mish may be buying whatever the SA equivalent of Fox's biscuits are...


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 8:53 pm
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Did we watch the same game? Apart from receiving about 2 passes to do anything with, he defended well. Farrel read the game and played well at 10

Interesting game innit.
Tell you what though, I was so chuffed and utterly amazed when they brought Elton on. He’s rubbish! Always has been. Incredible that he’s been in the squad so long.
Queue Kryton - “He’s a rugby genius!” 😂


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 8:58 pm
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Actually, Watson was ok, just think there are better wingers available


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 9:05 pm
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Wasn't a day for wingers...centres...full backs...stand offs...scrum halves.


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 9:33 pm
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Who did get MoM?
Also Mako and Sinkler made a big difference, I'm not gonna slate the first front row, I think they had a tougher job.
I think we missed May, he is good in fronty games.


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 10:42 pm
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Hogg...average to poor for him
Watson...did well with what he had to do
Daly.....cant decide really, he was targeted and found a little short, Aki and Henshaw may have been better today.
DvDM... Did ok.
Biggar... Did ok
Price...not a great game, no pace and kicks were a bit long but got no protection first half.
Conan...did ok
Curry...was good, daft pen aside.
Lawes...very good second half.
Itoje...immense
AWJ...solid
Furlong...very good in scrums
LCD... Did well, didn't carry enough for me
Sutherland...was outshone by Mako


 
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I thought Price was OK, if you look at the dividends from his kicks they were good. IE lots of confusion amongst SA when they ran them back and often their return kicks just yielded nothing or went into touch.
All of our backs missed lots of tackles.


 
Posted : 24/07/2021 10:58 pm
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Interesting that commentators that questioned certain picks have concluded that those picks didn't play well. Price apparently had a mare and played well.


 
Posted : 25/07/2021 7:12 pm
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Itoje is a freak!


 
Posted : 25/07/2021 8:32 pm
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I have tried to avoid posting this as TJ is not around to defend him, but when Watson first came on he tried to bounce his way through Etzebeth and got completely monstered, picked up and hurled backwards towards the SA jackler's, was quite funny.


 
Posted : 25/07/2021 9:43 pm
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To be fair "Mish" did play pretty well apart from the fog/tip. Not many lions didn't get knocked back at some point. AWJ even took a few backwards steps in contact.


 
Posted : 25/07/2021 10:07 pm
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To be fair “Mish” did play pretty well apart from the fog/tip.

He was very lucky to not get yellow!! Once he calmed down he was good

AWJ even took a few backwards steps in contact.

He does regularly, he not great at carrying, he is used to reset shit ball mainly, get clattered and then go again.


 
Posted : 25/07/2021 10:11 pm
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I'm surprised that refs haven't spotted faf's weird berserker frenzies. He rag dolled himself into one maul in leading with shoulder and definitely not legally.

Curry and Mish should both have seen yellow.


 
Posted : 25/07/2021 10:48 pm
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So team for this Saturday then??
Mako
LCD
Furlong OR Sinks
AWJ
Itoje
Lawes
Curry
Conan
Price
Biggar
DVDM
Farrell
I CAN'T DECIDE.
Watson - I want to say LRZ, in attack he is amazing, but I don't know what his defence is like.
Loopy Liam just cos Hogg lost the plot.


 
Posted : 25/07/2021 11:53 pm
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Mako wil be chewed up and spat out by that SA front row. Which will paint a weak scrum picture to the ref.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 12:36 am
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Mako wil be chewed up and spat out by that SA front row. Which will paint a weak scrum picture to the ref.

Like he was Saturday? Hmmm.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 9:35 am
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They changed the front row at half time, he didn't face the starting line up. The lions starting front row pretty much had the SA sub front row beat (apart from marks he's an animal) whereas they struggled against the SA starters.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 9:37 am
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The lions starting front row pretty much had the SA sub front row beat (apart from marks he’s an animal) whereas they struggled against the SA starters.

Yeah and when our sub front row came on they hammered the SA sub front row.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 10:21 am
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Interesting you've not included Henshaw. Thought he was one of our better backs on Sat.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:02 am
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I thought the ref was pretty awful on Sat.. but as the Lions benefited from most of his crapness, we can't really complain eh?! Saw this and agree on most fronts - https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ref-watch-sorry-but-the-first-test-officiating-was-too-inconsistent/
There was also the Itoji penalty, where Boks were right on our line, Faf goes to grab the ball out of the tackle area (ruck wasn't called yet, surprise!) and Itoji gets his hands on it a splt second later and stops him. Penalty Lions for holding on! What, the scrum half isn't allowed to grab the ball? The jackler has more rights?
Found it
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Posted : 26/07/2021 11:21 am
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Interesting you’ve not included Henshaw. Thought he was one of our better backs on Sat.

I haven't not included him, he could have scored if he had both hands on the ball.

Agree about ref, he seemed want to keep the game flowing and made a fair few screw up, maybe he was nervous.
The TMO, kicker in front of the ball call was so marginal, however the forward pass before seemed more obvious to me and he said it wasn't.
I think my concern with SA is that they seem to know how to play the ref better.
They played this kind of chaos infringement thing, both of those disallowed tries were littered with possible infringements, offisde, forward passes knock on's etc, but they cleverly play on through it.
NH players seem to have an honesty which is a fallibility - ie when a player knocks on either him or some/most of the team put the brakes on as they expect the whistle.
I rewound a few calls on sat and you can see the clear difference - both the disallowed tries caught us napping, partly I think because we expected the whistle.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:30 am
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Penalty Lions for holding on! What, the scrum half isn’t allowed to grab the ball? The jackler has more rights?

You mean where he was supporting all his weight whilst kneeling on the SA player?! 🙂


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:33 am
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You mean where he was supporting all his weight whilst kneeling on the SA player?!

Yeah, exactly, when he realised he wasn't strong enough to steal the ball from little Faf 😀

he could have scored if he had both hands on the ball

True. But he did still get tackled 🙂


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:36 am
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But he did still get tackled

I am not sure if it was a complete tackle, he seemed to be carrying on?


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:42 am
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Im torn on Saturday. If the Lions win wrapping up the tour after two matches would be great....but a SA win setting up a decider the following Saturday makes for a much more exciting finale.

I also think SA will come back stronger and win on Saturday anyway.


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 11:45 am
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That's not the sort of excitement I enjoy! I can't enjoy a game if I'm too tense 😆


 
Posted : 26/07/2021 12:18 pm
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Faf's try is arguably an accidental obstruction. He takes the ball and drives into his own player who is being tackled by a lion.


 
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Mako is set to start apparently.
I can't see huge changes in the rest of the forwards. There is some talk of Mish instead of Curry, but I thought Curry did well. Was Conan up to scratch? Is FalaTEAU good for it?
Be interesting to see what backs are selected now. Adams will probs get a nod which would be great.


 
Posted : 27/07/2021 8:44 am
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Who knew that they sold such big prams in SA?

Changes; Daly out for either a crash ball centre or Harris. Hopefully Biggar and WJ fit But VP starts; God knows where he pulled that performance out from, but he has the shirt now. Sutherland is a very good scrummager normally but just met somebody he couldn't manage on Saturday, he only makes the bench if WJ is still broken. Would be tempted to start with Owens and bring on LCD second half.I said SA would gas on Saturday and boy did they,lastly we need Biggar fit as well as Farrell and Russell aren't the 10 we want for the game Saturday will be.

Oh; and as an ex ref; a red card to come this week.


 
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