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With all this duplicity and shameful behaviour behaviour by our government it might be worth pointing out that at this moment ambulances from another eu state are deploying in the UK because we can’t cope.

<Enters 'mind' of typical Daily Mail reader>

Typical devious EU ambulances meddling in our affairs, trying to score points. We don't need them.

<Exits mind of typical Daily Mail reader - relieved at not having to pretend to have shit for brains>

If pressed, I reckon you'd get Rees Mogg to actually say something like this. He didn't like the UNICEF 'meddling' either.

**** Brexit and all who sail in her.


 
Posted : 20/12/2020 10:41 am
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Also - I'm sticking to my prediction. Johnson is going full No Deal for maximum payout from the disruptors. He's decided that his pathetic little Churchillian fantasy hasn't worked out like he wanted, so he's selling the entire country down the river and resigning by end of March 21.


 
Posted : 20/12/2020 10:43 am
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Hoorah - Mark Francois is back from his super secret manoeuvres to defend a proper Brexit...

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-boris-johnson-warned-any-uk-eu-trade-deal-must-please-new-red-wall-mps-12168669


 
Posted : 20/12/2020 9:21 pm
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his super secret manoeuvres

Have I missed a 'not guilty' verdict somewhere in the news?

55!

That wee cherub must have had a hard paper round .


 
Posted : 20/12/2020 9:30 pm
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Hurrah - we're saved.

I wonder where he's been?


 
Posted : 20/12/2020 9:34 pm
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Have I missed a ‘not guilty’ verdict somewhere in the news?

If you mean that rape allegation, charges were dropped but the complainant has supposedly asked for review.

But Marc Francois was never put in the frame for that and his disappearance for the same period has nothing to do with it, that must be clear.


 
Posted : 20/12/2020 9:38 pm
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Jumped up little twerp.


 
Posted : 20/12/2020 9:41 pm
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Oh, and talking of jumped up little twerps, Little Matty Handjob has been sticking his unwelcome and suspiciously junior-sized oar in again on Brexit.

The UK health secretary, Matt Hancock, said the talks had been derailed in recent days after the EU “put in some unreasonable demands” on fisheries, but that he was still hopeful of an agreement before Christmas. “I’m sure that a deal can be done, but obviously it needs movement on the EU side,” he said.

Arrogant, incompetent, conceited little shit.


 
Posted : 20/12/2020 9:48 pm
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If you mean that rape allegation, charges were dropped but the complainant has supposedly asked for review.

No, no theotherjonv ,I had heard that he had accused an old General of slapping him around a bit ,while shouting" Where's Cummings now then you mouthy little twerp?" 😉

Anyway, I think we should play the joker/get out of jail Covid card,postpone Brexit for another year.


 
Posted : 20/12/2020 9:57 pm
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So now EP time has run out. France has shut the borders and Boris is chairing a meeting..

...

Everything is fine.....

And apparently at least one Belgian scientist has said the new strain doesn't exist, the whole situation is because Johnson hasn't got a clue so is making it up to cover his incompetence.


 
Posted : 20/12/2020 10:31 pm
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I'm kind of enjoying watching people trapped between on the one hand saying that the government's handling of covid has been great and the only reason for the new lockdowns, christmas changes etc are the virus "moving the goalposts" with its unpatriotic new strain and that there's nothing they could have done to prevent that...

But that simultaneously, EU countries are being totally unreasonable introducing any new travel measures because of the new strain, and that it's all just johnny foreigner trying to punish us for being free.


 
Posted : 20/12/2020 10:35 pm
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People are about to get a very harsh lesson in what it really means to live on an Island


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 7:50 am
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France has shut the borders and Boris is chairing a meeting..

Everything is fine…..

And apparently at least one Belgian scientist has said the new strain doesn’t exist, the whole situation is because Johnson hasn’t got a clue so is making it up to cover his incompetence.

I think we need to avoid mixing up borders closing due to the virus change and Brexit. Though it may have just brought the chaos forward by 10 days.


 
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People are about to get a very harsh lesson in what it really means to live on an Island

Living on an island is fine as is living on a continent. They both have pros and cons. Acting like pumped up little ****s is the issue.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 8:49 am
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I’m kind of enjoying watching people trapped between on the one hand saying that the government’s handling of covid has been great and the only reason for the new lockdowns, christmas changes etc are the virus “moving the goalposts” with its unpatriotic new strain and that there’s nothing they could have done to prevent that…

But that simultaneously, EU countries are being totally unreasonable introducing any new travel measures because of the new strain, and that it’s all just johnny foreigner trying to punish us for being free.

The self delusion of the 'mark' after a scam has been pulled on them. They can't admit they are wrong. Idiots.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 8:56 am
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Yeah but look at all that empty space just south of Northern Ireland, we can take that right?

We've tried that, I believe it didn't go too well for both parties.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 9:03 am
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All the signs on the motorway driving into work say

"French border closed, stay home"

52% of people must be cheering as that was what they voted for.. .until they get to the supermarket to do the Christmas shopping and see the result of potential fresh food deliveries stopping plus the usual Christmas food shopping chaos is like


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 9:05 am
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We’ve tried that, I believe it didn’t go too well for both parties.

Half of Johnson's new support probably doesn't know where the republic is. He could probably get it past them as yet another promise wrapped in the flag of St George that has zero chance of happening. Catchy three word slogan is what is needed....


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 9:07 am
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Catchy three word slogan is what is needed….

Tiocfaidh ár lá?


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 9:33 am
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All the signs on the motorway driving into work say

“French border closed, stay home”

52% of people must be cheering as that was what they voted for.. .until they get to the supermarket to do the Christmas shopping and see the result of potential fresh food deliveries stopping plus the usual Christmas food shopping chaos is like

Unfortunately this gives Lying Blohard the perfect cover for Brexit chaos. It will be 'beastly foreigners' and 'mutant Chinese virus' what dunnit....


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 10:09 am
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And so it has started. Queues outside supermarkets at 5.50am this morning. Don't know how widespread, but I reckon the 'great' (ha) british public will be indulging their usual hypocrisy and stupidity.

Peace and goodwill to all men..... but only if I'm alright Jack with my 48 pack of Carling, 50kg of pasta and a load of veg, 75% of which will get chucked away in a fortnight.

There'll always be an England.....and England will be thick.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 10:20 am
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Tiocfaidh ár lá?

saoirse na hÉireann, agus Saor Alba


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 10:30 am
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No queues outside waitrose when I went at around 7:30 to finish off the Christmas food shopping. Just need to get cat food.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 10:31 am
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No queues outside waitrose when I went at around 7:30 to finish off the Christmas food shopping. Just need to get cat food.

And is that for the stuffiing, or do you make a special feline starter? 🙂


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 11:09 am
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Ah... Raab... his surprise in November 2018 at the importance of Dover as regards our trade with the mainland (as I'm calling it from now on)... it hasn't stopped him, in December 2020, still wittering on... his two big lines today are...

"They export more to us, than we do to them" ... that's great ... but try using the word supply rather than export ... and "what" do they supply us with...?

"80% of our trade travels unaccompanied" ... I mean, that's great, but how much of our time critical supplies from the mainland travels "accompanied" (ie. requires a driver)...?


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 11:17 am
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People are about to get a very harsh lesson in what it really means to live on an Island

That prompted an interesting though. In the last 400 years we went from freely trading with our own Empire, to the Commonwealth, to the EU. Now we have nothing.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 11:55 am
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Anyone got any black market insulin they want to pass on? My boy's prescription keeps bouncing... they GP just takes it off the prescription because the pharmacy can't get it. Since 2018 we'd made sure we have three month of stock in the fridge, rather than the one month the GP tried to keep him on, we're down to one again now... and I will do anything I can to avoid "just in time" supply next year.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 12:16 pm
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@Kelvin

FFS mate, hope you can get something sorted. I know some people will probably get all sniffy about a small amount of stockpiling, but it isn't all just about the availability of the stuff in general.

It is about distribution, potentially your availability to collect, storage etc.

All the things the ****s will wave by as 'teething troubles' or a 'price worth paying'.

The thing is you are trying to be prudent, trying to be organised, trying to be self-sufficient - all supposedly traditional Tory values. But this bunch of wreckers aren't 'traditional' Tories, they are spivs and speculators.

It makes me so bloody angry.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 1:28 pm
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but I reckon the ‘great’ (ha) british public will be indulging their usual hypocrisy and stupidity.

The "great British public" includes you.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 1:42 pm
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The “great British public” includes you.

I've opted out. Johnson doesn't represent me. Brexit doesn't represent me.

So, basically, bollocks.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 1:53 pm
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I’ve opted out. Johnson doesn’t represent me. Brexit doesn’t represent me.

I was out in October 1994 when they criminalised protest and having fun. It's been a slippery slope ever since 🙂


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 1:59 pm
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“80% of our trade travels unaccompanied” … I mean, that’s great, but how much of our time critical supplies from the mainland travels “accompanied” (ie. requires a driver)…?

I might be a bit naive here but the answer to you cant have people driving across Europe would seem to be just having people who shuttle port to port. Drop off a trailer, port only drivers collect and cross the channel then drop off, UK or French side driver then goes on. There's the flipping channel tunnel - you could dedicate that to medicines and avoid the snarl up.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 2:42 pm
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I’ve opted out. Johnson doesn’t represent me. Brexit doesn’t represent me.

So, basically, bollocks.

You don't have the luxury of an opt out. You're a member of the great British public.

You could reflect on that and whether you wish to disparage an entire nation as if every member thinks the same way. Or carry on being a petulant child.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 2:46 pm
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I might be a bit naive here

You are not. Long term that kind of reorganisation is likely, and to some degree is underway all ready. Now… costs… timescales… planning permissions… training… UK government leadership… reciprocal moves in EEA countries etc… there are reasons why this hasn’t been completed over the last four and a half years, and reasons why it could take at least another four and half years… Brexit is a long slow process, as “Project Fear”, including the UK government at the time, made plain to all who’d listen. In the meantime… most of us just need to “suck it up”… and I worry for anyone still thinking that this is an overnight change without serious short to medium term implications (we can pretty much ignore any long term benefits… as they seem to have evaporated from the dialogue, and were always decades away even when they were proposed).


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 3:00 pm
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The “great British public” includes you.

Not me. I declared our house an independent nation-state on the morning of June 24th, 2016. According to the Brexiteers themselves, I'm entirely within my rights to do this. We had a vote on it and it was unanimous. None of your 48/52% nonsense. A proper decision.

That's democracy in action. We've 'Taken Back Control'

I think of it as a sort of Vatican City but with less of the gold chintzy stuff, incense and blokes in dresses


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 3:14 pm
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Or carry on being a petulant child.

How's your Lexit fantasy working out for you now?

Got the arse because you can't get your sprouts for Crimbo?

Do one, pal.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 3:17 pm
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Or carry on being a petulant child.

How’s your Lexit fantasy working out for you now?

Got the arse because you can’t get your sprouts for Crimbo?

Do one, pal.

QED.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 3:19 pm
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I think of it as a sort of Vatican City but with less of the gold chintzy stuff, incense and blokes in dresses

Is this because you want people to kiss your ring? I believe that such services are available in return for a fee 😉


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 3:21 pm
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QED.

GFY.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 3:24 pm
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Or carry on being a petulant child.

GFY.

QED.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 3:27 pm
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Couldn't care less what you think ransos.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 3:31 pm
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Couldn’t care less what you think ransos.

Yes, that's come across very clearly from your last few posts.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 3:33 pm
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Ha ha.

You keep eulogising about working class solidarity as the last two 'working class heroes' are beating each other to death in Asda for the last box of pigs in blankets.

It's worked brilliantly so far...

Sorry, but I do struggle to take you seriously, old chap.

😘


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 3:47 pm
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Ha ha.

You keep eulogising about working class solidarity as the last two ‘working class heroes’ are beating each other to death in Asda for the last box of pigs in blankets.

It’s worked brilliantly so far…

Sorry, but I do struggle to take you seriously, old chap.

😘

Considering that you couldn't care less what I think, and struggle to take me seriously, you do seem to spend an awful lot of time to responding to my posts. It's almost as though what you think and what you say are different things.

I'm sure that couldn't possibly be the case for such an insightful and perceptive contributor.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 4:00 pm
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You know how you started off by calling soneone else a petulant child...?


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 4:02 pm
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You know how you started off by calling soneone else a petulant child…?

What's your point? Mine was that it's not particularly mature to be labelling an entire population as stupid hypocrites. Especially when that label equally applies to the person making the comment. And you, I guess.


 
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you do seem to spend an awful lot of time to responding to my posts

Nah, just got the day off and the prospect of you losing your rag is keeping me entertained between pre Christmas chores, comrade.

Up the PFJ. ✊


 
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What’s your point? Mine was that it’s not particularly mature to be labelling an entire population as stupid hypocrites. Especially when that label equally applies to the person making the comment. And you, I guess.

Well, my point's fairly obvious but your deliberate obtuseness is not an unexpected response.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 4:14 pm
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not particularly mature to be labelling an entire population

Well, I didn’t think they meant me. Did you assume they meant you, for some reason?


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 4:15 pm
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Nah, just got the day off and the prospect of you losing your rag is keeping me entertained between pre Christmas chores, comrade.

Up the PFJ. ✊

I agree that one of us appears to be getting wound up. And it's probably best if you don't advertise your intention to troll me.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 4:17 pm
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Well, I didn’t think they meant me. Did you assume they meant you, for some reason?

I'm one of the British public, so yes. Are you not?

Well, my point’s fairly obvious but your deliberate obtuseness is not an unexpected response.

It's not obvious to me, so you'll have to explain it. I expect that a discussion between us would go better if you didn't kick it off by accusing me of bad faith.


 
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I agree that one of us appears to be getting wound up.

I agree too.

Calm down, dear.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 4:22 pm
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I agree too.

Calm down, dear.

Keep going. You may manage to come up with something better.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 4:24 pm
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I think of it as a sort of Vatican City but with less of the gold chintzy stuff, incense and blokes in dresses

Disappointed.🤣

Like it or not, we are all part of the British public, even if we don't like what the majority of that grouping appear to have done to the country. How we convince the wider British public to make better and more informed choices going forward needs to be another thread.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 4:36 pm
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How we convince the wider British public to make better and more informed choices going forward needs to be another thread.

TBH, my target is much smaller than that. And there's already an IndyRef2 thread.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 4:40 pm
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I expect that a discussion between us would go better if you didn’t kick it off by accusing me of bad faith.

I expect it would.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 4:42 pm
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I expect it would.

Up to you, then.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 4:43 pm
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Keep going. You may manage to come up with something better.

So might you....

But I doubt it.

Why not have an ask around the rest of the PFJ plenary council, see if they've got any pithy one-liners.


 
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TBH, my target is much smaller than that. And there’s already an IndyRef2 thread.

That's a smart response... and... sadly for those of us down here.. bang on the money.

Anyway to join in with the spirit of Ransos' "discussion"...


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 4:52 pm
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So might you….

But I doubt it.

Why not have an ask around the rest of the PFJ plenary council, see if they’ve got any pithy one-liners.

Binners has hacked your account.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 5:15 pm
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/dec/21/covid-royal-mail-halts-deliveries-to-mainland-europe-canada-and-turkey yeah no postal service. Just when everything is maxed it all collapses. Boris must be laughing his head off, on coke and alcohol.....


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 5:30 pm
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I reckon boris is on his own in a morose little corner as he knows he can't do anything now about the target on his back and his reputation being about as far from Churchill as possible.
He isn't so stupid as to not know he hasn't ballsed this all up and that will likely twist the knife in his guts.

Well am hoping anyway


 
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Binners has hacked your account.

I thought you were trying to come up with something better ffs.

Still, I can't imagine the Presidium of the PFJ is much use on the witty quip front.

When everyone is wearing overalls it kills the fun somewhat, I guess.

Incidentally have any members started adding little bits of gold braid yet? You know 'some are more equal than others' stylee?


 
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So on the TV now he (Johnson) is saying that WTO terms will be very satisfactory and we will 'prosper mightily'.

All said with a straight face


 
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The cheek of it. Johnson and Schapps vomiting out self congratulations about the handling of Kent / Dover based on their successful Brexit prep, whilst Johnson jokes and smirks about Macrons birthday.

One thing he did says thats absolutely true "...we'll prosper mightly after January 1st".

Yeah, I bet you will >:/


 
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Yeah, I bet you will

He's simply using the royal 'we'.

He's bored of pretending to be Churchill now, so he fancies trying the role of King Alexander the Inept...


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 6:31 pm
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Can I just confirm that this is the first use of ‘Tier 4+’?

That was slid in quite casually

I suspect we’ll be hearing a lot more of that in the coming weeks


 
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I thought you were trying to come up with something better ffs.

We both know that you don't really think that. All that's happening is the sad spectacle of you trying to deflect attention from your loss of control earlier today. Here's a reminder.

So, basically, bollocks.

Got the arse because you can’t get your sprouts for Crimbo?

Do one, pal.

GFY.

Couldn’t care less what you think ransos.

Keep up the sub-Binners digs if you like, but you're going to have to do better if you want a bite.


 
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Keep up the sub-Binners digs if you like, but you’re going to have to do better if you want a bite.

Ok comrade.


 
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All that’s happening is the sad spectacle of you trying to deflect attention from your loss of control earlier today.

By the way, no loss of control, I was just a bit pushed for time to dance rings around you then, so I kept it short.

I've got about half an hour now if you like...


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 6:52 pm
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STOP IT!

“I know you are, but what am I?”


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 7:19 pm
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Crossing the streams…

A reminder that our politicians chose to end the transition period when we were expecting the second wave of this pandemic to coincide with the normal NHS yearly crisis…

The donkeys that we elected have made this January the bit of a mess that it will be… they choose this… they have let us all down…

https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/1341086491045453827?s=21


 
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Half an hour slot has passed, unfortunately.

Guess you must have been busy - allotment perhaps?

🙊


 
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As amusing it is, and good comedy value for a short respite within the context of the insanity, can we please try to stay on topic rather than pissing up lamp posts to see who can piss the most? whether that be on thier own trousers or on innocent bystanders.

WTF is our goverment doing apart from absolutley nothing?


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 7:49 pm
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What are they doing? Ruling out any reasonable way forward to prevent maximum No Deal disruption in 10 days time…

https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/status/1341012259598987272?s=21


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 7:53 pm
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What our government are doing is ‘getting Brexit done’ by simply doing nothing and running down the clock to No Deal

As for everything else that’s going on, they don’t seem to be unduly concerned by any of it

I still can’t quite believe that we’re in the middle of a pandemic and we have such a spectacularly incompetent bunch of chancers at the helm who still don’t even seem to be taking this seriously. Boris can’t help himself. He was at it again today, mugging and gurning and making flippant remarks

The ****ing clown!


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 7:57 pm
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On a practical note… who knows what’s required for GB->NI orders from the end of the month? I genuinely can’t work it out, and need to know.

Latest…

https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1340451722544734208?s=21


 
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Re. That pippa crear tweet- Is this not just so the MPs have to time to scrutinise the deal and will have to vote it through so BoJo gets to be the hero?


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 8:02 pm
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We're even more ****ed than we thought, and were were pretty badly ****ed in the first instance.


 
Posted : 21/12/2020 8:03 pm
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With every day that passes, something else gets added to the ever-lengthening list of utterly shambolic none-readiness for what’s about to happen.

These are really fundamental things too, that this joke of a government doesn’t even seem to have even considered


 
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