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Boris and co are in charge now Matty, for me they have more longevity with a deal under the belt.
Must dash now.
AaRrrrgh, I meant the French blockade style anger👍 many french in my family😁👊
Stw should be ashamed, have you learnt nothing from the recent equality push.
What recent equality push are you referring to?
If you aren’t actively working for a fairer society you are to blame for an unfair society.
I've tried, for years. But the problem is that the selfish have learned how to control the stupid, so the fair have no power to do what is needed.
excee = Jeremy Corbyn?
Boris and co are in charge now Matty
That should be a very real worry for the blue collar worker/wage slave in the UK, but somehow it isn't.
'Boris and co', as you put it, have been very transparent about lining the pockets of thier donors via de-regulation of peronal, environmental, animal and financial regulations.
AaRrrrgh, I meant the French blockade style anger👍 many french in my family😁👊
It doesn't change the meaning of your reply. You can single out the French if you like, but you'd be a fool to think they are own thier own, they are part of the largest trading bolck on earth, you know, ...the one we just left.
Another one who seems to be suggesting culling the thickos in some way.
Stw should be ashamed, have you learnt nothing from the recent equality push. If you aren’t actively working for a fairer society you are to blame for an unfair society. It’s not enough to tick a box every few years.
Aw bless.
Anyway, not a cull, just a polite request to stop voting for stupid stuff if the voters concerned don't really understand what is going on and what is at stake. Stick to Britain's Got Talent or something else. Fantasy Football maybe...
I don't butt into conversations I don't understand, I find it much more valuable to take a step back and listen. Maybe ask a question or two, then form an opinion if I feel well informed enough to do so.
We need the spark to get a bit of that French anger going.
How the hell is Boris going to force a rise in French petrol prices?
AaRrrrgh, I meant the French blockade style anger👍 many french in my family😁👊
You sound more and more like a reincarnation of Jambalaya.
looking good, food stuck now. Rationing? Fighting? Etc
looking good, food stuck now
Can you please - I'm asking sensibly - tell me why this is? Nothing has changed yet so is this just pre-Brexit increased demand for storage or something else?
Well, no insulin available at the pharmacist here. Tried collecting today. Was hopping we’d get into next year before we hit short term supply issues. Remember, it’s a refrigerated “fresh” good, produced on the continent… so scarily analogous to fresh food.
If you aren’t actively working for a fairer society you are to blame for an unfair society.
Which I and my other half have done all our lives you patronising little troll
Now please - an upside to brexit
tell me why this is?
We tried telling you on previous pages, while you were busy calling Binners a scaremonger for describing reality.
Can you please – I’m asking sensibly – tell me why this is? Nothing has changed yet so is this just pre-Brexit increased demand for storage or something else?
Sensible answer, logistics is screwed, a mix of Covid and no deal prep. container rates are through the roof and a number of carriers are not bothering with stopping in the UK, instead off loading in Rotterdam etc.
If you think about all the container carriers as trains, they had routes these were messed up earlier in the year, with the panic buying of PPE the UK ports gridlocked. etc. ships are in the wrong place, containers are in the wrong place. It's a mess. Then on top of this UK companies are buying( or trying to) for Christmas, there are shortages of toys.
As said it is a mess.
If you don't have anything positive to say and help with Kelvin, please just leave off would you? We've all got enough to deal with. I've asked a polite question and am just looking for a polite and educated response.
Thanks.
Thanks Mrmo, got it.
You sound more and more like a reincarnation of Jambalaya.
But with the delivery of chewkw.
Makes you think...
I’ve asked a polite question and am just looking for a polite and educated response.
The polite answers are on very recent pages, as replies to you, from many of us. Read them, and then ask further questions. Saves a lot of cut’n’paste.
- drivers not wanting to queue unpaid
- manufacturers stockpiling parts
- shifting of delivery methods
- boats not wanting to wait to unload
- fewer passenger flights due to Covid
- peak time for ports in normal times
etc
You sound more and more like a reincarnation of Jambalaya.
I was about to put something about 'grownups' showing up, but that was THM.
Amazing how they all morph into one eventually...
As a point, when such stories leak into the mainstream expect all hell to breakout. Explain to people there are food shortages and how it won't to go badly.
It's clear that exsee's ban wasn't long enough.
Nothing more than a low grade troll so best ignored - idiotic posts with added emojis.
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It’s clear that exsee’s ban wasn’t long enough.
Nothing more than a low grade troll so best ignored – idiotic posts with added emojis.
Agreed. It got me through Monday with a bit of fun, but enough is enough.
Ta-da exsee...
👋
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Who the **** is exsees? Dont read shit for brains posts...
There are already shortages of computer components at a consumer level, PSU's CPUS's, GPU's, Monitors.
Hell, to go off topic, there's even shortages of electric mountain bikes and other kinds of bikes due to the supply chain disruption/instability.
AND WE HAVEnT EVEN LEFT YET
Dont read shit for brains posts…
On that note… don’t read my last two posts… as I have shit for brains and have posted in the wrong thread. What a…
Edit: I’ve moved them. Sorry.
There are already shortages of computer components at a consumer level, PSU’s CPUS’s, GPU’s, Monitors.
CPUs were already in that state pre-covid.
Monitors are widely available, just maybe not the exact one that you want.
Not enough GPUs were manufactured with the release of the 3XXX series to match the demand.
This is worldwide.
In fact I just checked in amazon, if I wanted to build a pc tomorrow I'd only struggle finding a current gen GPU.
Prices of SSDs and RAM are still below what they were in 2017.......
CPUs were already in that state pre-covid.
Monitors are widely available, just maybe not the exact one that you want.
Not enough GPUs were manufactured with the release of the 3XXX series to match the demand.
This is worldwide.
In fact I just checked in amazon, if I wanted to build a pc tomorrow I’d only struggle finding a current gen GPU.
Prices of SSDs and RAM are still below what they were in 2017…….
Kind of a digression, I agree, however, the point stands, you can't buy what you want any more, you have to take your pick from what happens to be in stock.
The bike industry seems to be the same, and as you say, this is 'just covid probelms', at least, partly. But in a few days it will be brexit and covid supply chain problems.
Double trouble.
exsee Free Member
I am a boring little troll, please ignore me
okay
Not enough GPUs were manufactured with the release of the 3XXX series to match the demand.
This is only partly true, continental Europe has been getting higher deliveries of 3000 series GPU's - both Nvidia and the third party board manufacturers have been prioritising the USA and mainland Europe.
This is only partly true, continental Europe has been getting higher deliveries of 3000 series GPU’s – both Nvidia and the third party board manufacturers have been prioritising the USA and mainland Europe.
Who could have possibly have thunk it? (sad face)
Can you please – I’m asking sensibly – tell me why this is?
If you read the article its quite clearly and simply explained.
Double trouble.
Indeed. Not taking up the offer of extending the transition period, while the pandemic was ongoing, made no sense… unless you like trouble that is. And Labour backed Johnson and co on that decision. Led by Donkeys.
Indeed. Not taking up the offer of extending the transition period, while the pandemic was ongoing, made no sense… unless you like trouble that is. And Labour backed Johnson and co on that decision. Led by Donkeys.
The UK population are collectivley locked into what could be descibed as an abusive relationship with thier own leadership.
I'm pretty sure there's already a sydrome named after this.
If you don’t have anything positive to say and help with Kelvin, please just leave off would you?
Blimey I go away for a couple of days and the mob find a new victim to pick on. I joke of course but its illustrative that anyone who steps outside the established groupthink on here gets savaged. I'm only surprised you haven't yet been called an appeaser or nazi sympathiser 😉
In other news I see today there is some optimism about a deal due to Boris giving some ground on the issue of regulatory alignment. What a surprise seeing as no deal and economic and political armageddon seemed so nailed on a couple of days ago. Is it just possible that the established view on here might be a little bit wrong? (That's a genuine question BTW)
Time will tell. If you want to know whose predictions have been best so far there a whole thread to read back through and those predicting no deal or a very scant deal to keep trucks running have been the ones who predicted much of what's happened in the slow motion crash to where we are now, which ain't great is it. (no question mark)
If Binners had put his money where his predictions have been at the bookies he'd be up. I made my bets 33 years ago and have no regrets even if I've been surprised at the level of self destructiveness. I couldn't and didn't predict so little effort would be put into the future relationship with the EU even when I saw the vote result on the TV screen.
Excee's arguments (such as they were or could be inferred from what was written) seemed as much about pressing the appropriate buttons and introducing a new term for those who voted leave. Presumably "remoaner" and "snowflake" are no longer seen as sufficiently annoying.
As for how the negotiations are going - I've honestly no idea whether a deal of any kind is still there for the taking. Regulatory alignment is a funny one - once we'd left we were going to have the best environmental, workers' rights, etc. so any alignment would surely mean the EU stepping up to our level. Or have I just drunk some Kool-Aid without knowing about it?
Is it just possible that the established view on here might be a little bit wrong? (That’s a genuine question BTW)
My view has always been that Johnson will flounce at the last minute get a deal, making huge concessions & pretend it's a victory
The only time I started to doubt that was when they submitted the insane IMB, but now they've withdrawn it there's no reason not to
It will help that he can push it through over Xmas so the ERG headbangers can't figure out the details (they're pretty dim, obvs) & can't vote it down.
Of course it's so late by then that summed sort of extension will be needed, but renamed as optimal alignment transfer window..
Or something equally daft
Ultimately Johnsons deal won't be much better than no deal, and we've still got loads more to negotiate, Farage will make a meal of fishermen being shafted
I’m only surprised you haven’t yet been called an appeaser or nazi sympathiser
Oooh...which switcheroo are you pulling today dazh? I love how cleverly you do it.
The regulatory alignment angle is just to buy some time, the UK will go full deregulated capitalist heaven in due course once the vultures have gotten their plays into place.
I feel there is no intention of honoring any deal in the long term.
I’m only surprised you haven’t yet been called an appeaser or nazi sympathiser
That was a pretty low comment from dazh
Exsee got mocked, because when asked to explain what he was talking about he couldn't
Unless you can make sense of what he wrote daz?
The UK population are collectivley locked into what could be descibed as an abusive relationship with thier own leadership.
I’m pretty sure there’s already a sydrome named after this.
Cockhome syndrome.
which switcheroo are you pulling today
The only switch I've ever done on brexit was trying to understand the other side. It's easy for me to condemn brexit (as I have done many times and still do) when due to my cossetted middle class existence I don't really feel the sharp edges of politics and economics. My (not entirely unrealistic) dreams of retiring to somewhere mountainous in Europe seem to be for the dogs but I recognise and accept that wasn't high in the minds of those who voted for it. C'est la vie.
Unless you can make sense of what he wrote daz?
Nope. I wasn't talking about him, but about how everyone jumped on Kryton for not joining in with the festival of doom. You'll see I asked Exsee what he was going on about, and he never answered. I suspect I know where he's coming from though, because I've been talking about it for a while. I don't agree with him, but that's irrelevant. The sad fact is many do, and until that's unpicked and acknowledged we won't turn the corner away from narrow minded populist self-harming nonsense.
Unless you can make sense of what he wrote daz?
I doubt even exsee can.
C’est la vie.
Get that filthy foreign nonsense off of the thread extolling the magnificence of Boris's Bulldog Brilliant British Brexit.
(Aka Boris's Bullshit Bus hits the Buffers and Burns Brightly).
“The only ever...”
Yeah, right. 😂
I think your best Brexit fast show character is as the weather vane lefty. Our forum pound shop Owen Jones - “...virtually indistinguishable from a dictatorship..” but “...I campaigned for remain...”
To be fair, you do it well. I’m not sure many see through it.
Cockhome syndrome.
That's as good a phrase as any 🙁
My view has always been that Johnson will flounce at the last minute get a deal
Dude, no offence, but we are past that now, now we just have a fake PM, even if he does capitulate, He'll be seen as a joke, a blip in history.
That's no recompence for the peoples lives he's already knakered for a bit of show-boating.
That's obvioulsy so important to boris.
What actualy is important for the PM of the UK? he's a renegade, a despot.. he want's to make his fat poo stained mark in the UK.
In so far as this statement goes...
The only switch I’ve ever done on brexit was trying to understand the other side. It’s easy for me to condemn brexit (as I have done many times and still do) when due to my cossetted middle class existence I don’t really feel the sharp edges of politics and economics. My (not entirely unrealistic) dreams of retiring to somewhere mountainous in Europe seem to be for the dogs but I recognise and accept that wasn’t high in the minds of those who voted for it. C’est la vie.
Are you me?
VvV Actually I don’t think you are VvV
I think your best Brexit fast show character is as the weather vane lefty.
Or maybe I just don’t accept the binary and immutable view of brexit? I’m more than happy to declare myself a conscientious objector in this stupid culture war though. At the end of the day there are more important and bigger things to worry about.
As for the news, the no-deal, the perhaps-edging-to-a-deal, the chief liar and cheat of Downing Street etc - I know I’m having my perceptions and expectations managed, I just don’t know by whom and to what end.
Thanks for the thinly veiled insults Dazh. Welcome back.
At the end of the day there are more important and bigger things to worry about.
I'm not sure you really appreciate the damage brexit is doing
https://ukandeu.ac.uk/the-uk-economy-brexit-vs-covid-19/
We cannot know exactly how Covid-19 and Brexit will affect GDP in the years ahead. Covid-19 may reduce long-run output by more than 1.7%. But the forecasts shown in Figure 2 would have to be drastically wrong to overturn the conclusion that Brexit has a bigger effect on the present value of output than Covid-19.
Even under the pessimistic assumption that Covid-19 reduces long-run output by 5%, its impact on the present value of output is still slightly smaller than no deal Brexit.
After Covid-19 shut down much of the economy, UK GDP fell by 22% in the first half of 2020. It is hard to see this number without concluding that the effects of Brexit pale in comparison. However, the importance of an economic shock depends upon its duration as well as its size.
And simple arithmetic shows that, in present value terms, Brexit is expected to be by far the bigger shock. In cash terms, no deal Brexit corresponds to a £3.3 trillion decline in the present value of output, even assuming there is no future GDP growth.
And you can bet a shiny brexit 50p coin that those at the very bottom will feel it the most, with food bank use & child poverty already on distressingly high, I dont see how you can be so nonchalant about it all.
At the end of the day there are more important and bigger things to worry about.
unmfortunatly this shitstorm of brexit makes everything else worse.
I too am a comfy middle class guy - but I have already seen the damage brexit has done in the healthservice
Thanks for the thinly veiled insults Dazh.
Really not meant as an insult so you shouldn’t take offence. It’s just a plain fact that that anyone who diverges from the popular view here is jumped upon. It’s a bit like unconscious bias or other forms of coercion when those in the minority are forced to conform through fear of being isolated. It’s nothing more than standard herd social dynamics.
In this example, they “jumped on” Binners, and said there wouldn’t be delays at ports, and it was all in hand. A few of us pointed there already are, and why there are likely to more in the New Year, especially in a no deal scenario. They then asked about this exact same point a day later, and I clumsily suggested reading back over what we already said in replies to them just a few pages ago. I, personally, intended that to be helpful, not rude, and they took offence. You quoted them getting offended and suggested there was a pile on. Kryton’s contributions are valid and welcome here, and I hope will continue, but when excitedly calling someone out for scaremongering, about something not only likely to happen, but already happening, then responses should be expected pointing out what’s going on.
Really not meant as an insult so you shouldn’t take offence. It’s just a plain fact that that anyone who diverges from the popular view here is jumped upon. It’s a bit like unconscious bias or other forms of coercion when those in the minority are forced to conform through fear of being isolated. It’s nothing more than standard herd social dynamics.
No dazh
If you make a statement, especially one that disagrees with the consensus view (in this case that brexit is a disaster that will only benefit a few rich tories)
Then you need to come with evidence or at least try & justify what you're saying
Otherwise yes, you'll get called out
That's not as unreasonable as you're trying to make it seem
Its a shame to see this thread, like many, resorting to mud slinging and name calling, when we are all facing the sh!t storm of all sh!t storms. But then again, what is said on here and most other forums/social, media will have absolutely zero impact on the future of this sad little isle, so.....if it helps you feel ever so slightly better.....sling away.
(in this case that brexit is a disaster that will only benefit a few rich tories)
That’s not what I’m talking about though. Brexit is demonstrably a stupid and ridiculous thing that will create huge damage. The fact that many think otherwise, despite the clear evidence is more my concern, and that won’t be solved by ignoring them and dismissing them, or reminding them of how shit it will be and how they will suffer from it. That’s the same condescending attitude which made many vote for it in the first place, and it’s certainly not going to change their minds.
or reminding them of how shit it will be
Okay, there are have been no problems at the ports, and there will not be in January either. All supply chains are working just fine, and will continue to do so for at least the first six months of 2021. Glass half full (not sure what of though… tasty misdirection perhaps).
That’s the same condescending attitude which made many vote for it in the first place, and it’s certainly not going to change their minds.
So what will? I think everyone agrees with you that these people need to be engaged, persuaded to see that what they are doing is going to cause themselves and the rest of us harm...... but we've been trying that for the past 4 years, and it hasn't worked. Eager to hear what your approach would be as the clock runs down.
Unfortunately, one of the prequisites for being a brexiter is being wilfully ignorant of the facts, even when they are presented to them in every conceivable shape/flavour so as to try to make them understood. So how do you convince that person? The US are wrestling with exactly the same thing.
Not a rhetorical question - lets hear it.
there are have been no problems at the ports
Missing the point again. They don’t care, or believe it will be a temporary problem. Or they think it won’t affect them directly, because other than being f**** over repeatedly politics rarely affects them, and what’s a little more inconvenience on top of all the other crap?
Not a rhetorical question – lets hear it.
Are you asking how to persuade them against brexit or how to combat their ignorance? The former is impossible, and any attempt only compounds and entrenches the position. The latter though is possible. You give them power, a sense of agency, economic security and a belief that things will be better for their kids.
When people feel remote from and ignored by those whole rule over them it's not a surprise when they react against it, and when they get an opportunity to change it they'll take it. And brexit was the mother of all opportunities, provided by a self-serving and naive government and political party who for decades deflected their own failings onto others (the EU in this case).
There's no going back unfortunately, but the root problems can be addressed, and once they are things can improve. Or maybe I'm wrong and things will keep getting worse? It seems to me the best way to ensure that is to keep repeating the mistakes of recent history where people are disenfranchised and treated as human resources in an economic machine which doesn't serve them. We're not going to solve this problem by saying we should go back to 2015.
^ again, nothing there to disagree with..... in fact, I think everyone here will agree with that - and has done over the last 4 years. It's certainly been posed here ad infinitum.
You give them power, a sense of agency, economic security and a belief that things will be better for their kids.
Yep, yep, yep, yep...... all these things would obviously be excellent - the question is how that is achieved, and (importantly) how to do that in a group of people who, when presented with facts that are counter to their own viewpoint, reject them, and actively vote against their own interests?
Moreover, how to do that expediently, with the cliff edge in sight?
The latter though is possible. You give them power, a sense of agency, economic security and a belief that things will be better for their kids.
That's the problem, they were made to think Brexit would give them that, when it clearly won't.
So having been lied to by the "politicians" into voting for something that will make their lives worse, how the hell do you persuade them to vote for any politician who might make it better?
(That's a kind of rhetorical, off topic point. Brexit is happening regardless)
We have left the EU. There is no point trying to convince people that we shouldn’t do what we’ve already done. But that doesn’t mean that we have to join in with sticking our heads in the sand. Supply chains are, and will be, impacted, as the transition period comes to an end. The scale of the disruption will depend on whether we get a deal, when we get it, and what it covers. In the event of no deal, there are ways that impact can be reduced, but they can’t mitigate the issue completely… there will be supply chain issues. Being ready for them, rather than getting angry with people for pointing out they will happen, is something worth considering, and talking about. It no longer matters how you voted, or your long term hopes about what Brexit will deliver, we can all get ready for what is happening in the short term, eyes wide open.
Cockhome syndrome.
Genius! 😀
In this example, they “jumped on” Binners, and said there wouldn’t be delays at ports, and it was all in hand.
Speaking for myself, I didn’t say that. I criticised Binners for his constant sweary Boris bashing on the basis that although it may be correct it wasn’t helpful, and suggested that suggesting people should start stockpiling food was in appropriate, and work was being done to help the Port situation. I’m not having the argument again because...
Kryton’s contributions are valid and welcome here, and I hope will continue
... they won’t, because as I pointed out yesterday in another thread I feel I was made to feel uneducated in Brexit knowledge*, and an enemy of the thread populous for criticising binners call for stockpiling. There have also been veiled comments to a Brexiteer attitude which I do not hold.
Then when asking for advice yesterday, only one poster kindly took a few minutes to summarise it; the spiky attitude from others was essentially “read back through 110 pages and learn it yourself”
Regardless of how you all interpreted your actions that’s how I felt aka alienated, and I’m now conciously not bothering to contribute becuase of it For example, I was about yesterday to but held back from the obvious point confirmed yesterday in this thread that C19 has contributed to Port & goods disarray, is not 100% inflicted by Brexit. Also, did you know as of yesterday we signed the 57th non EU trade agreement with Singapore, the largest number of any country in such a period? Now, that may not mitigate all the impacts of Brexit, but it’s surely good news for the country. However, we don’t like any if slightly related Brexit good news here do we.
*is likely true compared to a lot of others but isn’t the point.
So no doubt this post will be torn to pieces but I have a job to do so I’m off, please enjoy a few minutes angst and frothing at my expense (again) you can have this one on me.
Our governments over the years have painfully failed us.
the root cause of this is the 20+ year propaganda campaign run by malign media barons, our useless pseudo democracy and the poor quality of our politicians. Blair had the opportunity to reform media ownership and bottled it. Johnson has majority power on a minority of the vote.
Constant low level jingoism is not properly challenged
The "left behind" are a symptom not the disease
Also, did you know as of yesterday we signed the 57th non EU trade agreement with Singapore,
fiddling around the edges and will do nothing to mitigate the damage of brexit. there is no brexit related good news
“read back through 110 pages and learn it yourself”
As it was me that said “read back”, I will point out the posts I was referring to were from the day before and were direct replies to you, so not “hundreds of pages and learn for yourself” and I also listed bullet points of some of the reasons the port problems are occurring, including many not Brexit related. Brexit is just the straw that broke the camel’s back at the ports. Sorry if you feel “uneducated” when people try and answer your questions for you. And none of us need to stick up for the PM, we can bash him as much as we want. No one deserves it more right now.
I criticised Binners for his constant sweary Boris bashing on the basis that although it may be correct it wasn’t helpful, and suggested that people should start stockpiling food was in appropriate, and work was being done to help the Port situation.
You are aware that I'm a fat middle-aged bloke howling into the abyss talking bollocks on an internet forum for other fat middle-aged blokes, and not the presenter of Newsnight?
The one thing that is going to get people stockpiling food and stuff is to do exactly what the government did yesterday and make a statement saying not to bother stockpiling food as everything will be fine
It's all a bit "Try not to think of an elephant", isn't it?
Clowns!
andy8442
Its a shame to see this thread, like many, resorting to mud slinging and name calling, when we are all facing the sh!t storm of all sh!t storms.
+1
with food bank use & child poverty already on distressingly high, I dont see how you can be so nonchalant about it all.
My wife and her band of volunteers have cooked and frozen 200xmas dinners, she's also got donations from the local slipper manufacturers and other businesses and managed to put a Xmas gift hamper together.
Some of the referrals coming through are heartbreaking to read.
I'm running about on Xmas Eve in my van collecting from the local supermarkets to then deliver to the local food bank to then distribute locally.
In a 1st world country it shouldn't be happening but there are large gaps that people are falling through.
Let’s see how the Telegraph are reporting this today… (they presumably aren’t “Boris Bashing”)…
A no-deal outcome could lead to a three-month "meltdown" at UK ports and significant tariffs on car and agriculture exports after it leaves the bloc, according to Yellowhammer, a leaked Whitehall document outlining the possible worst-case scenarios.
Extra reserves of non-perishable foods and essentials such as toilet paper are being built up by shops and suppliers to counteract the threat of turmoil at UK ports when the Brexit transition period finishes at the end of this month.
Disruption to fresh produce supplies are meanwhile being treated by retailers as likely, since they cannot be stockpiled.
Approximately 30 per cent of the food in British supermarkets is imported from the EU, meaning consumers can expect to see a dramatic increase in their weekly food bill if a deal is not agreed upon.
The Telegraph reported on December 14 that crucial updates to IT systems that will enable smooth trade between the UK and the EU from January are being delayed because of continually missed Brexit deadlines, likely heaping further chaos on already struggling ports.
And the only bit I’ve taken action on (we have 3 months worth of insulin in the fridge rather than the usual one)…
But the deputy chair of the British Medical Association (BMA), Dr David Wrigley, has raised concerns that some medicines with short shelf lives cannot be stockpiled, such as insulin. Despite these concerns, individuals have been discouraged from stockpiling their own medicines.
If insulin lasted longer, I’d have made sure we had more… because I’m not comfortable at all that there won’t be supply problems over the next few months.
As for food… I’ll expand on what I said in response the Binners’ stockpiling comment the other day… I’ve gone for accepting slightly higher prices and fewer choices in 2021… there is no way I’m stockpiling, it would be selfish… but if your budget is super tight, than getting some of the stables in now to avoid stress and expense in January might be wise.
The most courteous thing I think I could manage right now if confronted with a Brexit supporter bemoaning the effects of what they voted for is a shrug.
I will point out the posts I was referring to
But you didn't, did you Kelvin, only now in retrospect.
In which case:
so not “hundreds of pages and learn for yourself”
How how would I know of the now 112 pages to look at without looking at all of them progressively until I found my answer?
Sorry if you feel “uneducated” when people try and answer your questions for you.
Don't be sorry, its not a problem for me that people know more than I do, its only an issue when you ask those people and the forthcoming answer is made to be difficult to achieve to the point it feels personal.
we can bash him as much as we want
I never said you couldn't, I suggested it isn't helpful in the main, I essentially implied that same as Andy8442 a couple of posts above this, yet he gets a +1 from Pondo, I get slammed for trying to be less negative than others.
I totally support people trying to be less negative (even though Brexit is a thoroughly depressing and negative event to be living through) - Andy's point was neat and concise and fully in line with my own thoughts, it doesn't mean I don't have sympathy with some or all of anyone else's. It just feels like we've had four shitty years of Leavers Vs Remainers, which is depressing enough - now we're on the cusp, most of the leavers have (ironically!) left and the remainers have started arguing amongst ourselves.
Can't we all just get along? 🙁
It’s great to take a “glass half full” approach to life in general, but when preparing for January, it is not scaremongering to say people should expect supply chain problems. And I for one will absolutely not stop “bashing Boris” for the ongoing mess he has made… he’s had a lifetime of people quietly putting up with his damaging entitled behaviour… I feel no responsibly to join in with that. I have a positive attitude to life, but that absolutely does not extent to joining in with supporting that man in any way. I will not apologise for that.
the forthcoming answer is made to be difficult to achieve to the point it feels personal
I’m sorry for that. I just wanted to encourage you to read the replies many of us had already given, the day before, directly to you. Your apparent surprise at a news story saying exactly what we had been telling you, and then asking for explanations you’d so recently been presented with, got my back up. Let’s all take a relaxing sip from that glass and move on… or at least back onto the subject in hand, not the people posting.