Does anyone else look at our current government with an increasing sense of despair and look back at the floundering incompetence of Theresa May and think 'you know what, actually she wasn't that bad'.
Yes. I think she was sincerely trying to reconcile the irreconcilable. This lot it's just lie upon lie.
‘you know what, actually she wasn’t that bad’.
Absolutely not. She enthusiastically picked up the divisive rhetoric and it's snowballed from there.
Indeed… she went full nationalist… as soon as she picked red lines on “foreign” courts and freedom of movement we weren’t going to find a new way of cooperating with the rest of Europe anywhere close to what we had.
Speaking of previous PM's and BrexShit. This chap seems to have disappeared.
I wonder his honest take on this now.
I'm pretty sure he still (publicly) believes the referendum was an absolute necessity for the country from an interview I saw some time back. Of course it was never needed for the country but he definitely believed it was necessary for the Tory party. Says much for his priorities right there.
Of course other than dividing the country to such a degree the Union itself is in genuine peril, its only papered over the cracks within the party and in fact allowed a coupe from within. His Tory party is effectively dead.
A true lose, lose situation. I couldn't give a fig about the Tories but the collateral damage is another matter.
The ‘shift the blame to the nasty EU’ stage has begun in earnest. It’s going to be a Daily Mail reader’s wet dream, defeat the enemy, save the Union, wave the Union Jack etc.
I don’t remember such brazen, openly dishonest times as these. Truly it has the feel of a ‘post-truth‘ political apocalypse. Add in the wholesale adoption (away from this polite bubble in here) of (US-style) Us vs Them, Red vs Blue, White vs Black, Republic vs ‘Commie’, polarised, dumbed-down idiocy laced with unfurling conspiracy theories at a rate never seen before electronic media. I’m becoming resigned to the fact that it shan’t ever improve. Lies seem always ten steps ahead, re-writing not only the future but also the past.
I’m pretty sure he still (publicly) believes the referendum was an absolute necessity for the country from an interview I saw some time back. Of course it was never needed for the country but he definitely believed it was necessary for the Tory party. Says much for his priorities right there.
Of course other than dividing the country to such a degree the Union itself is in genuine peril, its only papered over the cracks within the party and in fact allowed a coupe from within. His Tory party is effectively dead.
A true lose, lose situation. I couldn’t give a fig about the Tories but the collateral damage is another matter.
Ah, David "consomethinge PR man don't worry he's go this" Cameron.
In actual fact a weak, insecure and shallow man. He needed his racists back from UKIP, or at least he thought he did. So, arrogant twerp that he is, he rolled the dice. Well, that would imply that the stake was all his, but of course he will be alright Jack.
Then promptly ****ed off to write his memoirs. "Memoirs of a PR Man" - I'll pass on reading that one, ta.
Although the pages may come in handy in January when we run out of arsewipe again.
Does anyone else look at our current government with an increasing sense of despair and look back at the floundering incompetence of Theresa May and think ‘you know what, actually she wasn’t that bad’.
I remember saying at the time that whatever came after would be far far worse, but even at my most pessimistic I never imagined this.
We are soooooooo utterly ****ed. The country may never recover from the damage presently being done to it. And all for nothing. It’s a tragedy
They're lining up the narrative for yet more passing of vast sums of public money to Dom's mates.
Started with a few hundred million for non-existent PPE, the Track & Trace app was a nice little bonus of Covid although even without Covid they'd have found something.
Now there's talk of £100bn on Operation Moonshot and "trillion dollar companies" just lying around waiting to be kickstarted in the aftermath of Brexit. Not sure where Dom expects to find the next Apple or Microsoft just lying around, but I'm sure he has several mates he can channel all the money to.
World beating.
This made me laugh...
https://www.lcdviews.com/sovereignty-now-one-of-the-main-food-groups-according-to-government/
I really did think we were through the looking glass when a Tory government decided that state aid was the hill they were going to die on in negotiations
Then I remembered who we were talking about and realised it was just them laying the ground for fraud on an absolutely enormous scale
All that shit with PPE was the dress rehearsal for the big one.
This will be the biggest scam in history. World-beating indeed
I need a job. Where can I sign up to be a COVID-Marshall?
I take that back, seems they nicked the name to describe an on-site job.
Edit, from the independent: The government has not yet released any details on how you can apply to become a Covid-19 Secure Marshal.
Possibly best to think of it as a theoretical job role.
Possibly best to think of it as a theoretical job role.
A bit like Boris considers the role of Prime Minister.
Things that we know from Boris’s insane waffle the other day that definitely won’t be happening:
1. Covid Marshall’s
2. Operation Moonunit
Things that we know from Boris’s insane waffle the other day that definitely will be happening:
1. A No Deal Brexit
2. An utterly chaotic meltdown of the entire UK economy
Looks like Braverman is just another fraud on the make. Inventing fake 'enemies' that she has 'fought against' to defend 'British values'.
If Cohen is correct, she is another sad fantasist who gets off on authoritarian themes and tries to portray herself as a white knight against 'the PC Brigade'.
No wonder she has prostituted herself to a fraud like Johnson. She is a fraud like Johnson.
Is it really any surprise that Johnson/Cummings & co have surrounded themselves with willing supplicants desperate to belong to something...anything. I can only hope that this entire cast of misfits and socially repugnant characters masquerading as a government of competence will eventually be held to account.
Bloody hell, you couldn't make this up.
An other interesting example of the ongoing Tory commitment to upholding the rule of law
eventually be held to account.
You’re joking aren’t you? It’ll be three more years of non elected rotating buffoons and liars until Starmer is voted in. Then this lot will quietly disappear and write their memoirs having made their fortunes for them and their mates. Likely Johnson, Gove replacing him and then Rishi pushed forward as a populous figure to win the vote.
It’ll be three more years of non elected rotating buffoons and liars until Starmer is voted in.
Nope.
They are pulling a Trump and smashing down our institutions for a reason. It's so they get to be boss for as long as they like.
The last election was the last chance at a Labour government (or even a One Nation Tory or Liberal tinged government) ‘till beyond 2030… which is why I tried to persuade even my pro-Brexit traditional Tory voting family and friends to hold their nose and vote Labour, and prevent this lot getting a majority… letting the Vote Leave team get a full term unchecked is letting them dismantle the UK’s democratic norms… disenfranchisement is coming, soon after human rights legislation is torn up, and legal challenges against the government blocked.
You’re joking aren’t you? It’ll be three more years of non elected rotating buffoons and liars until Starmer is voted in.
Who is the joker here?
Sunday torygraph front page
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/09/12/boris-johnson-set-opt-human-rights-laws/
Early 2019 was ‘discussing‘ the exit ‘strategy’ with My Most Brexity Friend.
MR: ‘We’re going to crash out of the EU with no deal’
MMBF: ‘No, we’re going to get a great deal but even no deal means (sic) free to trade with who we want!’
MR: ‘No, it’s a fait accompli. I’m convinced. All the signs are there. They have no plan except ‘no deal’. It’s bullshit. Window-dressing’
MMBF: ‘Anyway, WTO (sic) deal is better than the ****ing EU, something something communist Corbyn, something something (sneers, etc)
MR: ‘We’ll crash out of the EU with no deal, and then you lot will blame it on ‘remainers’ and on ‘the EU‘
MMBF: ‘Yeah, yeah’(largely non-responsive, some scoffing)
I haven’t hung out with my MBF since Xmas 2019 but due for a bike ride this week. We hope to avoid talking politics, and anyway - ‘I told you so’ is an unattractive proposition. Maybe because I’m the one that is hoping I’m proven wrong, whereas my MBF’s ‘superpowers‘ are of the dark triad variety and so will never ever admit defeat/will always divert blame/victim-blame. It’s so pointless to even discuss it. And there is a problem. Entrenchment. Polarisation. Utter division. Am I also guilty of it?
Am I being objective? Because to me it’s still looking like a cluster **** of bodgery, daylight-robbery, blatant lies, and dark-forces doing what dark-forces do.
The irony I suppose is that, now, I too sound very much like my MBF. Similar accusations, just different targets. An impasse. Is there a centrist/balanced view on what is happening? And does it collide with the facts? Am all ears.
IMO this just about sums up where we are today:
As usual, it’s Andrew Rawnsley who has the best take on the gang presently Taking Back Control, pointing out that this is no Tory government in anything but name. It’s just Cummings, the arch-wrecker, smashing everything up
The escalating delinquency of Boris Johnson and his gang of blue anarchists
Many excellent sources report that the prime minister’s chief adviser has an obsessive ambition to direct large amounts of government aid in support of tech ventures.
I wonder why that could be. This is like the days of Mobutu, except he at least had the decency to fleece the US and not pass on any benefits to the population. Cummings and his mates are getting set for the big one-off heist.
I'm increasingly thinking this is a ram raid on the British economy and state.
I’m increasingly thinking this is a ram raid on the British economy and state.
It always was for the 0.001%
'Shock Doctrine' or 'Disaster Capitalism' it doesn't really matter what you call it. Upsetting the apple cart creates opportunities for 'thrusting innovative entrepreneurship' (aka spivs). Even better when you can control the shocks (mostly) and tip the nod to your mates what to bet against or where to put their money. Or which sectors are going to get a big load spaffed at them.
What Cummings is doing would be called insider trading if it was done by anyone else on a smaller scale. Apparently if you do it at nation level it is ok.
I still, just, only just, am holding back from actually wishing any physical harm would happen to him. That is a mental line I don't want to cross for my own self respect.
But if he went under a bus I would struggle not be pleased.
I hope he doesn't get his lawbreaking bill passed and he is stuck with a trade deal with EU (even if we are a bit worse off) and no deal with the yanks because I always thought that would end badly. It would serve all those morons right that gave him their vote last year and TBH they have no-one to blame but themselves I mean what kind of a moron votes for a prolific liar that even on the odd occasion he tries to keep his word he fails miserably because he is not very bright.
Likelyhood of Scotland ever being given a referendum and any desire for a border poll in Ireland being blocked? I don't see the London mayor surviving much longer either. They form alternative power bases and that means a threat.
they have no-one to blame but themselves
Not how Nationalism/populism works. Quite the opposite. Scapegoat is on the menu. Served with a side-helping of dead cat. Every day.
Not how Nationalism/populism works. Quite the opposite. Scapegoat is on the menu. Served with a side-helping of dead cat. Every day.
Yep. Day in, day out. It can't be your fault because you're special. It must be foreigners, pinkos, remoaner traitors, EU etc.
When Brexit is inescapably (to anyone with more than one brain cell) shown to be a ridiculous and massive fail, one of two things is going to happen.
When I talk about 'Leavers' next, I don't mean the out and out racists for whom Brexit was only ever a step on the road. Even though all the racists voted Leave, not everyone who voted Leave was a racist.
So, these more moderate Leavers, the ones who actually thought they were voting for a better future (I know, I know but bear with me). They are presented with a choice. Admit, even if only to themselves, that they were sold a pup and swallowed it hook, line and sinker (mixing metaphors). They may get angry and aim that anger where it should be. On the shysters that sold it to them. Or they can take the easy option, double down and go full fascist.
The likes of The Telegraph, Mail etc, as well as the shysters themselves, will be attempting to give the easy option, day after day.
I would say, from the last 4.5 years, it is about 65/35 in favour of double down full fascist. If that happens, I am going to do my best to persuade my wife that it is time to emigrate. Hers is a sought after profession in NZ, and I like to think I am pretty employable. Family ties are strong on her side of the family, though, so it will be very difficult.
Bollocks to Brexit. Damn that ship and all who sail in it.
Move north Danny?
Move north Danny?
Do you honestly think you're going to be allowed another ref?
Move north Danny?
Maybe. I was going to say it is too chilly for my soft southern skin, but our addiction to fossil fuels is seeing to that.
The trouble is going to be ageing parents with limited other family around. I can't believe I'm even thinking this seriously about getting out. Saddening.
Do you honestly think you’re going to be allowed another ref?
It's different up here already. Our government, public services, ethos of education, heck even a lot of the people who live here. We don't need a second referendum to actually be already creating the society many want to live in - and its more positive than much of England imo, and way better than the direction Westminster is intent on dragging us.
Plus we've better trails, bigger mountains and amazeballs beaches when you do need to console/get away from the idiots.
Not how Nationalism/populism works. Quite the opposite. Scapegoat is on the menu. Served with a side-helping of dead cat. Every day.
Quite right, however little ingerland (wider UK) will be a land of its own. They can blame all they like but if every other sensible country stand against them there is nothing they can do but rot in their own resentment..
I'm really afraid for my kids, my wife (who is European). Not a day goes by that she doesn't get a reminder from the general public that she doesn't belong here and if she doesn't like it should go home. Actually she is home and has lived here for 30 odd years. Makes me so angry...
So the Japan trade deal holds us to a state aid position that we are telling the EU is outrageou to be asked to commit to:
https://www.ft.com/content/edb7d155-56b4-4065-9f83-31b2247fa178
But… but… sovereignty?!?
[ USA will be even more strict ]
Looks like Boris might be in for a rough week...
https://twitter.com/itvnewspolitics/status/1305266569371623425?s=21
The sad fact is that he will not care. It would take whole groups of MPs leaving or voting against him to make a difference and those would be labelled as enemies of the people and replaced.
As for the Human Rights rolling back, I can see the narrative now... I prevents the U.K. from prosecuting or expelling dangerous foreign criminals. Do you honk it is fair that (foreigner X) should have a nice warm prison cell in the U.K. and not be sent home to (country Z)?
