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oldman - not yet but the change is minimal I think


 
Posted : 31/01/2024 9:04 pm
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I thought the EU mandated the integrity of their market? If you cancel checks on the sea border surely those checks will need to be reinstated at the land border?

No checks mean free movement of goods?


 
Posted : 31/01/2024 10:18 pm
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Personally I think it's an excuse to suspend the parliament. DUP are struggling more with Sinn Fein being in the top jobs. It'll fall apart again hopefully the incumbent has to serve xx years in a working devolved government and not just xx years from election to election, if latter I can almost pinpoint the date DUP allows stormont to sit again.


 
Posted : 31/01/2024 10:26 pm
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I thought the EU mandated the integrity of their market? If you cancel checks on the sea border surely those checks will need to be reinstated at the land border?

No checks mean free movement of goods?

It is and always was going to be a fudge. Luckily the EU value the GFA more than the tories/brexiteers do.


 
Posted : 31/01/2024 10:35 pm
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Personally I think it’s an excuse to suspend the parliament.

Of course it was


 
Posted : 31/01/2024 10:37 pm
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Personally I think it’s an excuse to suspend the parliament.

Also the perfect chance to extract some more money.


 
Posted : 31/01/2024 10:41 pm
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FTFY

Also the perfect chance to extract extort some more money.


 
Posted : 01/02/2024 8:54 am
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BTW wasn’t it the anniversary yesterday 🙂

Brexit Update

Still,never gonna find out which law my fellow countryman were so appalled by they had to leave the eu or a quantifiable Brexit benefit for the masses that offsets the losses 🙂


 
Posted : 01/02/2024 9:06 am
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They are still pedalling the vaccine rollout as a benefit 🙁


 
Posted : 01/02/2024 9:08 am
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nicely summed up here

https://twitter.com/Exploding_Heads/status/1707685121120203228?t=rmdFdhkKJDIggUfnp7EP_g&s=19


 
Posted : 01/02/2024 9:20 am
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They are still pedalling the vaccine rollout as a benefit 🙁

Didn't we get overtaken by some of the EU anyway?  Think we were only temporarily the bestest ones...


 
Posted : 01/02/2024 9:24 am
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Yup... we got out of the gate first... using a vaccine developed and produced in the EU and approved using the EU rules we were still operating under.


 
Posted : 01/02/2024 9:32 am
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I was stupid enough to waste time fact checking some of that Brexit update guff. I stopped at London being the best place in the world to live. Car production is down year on year every year since 2016. Growth rate ? Well if you cherry pick favourable dates and the worst possible reference countries for comparison it might look good, but now look at GDP per capita and Germany is way ahead even if it's not growing. Innovation? Choose the the most favourable poll with contested criteria and you win, stick to what innovation really means and you end up behind Belgium.

https://fr.finance.yahoo.com/news/25-most-innovative-economies-2024-203515105.html?guccounter=1

When spin = bollocks.


 
Posted : 01/02/2024 9:42 am
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A minor inconvenience the actual truth 🙂


 
Posted : 01/02/2024 9:43 am
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That graph a couple of pages back, how come it was 20% overall yet not a single detail item got near 20%?


 
Posted : 01/02/2024 9:54 am
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This one?

negative

All the extra is the warm feeling of being sovereign and letting our politicians wreck things in a UK GB only way


 
Posted : 01/02/2024 10:05 am
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Let them eat sovereignty


 
Posted : 01/02/2024 10:10 am
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[ to be clear, politicians in EU countries can also get a lot wrong, both collectively and nationally... but a small minority of people in this country will always say Brexit has a good impact on the UK even if they can only actually list negative impacts... simply because the mistakes made on our behalf can be seen as British mistakes ]


 
Posted : 01/02/2024 10:10 am
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More seriously... that graph... many of those replying will think that Brexit has only been positive in one or two areas... but those areas really matter to them so consider the overall impact as positive.


 
Posted : 01/02/2024 10:17 am
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Kelvin - yep, that one, just didn't add up or is it like usual, folk unable to actually support their 'beliefs' with facts?


 
Posted : 01/02/2024 10:23 am
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Another poll. Things are moving from "Brexit is bad" to "I'd vote to rejoin" quite quickly. I wonder where we'll be in 5 years time...?

deltapoll


 
Posted : 20/02/2024 2:57 pm
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I wonder where we’ll be in 5 years time…?

Hopefully with the heads of Tice, Banks, Farage etc...etc on spikes outside parliament


 
Posted : 20/02/2024 3:00 pm
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Is a sample size of 1519 representative?

I wouldn't consider extrapolating anything from that.

EDIT: sample size would need to 2400 for it to be representative, using 95% confidence interval, +/-2% margin of error and accepted sampling techniques.


 
Posted : 20/02/2024 3:41 pm
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That's normal polling. I was just linking to the data rather than another graph (because I find it in quite telling how the answers vary by age group). All these polls are a similar sample size.


 
Posted : 20/02/2024 3:54 pm
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Thing is, that polling looks like most of the polling before the 2016 referendum despite many of the old ****ers who voted Brexit being dead. There seems to be a new generation of old ****ers to replace them.


 
Posted : 20/02/2024 5:31 pm
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I wonder where we’ll be in 5 years time…?

Willing to perform any number of illegal, immoral and improbable acts in return for being allowed back into the EU on far worse terms than we left.

And still being blocked by the French.


 
Posted : 20/02/2024 6:10 pm
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Thing is, that polling looks like most of the polling before the 2016 referendum despite many of the old * who voted Brexit being dead. There seems to be a new generation of old * to replace them.

Indeed, but Brexit happened due to voter apathy, especially in the younger age groups in whom the importance of voting has not really been instilled.  If it were re-ran today, I'd wager that the pro Europe campaign would specifically target those groups.

Interestingly - there are now more over 65s in the UK than there are under 12s, which means that 65+ represents a pretty sizable voter percentage.


 
Posted : 21/02/2024 8:31 am
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See Dyson moaned to Hunt about post brexit brain drain and corporation tax, ****s both of them.


 
Posted : 24/03/2024 6:07 pm
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Him and Tim Martin can get in the ****ing sea. ****s.


 
Posted : 24/03/2024 8:00 pm
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You can't run an economy on an ideology, history is littered with worked examples.


 
Posted : 25/03/2024 12:10 am
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Whinge on the beeb about passport validity. Multiple cases of moaners all saying the same thing - it's someone else's responsibility.

I thought it was particularly interesting because of their shared demographics...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68677938


 
Posted : 30/03/2024 10:36 am
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That whinge about passports, each of them needs a buff around the ears.

Bad Europe not letting people travel on our of date passports. You know like before brexit when you couldn't travel abroad on our of date passports.

Dicks.


 
Posted : 30/03/2024 11:06 am
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You know like before brexit when you couldn’t travel abroad on our of date passports.

I’ve no particular time for the people caught out, check your documents yourself etc, but the passports  weren’t out of date, they were in date but more than ten years old and they could travel on them before brexit so this is a proper brexit bonus


 
Posted : 30/03/2024 11:14 am
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‘Losing’ a load of money on a holiday because you didn’t check if your passport was still valid is just stupidity tax


 
Posted : 30/03/2024 11:28 am
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Whenever the BBC prints an interview with one of these people, they should have to flag whether they voted for Brexit or not.

My suspicion is that all the people interviewed wanted to “take are country back”.


 
Posted : 30/03/2024 1:18 pm
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For years I din't need a passport, my ID card was good enough to visit the UK. Even fewer French people have a Passport than Americans.

Realising that the need for a passport was one of the things that had killed the séjour linguistique business the UK government has allowed French kids in on a French ID card since 12/23. Still no trips from Madame Edukator's school though because some of the kids in the school aren't European and need a passport and an expensive Visa not just an ID card. The school won't excluded the children of immigrants  because that would be discrimination so there are still no trips. Well there are trips, Madame Edukator is off on a jolly to Hambourg with her group while others head for Spain.


 
Posted : 30/03/2024 1:25 pm
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Ed, I think you've brought that up before. Utterly predictable and a loss all round.


 
Posted : 30/03/2024 2:13 pm
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‘Losing’ a load of money on a holiday because you didn’t check if your passport was still valid is just stupidity tax

they did check their passport - their passport was in date. It was more than ten years old but hasn’t expired.


 
Posted : 30/03/2024 2:41 pm
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I have no sympathy for the passport moaners.


 
Posted : 30/03/2024 2:50 pm
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People who voted for tighter border controls are shocked at the implementation of tighter border controls!

It's an outrage! Lol!


 
Posted : 30/03/2024 3:17 pm
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UK government has allowed French kids in on a French ID card since 12/23

I didn’t know that.

As you say, school trips are now elsewhere and won’t be coming back. Connections lost. Ireland now a popular destination with schools I know of in Northern France. Learning English is still valued. Taking groups of kids to England less so.


 
Posted : 30/03/2024 3:42 pm
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Whinge on the beeb about passport validity. Multiple cases of moaners all saying the same thing – it’s someone else’s responsibility.

I thought it was particularly interesting because of their shared demographics…

Can folk under 55 not afford foreign holidays these days, or do they lack the sense of entitlement that leads to the “I’m British and therefore my passport is valid” attitude?


 
Posted : 30/03/2024 4:35 pm
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Dunno.

I do know that if want to swim in safe water, off safe beaches, we need to get out of England and into the EU.

💩🏊‍♂️


 
Posted : 30/03/2024 4:44 pm
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they did check their passport – their passport was in date. It was more than ten years old but hasn’t expired.

In date but not valid as is made absolutely clear on the GOV travel website which is the same sire that tells you how many months you need left on it as well.


 
Posted : 30/03/2024 5:35 pm
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Scotland isn't in the EU.


 
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