They are stronger than you would think.
I've had a 500ml Coke bottle explode on a car seat when left in the summer sun.
There was the ability not to charge VAT on energy bills.
However that seems to have been quietly forgotten.
Which should have happened on freedom day 🙂 as an instant Brexit bonus.
What I do remember is the instant run away from the promised NHS bus money.
Yep… Spain have just cut the Vat on leccie by another 5%
Approximately a year ago we lowered VAT on electricity from 21% to 10% and on Saturday we are going to lower VAT from 10% to 5%," the president said, a measure that should reduce electricity bills even further.
The reduction of VAT on electricity to 10%, together with the special tax on electricity to the authorised minimum of 0.5% and the suspension of the 7% tax on the Value of Production of Electric Energy, was agreed for the first time in December 2021.
Ah well didn’t take long for the new law to get used.
That Brexit protestor Steve Bray has been shut down.
If I've read that right (I may not have) he was arrested under an older law?
The new act is obviously wrong, but seemed unconnected to the actual case?
Yep, the secret sauce is better reported in the independent.
Home Secretary Priti Patel's new law extended a "controlled area" around parliament to include Parliament Square and other side streets, where the protest has based itself.
A little tweak here and a little tweak there to the law and the next minute it’s goose stepping with a funny wave up the Strand in the Hugo Boss 🙂
More like Top Man or Burtons.....
Well thank goodness for Brexit, I mean if we hadn't had Brexit we wouldn't have been able to shut down the Brexit protestor, and then where would the country be? Awash with noisy Brexit protestors everywhere, that's what.
Which should have happened on freedom day
What actually did happen on freedom day? It must be my memory going funny - I'm sure lots of things were instantly better. Can anyone remind me?
BBC PM on farming right now...
Talking to farmers who can't get seasonal workers, so have had to scale back what they grow and fire full time workers. Producing less of our own food, and putting our farm workers out of work... not quite what we were promised.
not quite what we were promised
but it is what was predicted by people with functioning brains.
What actually did happen on freedom day? It must be my memory going funny – I’m sure lots of things were instantly better. Can anyone remind me?
Some forrin virus turned up and ruined it for everyone.
but it is what was predicted by people with functioning brains.
But didn't UK farmers vote for brexit quite overwhelmingly, as did fishermen? They are quite literally reaping what they sowed.. Were they were expecting compensation for lost trade or lost EU subsidies from the conservatives? Lol!
What actually did happen on freedom day?
This guy briefly felt smug
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But didn’t UK farmers vote for brexit quite overwhelmingly, as did fishermen?
Not quite as simple as that generalisation, The Pelagic fleet (east coast mega ships) overwhelmingly voted for Brexit whereas the Shellfish fleet (west coast ) overwhelmingly voted remain as 90% of their catch goes to European markets. According to a report by the industry trade body and fishing news (trade paper)
Similar split between large agri farms run by conglomerates who voted for Brexit whereas small crofts/individual/family run farms voted remain.
Ooh I found an actual brexit plus! Some of the Unboxed festival stuff actually looks pretty cool. And it started out as the Festival of Brexit but got rebranded and retooled when they realised how toxic it all was. So hurrah for things that only exist because they started out as flagshagging brexit bullshit but became something better with all the brexitness surgically removed
TBH the Millennium dome and olympics showed we were good at that sort of thing any way, it’s just that the gov don’t really like spending the cash(on the plebs).
Clever move by the organisers in hijacking it from the toxicity of the Brexit brand thou 🙂
Each time Steve Bray gets hassled I send him a tenner - hopefully plenty of other people are too and he can keep on reminding us just what people voted for.
Every day that passes I'm more contemptuous of anyone who votes Tory and luckily I live in a part of the UK that has the ability to get out of this toxic environment.
Another Brexit Benefit for the NHS…
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/nhs-linen-shortage-brexit-beds-b2111058.html
‘Only change linen if essential’: Hospital staff told to cut back on fresh sheets amid Brexit shortages
Textile Services Association warns that ‘shortages of linen and laundry will have a knock-on effect on the provision of beds in trusts’
Sunlit uplands people. Sunlit uplands.
*Sigh*
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/05/eu-scraps-115-grants-uk-scientists-academics-brexit-row
brexit was a tool to get the current lot in power, and look what they've done with that power.
I do have a giggle that the U.K. is going to be quietly handing over £9.4bn as part the divorce payments and ah due to the low pound it’s more than anticipated.
None of the benefits and still paying.
The hidden cost for BJ and co to have jolly japes is mind numbing.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-62049326
Reality is starting to hit, and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
It's been hitting the NHS for about the past 6 years.
brexit was a tool to get the current lot in power, and look what they’ve done with that power.
My usually quote - "Brexit isn't the destination, it's the vehicle"
What they've done is destabilise the UK enough to enabling the resetting of society to put folk back in their place:
AKA ordinary folk will be back to doffing their cap to their betters
I think this joke sums up brexit better than I ever could..
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=moAZ3AsyhLU
Just a comment - This Brexit thread is not the same at the Economy thread that just got closed.
And herein shows the misunderstanding of the wider economy versus the effects of Brexit.
Two different ships.
Brexit is still damaging to the economy. The degree is up for debate, but it is becoming more apparent as the gap between the UK and the EU post-covid opens up. As a population we are still more vaccinated than virtually everyone else on earth. Yet our recovery is now lagging noticeably behind that of the EU. I wonder what that could be caused by...
Actually, I don't, it is the totally unnecessary and stupid isolationism of Brexit. Even the quiet Lexity fans aren't going to be able to wish it away for much longer.
But Brexit (or Lexit) is a religion, so can neither be understood nor criticised.
<Shrugs>
And herein shows the misunderstanding of the wider economy versus the effects of Brexit.
Two different ships
But they are very much connected.
Kind of like a Catamaran, I guess.
Truss's bullshit is going to be exposed soon too. There's no way the EU is going roll over on the NI protocol and no way the UK can stand the inflationary pressure of a trade war with the EU.
🤷♂️
Talking to farmers who can’t get seasonal workers, so have had to scale back what they grow and fire full time workers. Producing less of our own food, and putting our farm workers out of work… not quite what we were promised.
That doesn't tell the whole story (I haven't listened to the R4 item)
Our son applied for this summer to a farm not too far away and they wouldn't take him on. Why? Because they wanted him to live in their caravan park and he intended driving. He has several years of seasonal job references, good timekeeping, etc.
It's not too much of a stretch to imagine their economic model to be pay you a wage with one hand and take the cost of your accommodation away with the other because they've already invested in caravans.
^^^
If they do have to flog the caravans at a loss that'll go on the price to the consumer.
Or they'll just give it **** it and flog the land for hundreds of boxy 3 bed detached identikit shacks on a postage stamp plot.
Either way Brexit won't help the average UK citizen. Nor will it ever.
So the bill grows again.
Remember this is just the taxpayer / treasury payments - this is not the increased cost of doing business, or the lost trade, or the consequential cost to so many of us when buying, travelling or engaging with other European countries.
Sunlit uplands
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1550156669769900033
and let us not forget the lies and 'project fear' response at the time:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1550158229228888067
All I know is that is delays all the stuff from work I'm trying to send, even if it is declared customs objects. The stuff that used to take two days now takes 7 at least and I'm paying increased customs charges filling in more forms and I can see no Bre5h1t benefits yet...
JeZ
I assume that the French border controls now being in Dover and causing huge delays are part of the brexit dividend.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-62263176
Sounds like the French took back control of their borders 😂
Sounds like the French [s]took back control[/s] [b]had never lost control of their borders, neither had we[/b] of their borders
FTFY.
Sounds like the French
took back controlhad never lost control of their borders, neither had weof their bordersuntil now, it seems...
Further amends...
Daughter is heading off on a music tour via Dover on tomorrow. I suspect departures will be brought forward
Don't they know who we are ?
Don’t they know who we are ?
They are becoming increasingly aware these days. Probably more aware than half the people sitting in the queue moaning. Besides, checking the status of random people trying to enter your country is vital, I've been told.
the daily fail are having kittens
EU 'punishing' British holidaymakers because of Brexit:
as Spain has started enforcing the £85 a day rule.
TBH I have a feeling there’s some shite stirring going on by the papers to persuade you to not go to Spain for some reason.
It’s a 3rd party country thing,they are unlikely to ask you, but if they think your attempting to enter the country for nefarious purposes.
3. Documents accrediting the purpose and conditions of the planned stay: At the request of the competent authorities, the reasons and conditions of the planned stay must be accredited by documentary proof or other means. To this end, the presentation, among others, of the following documents may be required:
Return or tourist circuit ticket, in all cases.
For professional trips, the invitation from a company or authority to participate in a meeting, or documents that prove the existence of a relationship associated with professional activity, or access cards to a trade fair or congress.
For tourist or private visits, the confirmed reservation of an organized trip, or proof of accommodation, or letter of invitation from a private individual (such a letter only proves the availability of accommodation and does not release the traveller from the obligation to meet the other requirements for entry). The proof of accommodation may indicate whether it includes all or part of the traveller's living expenses.
For study trips, training programmes, non-work internships or volunteer work with a duration of less than three months, enrolment documentation or proof of admission to an educational establishment or internship contract or proof of admission to a volunteer programme.For travel for other reasons, an invitation, reservation, programme or certificate of participation in related activities, entrance card/ticket, or receipt.
My personal favourite is the bank statement - how retro 🙂
Accreditation of financial means
At the request of the competent authorities, the traveller must present proof of having sufficient financial means for the proposed stay or of the ability to legally obtain such means.
In 2020, the minimum amount required is 90 euros per person per day. In any case, and regardless of the length of stay, the traveller must have at least 810 euros or its equivalent in foreign currency.
Economic means may be accredited by presenting cash, traveller's cheques, a credit card accompanied by a bank account statement, an up-to-date bank book, or any other resource that accredits the amount available, such as a credit statement regarding the card or bank account. Bank letters or online bank statements will not be accepted.
So a family of four on a two week holiday to Beni would need to show they have €5040.
I expect the Spanish tourist board are having a melt down over this 🙂
Spanish tourist board are having a melt down over this
are they like the German Car Industry ?
