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behind the scenes, Johnson always quietly folds when actually faced with tough choices with real world consequences

Just like Thatcher then!


 
Posted : 21/05/2022 9:59 am
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The short-sightedness and attitude of "well, it doesn't bother me" from the people responsible for negotiating the agreement was astounding. Thanks to the incompetence of Grant Shapps, I cannot work legally anywhere in Europe because my professional qualifications are no longer recognised. Conversely, my job in the UK can be taken quite cheerfully by an EU citizen.

It would have take just a tiny bit of effort on his part to ensure that our qualifications are reflected both ways, but he was too lazy to do it.

I will never forgive this Government, the ministers, and above all the racist and/or elderly ignorant pricks that voted for it in the first place.


 
Posted : 21/05/2022 10:10 am
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It would have take just a tiny bit of effort on his part to ensure that our qualifications are reflected both ways, but he was too lazy to do it.

Ah details, the public don’t want details 🙂

It’s almost like they did it to keep you in.


 
Posted : 21/05/2022 10:18 am
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I like Nancy Pelosi.

It needs to be made very clear that it’s not just her stating her own personal position…

https://twitter.com/repbrendanboyle/status/1528377204190728196?s=21


 
Posted : 22/05/2022 5:27 pm
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Some might forget the close link between domestic terrorism, organised crime and smuggling between the north and the south when you have differing tax regimes for things like petrol, tobacco and any other commodity that can be illicitly traded. Ditching the Protocol and any tax/duty harmonisation means that whole can of worms gets opened again.


 
Posted : 22/05/2022 5:43 pm
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TBH it’s what irks me that you need to be in something ‘like’ the SM and CU to really make everything work without causing the pain that has been/going to be inflected.

Lots of pain for a few cheap lamb cuts an steaks an blue passports and I doubt if the funding that was promised to replace the eu schemes will ever been seen at the levels it was.


 
Posted : 22/05/2022 6:32 pm
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I doubt if the funding that was promised to replace the eu schemes will ever been seen at the levels it was.

Of course it won't. This is what amazes me. People thought that Tories would invest in their areas. That's just not what Tories do, it's not what they're about. Anyone who knows the first thing about politics would know that.


 
Posted : 22/05/2022 7:55 pm
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Interesting article on ta interweb bout our bubbles

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-61408745

In the UK, the number of people existing solely in just tiny political echo chambers online are "not nothing, but the figures are smaller than you might think".
The estimate, he says, "is that 5% of UK internet users are in a left wing echo chamber, and 2% in a right wing echo chamber," but he says this has to be put in the context that "26% of internet users in the UK have not accessed any online news at all in the past week".


 
Posted : 23/05/2022 7:27 am
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But molgrips, the vast bulk of the populace know nothing about actual policies, or inter state relations, or intra state governance... and don't care. They are easily lead, and do not think. As some unpleasant Austrian once pointed out.

Where do I find thier output – the opportunity they are being paid to promote and which I was promised?

The single opportunity so far is that of the useless Minister for Victorian Workhouse Reintroduction getting a new title.

Much like the Minister of Levelling Up. Do let us know how that one is going, Gove.


 
Posted : 23/05/2022 7:33 am
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Well may as well put an interesting fact that RM has a cock on his family coat of arms.


 
Posted : 23/05/2022 7:41 am
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Ah don’t forget the covid vaccination roll out.

It’s a lie but what’s another to friends.

Truth is always the first casualty of ‘war’.


 
Posted : 23/05/2022 7:42 am
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The rich don’t need rights… they have the means.

Yep, and applies to the majority of their life - see abortion, rich women can always get a safe abortion.

And to agree with the FOM for ordinary folk - early in 2000 we'd an issue at work in our German business unit. It needed someone with 'character' to go over and 'sort it'.

They asked me whether I would. Within 2 months I'd rented a house, personally as we didn't like the offer of a company flat and wanted a garden (OH and 1 y/o), and moved with everything in the back of a wagon, including my motorbike. UK house emptied on the Monday, they got the ferry and we met them there on the Wednesday and moved in.

Neither I nor the company had to ask anyone for 'permission'.

And when I'd sorted it out, just moved back.

Now, this would need a lot of effort on the part of the company to sort out, and quite frankly, they'd just employ an EU27 passport holder to do it instead.

Leaving note - an EU27 passport holder now has more rights in both the EU and UK than I have. Why? Because the idiots not only voted to remove my FOM, they then voted for a hard-right Govt that can now remove my right to a UK passport.


 
Posted : 23/05/2022 8:35 am
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I was actually at a Brit enclave in Spain yesterday idly wondering about all the people that had sold up and moved over without the requirement for health insurance and a minimal monthly income.

No more just rocking up moving in and signing on the ‘padron’.

FOM was great tbh, you got the rights without needing a big wedge.


 
Posted : 23/05/2022 8:53 am
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Tbh there were regs and rules but the amounts required to fulfil them were way less than now.

And even in my notsobrit area they are fining people for driving on U.K. licences(not tourists- residents or if you put yourself on the padron ).


 
Posted : 23/05/2022 8:56 am
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Load of lies or enemies of the people? What are your thoughts?

Emails


 
Posted : 26/05/2022 11:32 am
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Riiding round the highlands this week its obvious how many cafes and hotels are running reduced service or hours for lack of staff. One chap said £14 per hour was being advertised for cleaners and still trouble recruiting


 
Posted : 26/05/2022 11:41 am
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One chap said £14 per hour was being advertised for cleaners

So proof that Brexit will increase wages and opportunities then ?

** I voted remain and still think that Brexit is the worst thing that has happened in my lifetime but there's little point using a positive to try and prove a negative**


 
Posted : 26/05/2022 5:29 pm
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Paying someone that doesn't exist an imaginary wage doesn't prove much. Many bits of the UK will really struggle for staff this summer. Rural areas of Scotland in particular. Not paying anyone anything, because there is no one doing the job, isn't exactly going to help the local economy.


 
Posted : 26/05/2022 5:36 pm
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We are about to see a good old fashioned recession... this will to some degree adjust the labour market (in an unpleasant way)

Demand on all goods even food is dropping at a phenomenal rate. If we all cut back by even 10% then the impact is huge. All the indicators are there, even Rushi cant borrow his way out of this one.

Apparently nothing to do with Brexit.


 
Posted : 26/05/2022 5:59 pm
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Lots of businesses on the islands still struggling to recruit hospitality staff this far into the season. One cafe has closed and another running reduced hours due to lack of staff. The whole issue of cleaners/housekeepers on the islands is increasingly contentious - there was a bit of a stooshie on the local FB page when a non-islander was looking for someone to clean their rental when there’s an absolute dearth of long-term rental accommodation for locals such as teachers and nurses. Besides, £250/weekend for 6 months of cleaning up some else’s shit is hardly rolling in it. I trade at the local market - everyone’s sales are way down in comparison to last year.


 
Posted : 26/05/2022 7:32 pm
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Leaving note – an EU27 passport holder now has more rights in both the EU and UK than I have. Why? Because the idiots not only voted to remove my FOM, they then voted for a hard-right Govt that can now remove my right to a UK passport.

As an Anglo/Irish dual, I now have more rights than anyone else in Europe. Now remind me who are the idiots.


 
Posted : 26/05/2022 7:45 pm
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Pub i am in tight now also is on reduced service for lack of staff

Direct tesult of brexit cos these highland pubs ran for years on eu staff ongap years. Even with good wages being offered tbey just cannot get staff


 
Posted : 26/05/2022 7:52 pm
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Doesn't seem to have affected the amount you appear to have drunk...


 
Posted : 26/05/2022 8:07 pm
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Now remind me who are the idiots.

Leave voters.


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 8:52 am
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Leave voters.

Now, that's not fair. Some of them were cynical opportunists.


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 8:56 am
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Now, that’s not fair. Some of them were cynical opportunists.

You're absolutely right. I must learn to watch my p's and q's.


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 9:07 am
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Watching Question Time last night was interesting. It was from Belfast and I've never seen an audience so angry

And with good reason. There can be no starker illustration of the absolute folly of Brexit than the present situation in NI. But then it was always going to be like that. The Good Friday Agreement is, was and always will be completely incompatible with the whole principle of Brexit and the NI protocol

The audience was completely divided. On the one hand you have those that are reasonably happy as they are enjoying the advantages of essentially remaining in the Customs Union and Single Market. And who can blame them? The fact that NI trade is prospering stands as daily evidence of the utter stupidity of this whole ludicrous project.

Then you've got the permanently irate idiots of the DUP who still can't seem to accept that Boris Johnson sold them down the river for the sake of Brexit. It was pointed out to them repeatedly that Theresa May negotiated a deal that addressed their concerns but they voted against it, then they voted for Johnsons deal, complete with border down the Irish Sea

God knows where we go from here. Unilaterally ripping up deals? The collapse of the GFA?

But Northern Ireland is presently a right mess, politically, and that is entirely down to Boris Johnson and his band of Brexiteers. The irony of that being that they don't actually give a flying ****!


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 10:20 am
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But Northern Ireland is presently a right mess, politically, and that is entirely down to Boris Johnson and his band of Brexiteers.

Nature abhors a vacuum...


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 2:42 pm
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God knows where we go from here.

United Ireland.
Independent Scotland.


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 2:57 pm
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United Ireland.
Independent Scotland.

Ultimately yes. Probably.

But how much blood will be spilt in the interim?

And for what?


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 3:07 pm
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the permanently irate idiots of the DUP who still can’t seem to accept that Boris Johnson sold them down the river for the sake of Brexit

I could be completely wrong (I've tried to understand Irish politics but don't always succeed) but it looks to me as if the DUP voted for Brexit specifically to screw up the GFA and strengthen border controls between NI and Éire.


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 3:51 pm
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I think you're crediting them with too much intelligence there.


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 4:32 pm
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it looks to me as if the DUP voted for Brexit specifically to screw up the GFA and strengthen border controls between NI and Éire

In a sense that politics is not real 'yes'. The reality that results is always, seemingly, a surprise to the nutjobs and idiots. Despite having had it pointed out to them beforehand.

Such is life. If a majority of people can be duped into believing inevitable consequences are 'Project Fear' then we are ****ed.

For example- what do you think happens when you turn your back on frictionless trade with your closest neighbours? And ones that form a bloc of 27 countries with a combined supply and demand that far exceeds your own?

You don't need to be a professor of economics to work that one out.


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 7:00 pm
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The Good Friday Agreement is, was and always will be completely incompatible with the whole principle of Brexit and the NI protocol

The GFA is incompatible with a hard Brexit. The NI protocol is compatible with the GFA, so the EU believes. The impossible triangle consists of the protocol, the Brexit the UK negotiated and a UK - wide free trade zone. Pick any two.


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 10:57 pm
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Pick any two.

Johnson struggles to pick his nose. Ask Carrie - if you can find her.


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 11:09 pm
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As an Anglo/Irish dual, I now have more rights than anyone else in Europe.

Which rights do you have over say Anglo/French dual? Or Canadian/French dual?


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 5:38 pm
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Meh,well it’s been over a month since I last drove as my U.K. driving licence isn’t recognised in Spain and I can’t take a driving test as you need a residency to hold a licence.(that was also supposed to to be in days err a month ago).

It’s an interesting perspective, these little gotchas.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 8:39 pm
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Edukator - residence rights in the UK and freedom of movement into the UK - because of the UK / Ireland common travel area


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 8:43 pm
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I have that as Anglo/French, TJ. And a French/Canadian would have fredom of movement in Canada and the EU which is EU plus one country other too.

Any dual Anglo/Somewhere in EU give you the same rights as dual UK/Irish so I'm intrigued by these extra UK/Irish rights as opposed to any other UK/European dual, hence the question in my last post.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 8:58 pm
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I doubt that very much, as they where Royal Single regiment and not SAS. </pedant>

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Posted : 29/05/2022 9:57 pm
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if the DUP voted for Brexit specifically to screw up the GFA and strengthen border controls between NI and Éire.

The charitable interpretation is they saw that with the increasing blurred border if we remained inside the EU that long term trend being inevitably to a reunited Ireland and so hoped the brexit would manage to disrupt it.
The less charitable is they are a bunch of creationist nutcases whose only modern political idea was the cash for ashes corruption.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 10:04 pm
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Edukator - its freedom of movement without even needing a passport Look up the ireland / Uk common travel area. An irish passport gives you more rights.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 10:06 pm
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Beep, boop, Sterling crisis incoming, right on cue!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-30/sterling-risks-existential-crisis-with-em-parallels-bofa-says

Stagflation, Oil Crisis, Sterling Crisis, Trade Crisis

What else do we need to complete the 'Sick Man of Europe' 70s collection? Mass unemployment, I guess, but that's a bit further down the track.


 
Posted : 31/05/2022 11:16 am
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We do have mass unemployment. Its just hidden by zero hours contracts and throwing folk of benefits


 
Posted : 31/05/2022 11:20 am
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But it's OK, number five on the list of potential Brexit benefits appears to be derestricted ebikes.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1618395/Brexit-news-Boris-Johnson-2000-ideas-Jacob-Rees-Mogg-suggestions-EU-rules-update

The other stuff also appears to be pesky regulations that stop people dying, stuffing up the environment, or hurting other people, or being worked to death or paid properly. And hoovers.

No mention of banana bendiness though, so I'm disappointed.


 
Posted : 31/05/2022 11:32 am
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