A good article by Michael Heseltine in todays Guardian regarding the link with Borises unlikely survival Brexit
Why the panic among Boris Johnson’s allies? Because they know Brexit is unravelling
There is an air of desperation in attacks from those on the right and their supporters in the press. They fear if Johnson falls, the Brexit deception will crumble too
Personally I think he's being a bit overly-optimistic. It's not like anyone sane is going to take over from Johnson and usher in a less destructive relationship with our neighbours, is it? Thats ship already sailed when Johnson purged the party of all but the cultists
I think he’s right that Brexit could be an opportunity to address some of the structural problems in our economy.
Yes, that's how it appears at first, but I don't think that being in the EU really prevented us doing that if we'd had the politcal will. But we don't, and we still don't now. So it's not going to happen.
Yes, that’s how it appears at first, but I don’t think that being in the EU really prevented us doing that if we’d had the politcal will. But we don’t, and we still don’t now. So it’s not going to happen.
The EU have been the whipping boys for all our political failings for both parties for far too long. Until someone actually gets that point across to the electorate, we are ****ed.
Yes, I'd agree that there was nothing stopping us solving the problems within the EU but I think the argument is that the shock of Brexit might make us actually do something about it. I dare say that's just wishful thinking though.
Living up here I thought his comments about the likelihood of independence were depressing, but probably true too.
I think he’s right that Brexit could be an opportunity to address some of the structural problems in our economy.
Crash & Burn...
I think he’s right that Brexit could be an opportunity to address some of the structural problems in our economy.
It's a bit like saying that WW2 was the perfect opportunity to make some town planning improvements in Dresden.
Brexit is a success according to long drip of piss masquerading as human
I’d love to bump into him, again………..and again………..and again
roverpig
Full MemberI think he’s right that Brexit could be an opportunity to address some of the structural problems in our economy.
It's not impossible, it's just that nobody actually wants to do that. Certainly none of the brexiteers in charge do, they want it to be the same only worse. And none of the political parties want to, at best they want it to be the same only better.
I’d love to bump into him, again………..and again………..and again
In any just world he’d be forced to explain the benefits of Brexit to a 15 mile queue of lorry drivers who never had any of this shit pre-Brexit
I’d pay to see that
He won’t find any Brexit bonuses because it’s like asking someone to come up with the advantages of shitting yourself in public
His lie is the headline. Adding the evidence further down the article that suggests that the lie might not be the “whole truth” is as good as useless. The lie in the headline is the story. Job done. It’s how we got Brexit, and it’s how they’ll keep people voting for them. Thanks BBC. The big lie is now not only how we win political campaigns in the UK, it’s how we govern. Boris Johnson Broke Britain.
somafunk
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Brexit is a success according to long drip of piss masquerading as humanI’d love to bump into him, again………..and again………..and again
I really, really detest Johnson but there is a special place in hell reserved for Mogg. Ironic as he is pseudo religious.
By that I mean he won't wear a johnny because God told him they are uncomfortable/ unavailable in micro sizes.
That Anand Menon vid posted by p7eavan is the best brexit breakdown I've seen. Of particular interest was the statistical fact that when it came to choosing which particular version of Brexit the country voted for there were so many options, no particular option ever had anything close majority support with the public.
I guess that's why the referendum was 'advisory'...
The most revealing statistic was that the most corroborative indicator of the way in which people voted in the referendum was wether they liked 'Mrs Brown's Boy's' or not.
It was a culture war first and foremost.
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Free MemberThat Anand Menon vid posted by p7eavan is the best brexit breakdown I’ve seen. Of particular interest was the statistical fact that when it came to choosing which particular version of Brexit the country voted for there were so many options, no particular option ever had anything close majority support with the public
Was always going to be the case tbh- not just that there was no one version that could win, but the only way leave could possibly win was to have people voting for totally incompatible ideas of what brexit was, and also totally impossible ideas.
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The most revealing statistic was that the most corroborative indicator of the way in which people voted in the referendum was whether they liked ‘Mrs Brown’s Boy’s’ or not.
Figures. Surprised I am not. ;o0
Boris Johnson Broke Britain.
David Cameron broke it, ironically Johnson might help fix it by being so monumentally shit that people will realise we need something better.
It took a confederation of dunces to get us here but it was Cameron who pulled the trigger.
It's worth noting that those on the Tory right like JRM had always maintained that any referendum would require two votes, a yes/no and a what type.
The fact that Cameron offered an all you can eat, one stop referendum shows both how little he understood what was at stake and how little consideration he gave it. Such utter, educated beyond your intelligence, supreme arrogance.
I've said it before, vote for unicorns and you end up with a donkey with a dildo gaffer taped to it's head. Applies to bpth brexit and recent prime ministers who happened to be educated at Eton.
vote for unicorns and you end up with a donkey with a dildo gaffer taped to it’s head
I'm borrowing this!
I’m borrowing this!
put the donkey back 🙂
You don’t know where it’s been.
Up Boris's a**e probably...
He won’t find any Brexit bonuses because it’s like asking someone to come up with the advantages of shitting yourself in public
1)Instant Saving on using toilet paper.
2)Saving on water no flushing, as they are going into the wash.
3)Sovereignty allows you to do it.
I’m not sure real advantages count any more 🙁
The believers in Brexit just need a tiny something to run with as a ‘benefit’ evidence based proof seems to be the biggest casualty.
We know that Brexit was sold as a "Cure all" for Britains various problems, that many versions of Brexit (all of the people, all of the time) were put forward simultaneously and that in reality Brexit can't possibly (and never could) deliver "to all of the people all of the time". If you were to put the various Brexit options on a Venn diagram what "Benefits" do you think the common area would include?
It’s interesting thou the more you dig into the detail of Brexit and the subtleties.
In Spain Valencia and Alicante are trying to tweak the eu 90/180 rule as oddly the U.K. allows an eu visitor to stay for up to 6 months.
“We are working on reciprocity so that Britons can also be in our territory for six months in a row when they come to visit us, as these are the conditions that apply for people from Alicante and Spain when they visit the United Kingdom,” Mazón said.
Also interestingly there is allegedly no UK 180 day rule, so it could well be that it’s not exactly reciprocity, dunno how this plays with Schengen thou.
Don't worry everyone. Instagram Liz is on the case and will have the Northern Ireland Protocol sorted by the time Boris makes his announcement this evening. She's got all her felt tips in that big handbag
https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1495706455181254660?s=20&t=kHImueirw0Q8-JBVcMHcng
Have we not got Brexit done?
Try to keep up, that was two years ago. We're getting Covid done today.
Got brexit done.
Now for sorting out some completely unrelated stuff that has nothing to do with brexit honest guv.
Truss needs to get her finger out. She said the NIP was going to be renegotiated by the end of Feb
Good grief another private flight,she does love that private jet feeling 🙂
Good grief another private flight,she does love that private jet feeling 🙂
Liz "Mile High Club" Truss.
🤢
That jet looks a bit low rent.
This is post brexit.
Where's the G6?
Im beginning to suspect they were not quite truthful when they said they done brexit....
Good grief another private flight,she does love that private jet feeling 🙂
Well, one can hardly have ones personal photographer standing by on the tarmac to snap you striding purposefully away from some frightful, low-rent scheduled flight now, can one? The optics would be all wrong! Do you not know who she is?
The plane is a BAe 146 operated by the RAF based at RAF Northolt - the “Queen’s Flight” so maybe Liz getting a little bit above her station?
I just find it bonkers when there’s a regular London-Brussels train, but she’s just like some gormless instagram wannabe, all she needs is too practise that lip pout.
On the Liz Truss/photos/social media thing, this one has a whiff of the graphic design work experience kid to it:
https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1495885020459847682
Also... jesus wept
I just find it bonkers when there’s a regular London-Brussels train, but she’s just like some gormless instagram wannabe, all she needs is too practise that lip pout.
When you do the maths it probably took longer and was considerably more hassle to fly than to get the train
But then Liz is an Instagramer and she’s involved in organising Britain’s very own Fyre Festival that is Brexit
On the Liz Truss/photos/social media thing, this one has a whiff of the graphic design work experience kid to it:
The thing about nationalist populism is it always produces great design. Doesn’t everyone just love all those garish primary colours and big blocky typefaces?
Thought I'd mention that one of the "brains" behind Vote Leave attended a debate at Cambridge University recently, after which he was invited to a formal dinner, as is tradition. At the end of formal dinners, the choir apparently sing something, quite often just Happy Birthday to someone.
This day they decided to leave everyone with a rendition of "Ode to Joy"
Thought I’d mention that one of the “brains” behind Vote Leave attended a debate at Cambridge University recently, after which he was invited to a formal dinner, as is tradition. At the end of formal dinners, the choir apparently sing something, quite often just Happy Birthday to someone.
This day they decided to leave everyone with a rendition of “Ode to Joy”
Noice
<anecdotal>My better half was saying shelves are looking very bare again after doing the monthly shop</anecdotal>
also came across this today....
Brexit was a bad Idea implement by the village idiot!
Dedicated Brexitier identifies key Brexit campaigners as working for Russia…
https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1499482828207267840?s=21
Hey folks! Remember the 'Festival of Brexit'?
No... me neither. I assumed it went the same way as Theresa May. But no. Apparently it's still 'a thing'. What kind of thing... who knows? The people responsible for it don't appear to know, but by definition it's bound to be absolutely toe-curling for all but the most ardent flag-shagger.
However, it has apparently already cost us all 120 million quid
https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1503887221346250759?s=20&t=qJmVahDAjUgD7YVjHLXS8g
I love the poster done by Richard Littler
Found a Brexit Bonus!
Big Ben's newly refurbished clock tower
A large clock has been cleaned up a bit.
Enjoy it while it lasts.
Note, story actually filed with "brexit" tag on bbc news site. Shame on them. Work started 2016.
Wait, Unboxed is a Festival of Brexit thing? They keep that quiet don't they? I don't see a single mention of it in any of the fluff.
