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Your comments have made people not only more hungry for mass-produced meat, but also spitefully so.
Not me. I want that Greggs vegan bake please. Hungy. I always go for vegan or vegetarian pies now. Preferring mushroom pies rather than fake meat mostly though. If you want to try a supermarket bought one... look out for Kevin. Someone local will probably have something better for you though.
At the top of the pile... and not really a pie... Greens in Didsbury to a mushroom wellington that can win over any meat eater. Drool....
Maybe I’ll have to adjust my prediction that Sunak will be the next PM
Both Hancock and Hunt are being lined up for a beating by Cummings and others in the "we're not really Conservatives anyway" gang with all the real power. Neither have any chance of winning a battle to become leader now. None at all. They will be ruthlessly crushed if they try. They'll be effectively attacked with lies, smears and the shitty sick.
Shall we send a (hopefully positive) tangent to it’s proper place:
https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/vegetarianism-for-a-meat-lover/
Wise. And someone start a Vegan beer thread...
And someone start a Vegan beer thread…
This is something that's also massively improved along with cheese and various other things. Back in the day the only reliably vegan beer was German lager, which is great if you like lager, but shit if you don't. Now however most of the craft breweries are either exclusively vegan (eg Cloudwater) or mostly vegan such as Vocation and Magic Rock. Even guiness is vegan now, not that that makes it more drinkable.
WiI’ve just had a horrible thought. We’ve a major international football tournament coming up in the summer.
Can you imagine the orgy of flag-shagging that’s going to involve, until Engerland inevitably go out in the group stage with a nil-nil bore-draw with Austria or someone?
I’m already cringing in anticipation of the prospective tabloid headlines.
This is a thread for Remoaners and the occasional Brexiteer troll. Let's keep it that way, Vegans and carnivores please start your own thread(s).
Diffrent flags though ain't it binners, the union Jack going to lose a lot of it's meaning amongst all the saltires, dragons and crosses.
I can hear the chants already:
"We're England and Wales....we're England and Wales....f*** of Scotland (and everyone else)...We're England and Wales.
EDIT:
And don't forget Cameron chose to stage the referendum right in the middle of Euro 2016, much to Putin's delight.
Daz, mate… It’s not cheese
What about beer? Is beer without fish in it not real beer? You'd best get used to all this cos I confidently predict that within our lifetimes meat and dairy products will be hard to find in the supermarket.
Almost all beers are vegan.
The only non-vegan thing that goes in them is Isinglass (a clarification agent/fining made from the gall bladders of some tropical fish). However, it's not very cost effective and there are a lot more modern finings/filtration aids around that have nothing to do with animals. Isinglass is only really used in small real ale brewery cask beers these days.
Daz... calling things ‘cheese’ when no milk is involved is like calling these abominations ‘crisps’ when no spuds are involved.

Once I’m running the world, there will be re-education camps and public flogging to put a stop to this type of thing.
I’m still toying with the idea of internment for militant, lefty vegan anarchists too, but I’m undecided on this at the moment
I’ll keep you posted
It’s massively improved the last couple of years, probably as a result of the investment from the big supermarkets. Morrison’s own brand stuff is better than most. TBH much like coffee, I never was a cheese snob, so as long as it melts and tastes vaguely cheesish I’m happy
Never a cheese snob? I'd suggest that you've never eaten decent cheese served at room temp.
With work I use to stay at a dodgy motel in the middle of France (Chateauroux) that had a silver-server restaurant attached. The cheese course was from a Cheese Grotto, no butter and certainly no crackers, eaten with a knife & fork.
“We’re England and Wales….we’re England and Wales….f*** of Scotland (and everyone else)…We’re England and Wales.
Hmm, no singer of English jingoistic chants is ever going to think of Wales - hardly anyone does. If you read the Scottish Indy threads you'd think that only two countries were involved. NI at least gets airtime these days.
I think I preferred it when the union flag was hijacked by the BNP back in the day.
At least those ***** weren't in a position of power.
With work I use to stay at a dodgy motel in the middle of France (Chateauroux) that had a silver-server restaurant attached. The cheese course was from a Cheese Grotto, no butter and certainly no crackers, eaten with a knife & fork
A cheese grotto? What witchcraft is this? If you could send me the details please fella, that’s my first post-Covid foreign trip sorted 😃
I never was a cheese snob, so as long as it melts and tastes vaguely cheesish I’m happy
Frankly, I’m appalled. What kind of monster are you?
WiI’ve just had a horrible thought. We’ve a major international football tournament coming up in the summer.
I'm sure 'our patriotic lads' will represent our new-found national brexity 'pride' by getting pissed up, beating up a few innocent bystanders then running away when the Po-Po turn up.
Daz will then be along to excuse them because, poor lambs, they're just raging against 'the system'.
😴
There'll always be an England etc...
Molgrips, you obviously didn't watch any of Euro 2016 then, that was the chant adopted by supporters when attacked by the 'official delegation' of Russian hooligans, who had been sent by Putin to cause trouble with English fans in order to exploit divisions within the EU in relation to Brexit.
Ergo the stupidity of holding a referendum concerning nationality in the middle of an international football tournament, where nationalist feelings will always be at their peak.
Molgrips, you obviously didn’t watch any of Euro 2016 then
I watched the football, not the violence!
Binners - I can top the cheese grotto - in central france there is a cheese trail like a nature trail but every stop is more cheese 🙂 We got some fine goats cheese covered in black hairy mold!
if your cheese does not move around on its own its not proper cheese
I have said on here before that i live in Rishis constituency and all his local propaganda makes no mention of the Tory party. He has distanced himself from Boris Hancock etc a long time ago he us a shoe in as the next PM, i have my doubts about his abilities... he has yet to demonstrate any new approaches or radical soloutions to the structural economics of the UK and has done nothing other than recycle old thinking and chuck cash at redwall **** holes.
There is a pattern to his approach which mainly appears to be buying good will with other peoples money. He has targeted his tax take on SMEs and left the big boys and poor folks alone.
I doubt he has the ability or the advisors to actually make any real long term positive change. Like Boris its the job title he is after, we should not forget that his Father in Law Murthy would be delighted if Rishi got the top job as this provides a whole world of political leverage.
His Richmondshire seat is 99.9% safe, he was put there for a reason. Although he is not particularly well liked locally he will always get voted back in.
I would just like to say during the last election he was subject to some pretty serious racism locally and bear in mind this is an upper middle class farming area.
So he does know what he is courting electorate wise.
So he does know what he is courting electorate wise.
Price worth paying.
On a riders group of which I am a member (maybe even a country member) a fairly innocent post has been jumped on by a couple of Brexity members. The OP is just saying he is chuffed that he has finally got his GX mech (ordered from the Netherlands in Jan) even though it was held up due to Brexit.
One poster has confidently claimed it is 'nowt to do with brexit' as 'SRAM is a US company'. I've just pointed out that the nationality of the ownership of a company is pretty irrelevant next to the location of their:
1. Entire supply chain.
2. Internal operations.
3. Distribution network.
I'm waiting for the next try. Will it be:
1. It is due to covid and you can't prove otherwise.
2. We could make all the stuff we need here if we wanted to.
3. **** off you smug elitist prick and if you ever challenge me again I'll smash your face in.
?
To be honest, I hope he goes for '3' as it saves time.
To be fair other than a delay in shipping of around 1 week there's really no other Brexit impact on his gx mech. The VAT rules that we imposed on ourselves that might have been the cause of a delay if the Netherlands company was selling to someone they no longer should have been were both self inflicted but also an EU rule. So really it has nowt specific to do with Brexit, but not because they're a US company of course.
Tbh the question that should be being asked is why he’s buying from the Notherlands,when sram has official distributors in the U.K.
Is it the price 🙂 or they can’t be arsed to hold stock ?
Course a forward thinking country wouldn’t have vat on bicycle parts as bicycles are good for the environment and the populations health.
Is it the price 🙂 or they can’t be arsed to hold stock ?
I think it was stock availability at that specific time that led him to buy from Mantel in the Netherlands.
The simple fact remains that Brexit has made us more difficult to deal with as a country. That is going to have a bad knock-on effect in terms of prices, availability of products and jobs. To have true believers immediately assert that it can't possibly be due to their religion just gets me rubbing my hands.
Oooh, just saw a notification flash up - might have got a bite. Back in a bit...
Whenever I’ve bought sram or rockshox in the past, I have had to order from Germany. Same goes for Maxxis as it happens. Having a UK distributor does not mean the UK has stock. As I keep saying, small home market doesn’t just mean higher prices, it makes it much harder to get parts. Not just a mountain biking thing either, true for spares and parts in all sorts of sectors.
Oooh, just saw a notification flash up – might have got a bite. Back in a bit…
Fight, fight, fight!
Fight, fight, fight!
Not worth it, I'm afraid.
He insists the Beeb and Guardian are making stuff up as says I'll be 'quoting Owen Jones next'.
A bit of FB research reveals his last few photos and posts are:
1. A Nigel Farage 'expose' on 'who is really staying at this 4 star hotel' with Farage looking out of his car window at some brown people.
2. A photo of him mockingly punching a statue of a hare.
3. A close up of a Staffordshire Bull Terrier.
I reckon we're going to be onto threats pretty soon...
Oooh.
He's typing something right now...
Odds on an insult or a threat...
Bah!
He's tried to backtrack by saying he was just pointing out two facts - that SRAM is a US company and there is a global shortage of bike parts. Despite his comment being in response to someone specifically saying they had had to wait for a part and that the supplier explicitly said it was due to Brexit. And that he also stated, confidently, that it wasn't due to Brexit and so the supplier must be lying.
He had a final poke at me about ideology. I responded by saying I should know better than to argue with a true believer about their religion. I hope he explodes in a shower of gammony rage, but I reckon he's probably too thick.
Disappointing outcome.
1. A Nigel Farage ‘expose’ on ‘who is really staying at this 4 star hotel’ with Farage looking out of his car window at some brown people.
2. A photo of him mockingly punching a statue of a hare.
3. A close up of a Staffordshire Bull Terrier.
Don’t know who you’re writing about but this is straight out of Monty Python.
Are we there yet? Haven’t we always been?
Don’t know who you’re writing about but this is straight out of Monty Python.
Are we there yet? Haven’t we always been?
He a knucklehead on a bike owners group I frequent.
Well, clever, witty types like the Pythons have always taken the piss out of thickos - so it is inevitable this has been 'done before' in some regard.
I just noticed, by the way, that he dismissed covid by referring to it as 'the flu' in one of his posts.
Just another run of the mill ****wit it seems.
He's been drawn back in by someone else picking up the cudgels and is now resorting to saying he is 'sipping from his pint of salty losers tears'.
I reckon he can be driven into a carpet chewing racist rant with a bit of gentle prodding.
<Rubs hands together>
🇬🇧🍑💩🤦♂️
🇪🇺😂💰🥂
I wonder if there is a parallel thread somewhere in regard to this thread? 😀
So my inlaws bought me a lovely hoodie for my birthday last month, from a company in London. It's taken nearly a month to get to the parcel holding facility a kilometer away from me. Yesterday I got a card through the door saying I can pick it up whenever I like within the next seven days before they send it back. And it can stay there, because although it's a gift, it was shipped direct and the value is over 45€. So if I want it I need to pay the tax due on the value of it and the shipping cost, and a 13€ admin fee. I'm buggered if I'm paying 25€ on top of something I never bought in the first place that would have cost me 50€ tops.
And unless any potential saving is HUGE, I won't be buying from the uK in the future.
I guess that's a Brexit bonus? Except the bonus is Europe's.
I reckon he can be driven into a carpet chewing racist rant
Nice oblique reference!
Just been to the shops and forgot the popcorn 😒 Await the "conversation" with interest.
He's gone quiet for now.
He posted a gif of Hello Kitty crying into a cup.
I posted a gif of a beaver crushed beneath the tree it has felled and proclaimed 'victory!' in the text.
He's probably trying to work out what it means....thick ****.
Still quiet.
Either he's gone off to kick a wall for a bit or there'll be a post from the group admins telling everyone it is a bike, not politics, group (after Mr Knuckledragger has gone squealing to them about 'bullying' or something)...🙄
Looking forward to hearing about this Saturday, Danny. I'm gonna log out for now as I don't want to spoil it 😉
Looking forward to hearing about this Saturday, Danny. I’m gonna log out for now as I don’t want to spoil it
A brief synopsis:
Brexiteer asserted something that was obviously bollocks.
Brexiteer got challenged on it.
Brexiteer got chippy about it.
Brexiteer got made to look a bit daft.
Brexiteer kept trying to backtrack whilst still having a pop.
Brexiteer got made to look progressively more stupid.
Brexiteer flounced.
The usual. You whistle it and I'll sing it.
🤷♂️
He be a 51er..
He doesn't have a clue beyond rhetoric and he finds this confusing.
He be a 51er..
He doesn’t have a clue beyond rhetoric and he finds this confusing.
Not sure what a 51er is - perhaps someone who does just enough 'thinking" to reach a conclusion then that is 'it' done forever?
Because I'm unsure, I have opted to categorise him as the more prosaic 'dipsh1t'.
Factory closing.
Warehouse Britain.
Is is the way.
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1375399079606415363?s=21
The Honda Swindon deal is being held up as a Brexit success by some, less jobs and less manufacturing doesn't seem like a success to me. I guess less paperwork from not exporting stuff will save some trees?
'Fishing & NI problems affect last less than 1%'......found this quoted on Twitter as a brexit positive, I'm not sure what it means.
The Honda Swindon thing looks like exactly what the authors of Britannia Unchained would want. Even if there are MORE jobs, I'd be prepared to bet the overall wage cost is less and the overall skill level of those jobs will be less. Loss of skilled jobs and replaced by more lower paid, lower skilled, lower security (and thus more exploitable) jobs.
All those moats and duckhouses don't clean themselves.
51% voted Brexit
49% didn't
Actually
37% voted Brexit
63% didn’t
Have just broken my vow to stay away from the forum for 6 months; I lasted two months.
Not much changes but when binners gets his wish to be world leader I'm moving to the NW to pronounce that King BinBins rules.
Vegan pasties all round.
As for Coronanomics - predictions by me, dazh and others are looking prescient.
Coming to a high street near you - economic devastation, closed businesses; more charity shops, bookies and various cheap shops.
I see that johnson and his polyps are talking about 'eating more british fish'; good luck with that- no chance unless it's fried in batter or coated in breadcrumbs; anything other than cod or haddock?
Clams, whelks, mussels, crab, lobster, scallops, monkfish, sole on the bone?
To the majority of brits they constitute 'foreign muck'.
As a nation we really are epicurean philistines; in fact, we're a nation of philistines - culturally, educationally, gastronomically.
Of votes cast dogbone, if you don't vote it don't count.
If you aren’t given a vote, you’re not counted.
i worked for close to 30 years at a papermaking company called Aylesford Newsprint. The place shut in 2015 and i was made redundant. KPMG were the administrators. The site has been sold to Pannatoni(warehouses on the way, minimum wages maximum profits). KPMG are one part of the serco track and trace people that are robbing us. When i was made redundant we found out that the newspapers were buying cheaper paper fom Canada(subsidised by the Canadian government) and Russia(sanctions at the time due to the Ukraine business. Illegal i assumed, but cheaper than us).
I've come to the conclusion that we are being robbed and ripped off and i am getting increasingly annoyed about it. Thats not including the Brexit debacle
we’re a nation of philistines – culturally, educationally, gastronomically
And it is now legitimised and, in fact, lionised.
Strength through Ignorance.
The Honda Swindon thing looks like exactly what the authors of Britannia Unchained would want. Even if there are MORE jobs, I’d be prepared to bet the overall wage cost is less and the overall skill level of those jobs will be less. Loss of skilled jobs and replaced by more lower paid, lower skilled, lower security (and thus more exploitable) jobs.
Doesn’t look good for Swindon, reminds me of the 80’s when they shut pits and devastated towns 🙁
Whenever I’ve bought sram or rockshox in the past, I have had to order from Germany. Same goes for Maxxis as it happens. Having a UK distributor does not mean the UK has stock. As I keep saying, small home market doesn’t just mean higher prices, it makes it much harder to get parts. Not just a mountain biking thing either, true for spares and parts in all sorts of sectors.
Always sorta bugged me have a distributor without anything to distribute, seems a tad lazy and making it hard for the customer to get parts seems mad.(although I suppose it depends on what you deem is your primary customer,bike manufacturer/bike shop)
I get it as a point of contact for warranty etc.
Yes, back to the shitty old days of the ‘exclusive UK distributor’ bugger-all stock and gouging prices like 20 years ago. It was only through access to the EU that prices started getting sensible. I’m surprised there hasn’t been a campaign to have the UKCA mark applied to bike parts, so we can get ‘exclusive’ access to products with the technologies the UK pioneered like cast-iron cranks 🤣 3x the weight and 3x the price
It’s not just “Lazy” dude, it’s about size of market. If you are sourcing and holding stock for the whole of Europe, then obviously you are in a better position to hold stock than if you are supplying just the UK. Post Brexit Britain means a return to rip off lack of choice Britain. It is an inevitable outcome, no matter how hard UK distributors work to make it otherwise.
djc1245
Free Memberi worked for close to 30 years at a papermaking company called Aylesford Newsprint. The place shut in 2015 and i was made redundant. KPMG were the administrators. The site has been sold to Pannatoni(warehouses on the way, minimum wages maximum profits). KPMG are one part of the serco track and trace people that are robbing us.
Yep, everything is hopelessly interweaved, the people who're supposed to oversee things/have appointed themselves guardians are often as much of a problem. Like, in the same vein think about credit ratings. Britain has a consumer debt problem, which we're supposed to blame on all the millions of individuals while still trusting the people- the exact same people- who decide who can borrow. But scale that up. Greece had an excellent credit rating right up until the moment it turned out they had no money and needed a bailout. George Osborne was absolutely in thrall to them, we must do whatever it takes to retain our credit rating. George, do the truffle shuffle! OK Moodys, since you asked. Who watches the watchdogs? The same watchdogs with a hat on. Who pays the price when they're wrong or just lying? Everyone else.
A key part of the financial crisis was down to banks being able to overleverage and present themselves as being more solvent than they were and being able to literally sell liabilities as if they were assets and to create the illusion of money by selling the same things to each other over and over in different coloured bags. KPMG literally came into the bank I worked for and we paid them to tell us how to pass their tests and reviews, and then we paid them to do the tests and reviews, and then the best bit of all is once we had the results we acted on them like they were true, as did all the other institutions who did literally the same thing. Then we exploded.
And all of that is from the credit rating agencies and corporate accounting organisations, who came out the other end absolutely as if they'd never said a word wrong or had anything to do with creating the problems they were somehow telling us how to fix, having made incomprehensible amounts of money dealing with the consequences.
KPMG literally came into the bank I worked for and we paid them to tell us how to pass their tests and reviews, and then we paid them to do the tests and reviews, and then the best bit of all is once we had the results we acted on them like they were true, as did all the other institutions who did literally the same thing. Then we exploded.
The same is true of audit firms in general. If they come up with points a company doesn't like, they can always be let know that the company is looking to employ other audit firms in future. And, as always, the bigger the client the more weight that threat carries.
Most auditors are bloody useless anyway - the priority is to get out of the day to day audit work and to get involved with mergers and acquisitions. That's where the real dosh is, for the firm and the individual. Basic auditing is the job of the new juniors and the audit managers whose careers have stalled for whatever reason.
I've just ordered Madame a shiney red Brompton M6L for 1665e on Brompton's French language web site. It's click and collect to be picked up from a shop in Bayonne. In theory on that value of purchase all the VAT hassle should be transparent to me the customer if Brompton have their paperwork in order. Fingers crossed.
Like horses, bicycles like company in their stables, so it'll be a friend for the old black Brompton I've got. I hope they don't bite each other.
It's going to be awesome to compare pre and post Brexit component purchases.
Put them alongside each other and there's no apparent difference. But one must be lighter/stronger/better 'cos it cost 20% more....
Oh no, that's right. A bunch of peckerheads voted to make everything more expensive and less available for the sum total of **** all in return.
Awesome.
Luckily I stocked up on few bits late last year.
dannyh
Full MemberIt’s going to be awesome to compare pre and post Brexit component purchases.
Put them alongside each other and there’s no apparent difference. But one must be lighter/stronger/better ‘cos it cost 20% more….
Just spent about 30 minutes ordering a component from a czech company, in czech, because the UK importer says it won't restock until late June "but due to import issues we can't guarantee that date won't slip as most of our deliveries are currently delayed". I am not confident that the 30% increased price and delay in delivery will result in any performance benefits though. Not that it matters because it's not like I can really return it.
Why yes there were two big euro shops that have english language websites and used to be a great option to buy from that have it in stock but now won't ship here.
All these brexit dividends and yet so far they all seem to be for other countries and other people, I can't understand it.
Why yes there were two big euro shops that have english language websites and used to be a great option to buy from that have it in stock but now won’t ship here.
Ahh once COVID’s er over I can see the bike-Cruze becoming a thing 🙂 , don’t forget the fake spray-on mud thou.
All these brexit dividends and yet so far they all seem to be for other countries and other people, I can’t understand it.
Ah your not imaging hard enough or expecting an early return wasn’t it 10 or 50 years you’ve got to wait to rejoice in it’s majesty 🙂
Still choking on Brexit ?
Give it up for your own health thickos.
How long until it's cheaper to easyJet over to Germany for the day with an empty bike bag, collect bike, ride through a few puddles and return with a 'used' muddy bike?
Still choking on Brexit ?
Give it up for your own health thickos.
Actually we are still waiting for any evidence of any benefits of Brexit. Perhaps you'd like to enlighten us.
Will you be getting vaccinated, thebees ?
thebees
Free Member
Still choking on Brexit ?
Give it up for your own health thickos.
Nah, we're still laughing at Brexit !
We’ve done the UK trying to implement policy that would adversely effect a sector the USA are dominant in…?
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56565636
The US has warned it could put tariffs of up to 25% on a host of UK exports in retaliation for a UK tax on tech firms.
Taste the sovereignty.
"Should the US proceed to implement these measures, we would consider all options to defend UK interests and industry."
Big talk.
You'd have thought that nice American lady given Johnson those technology lessons would have prepared him for this
£700,000 she got for those lessons wasn't it?
Still choking on Brexit ?
Give it up for your own health thickos.
People like me will always laugh and sneer at people like you.
Always have, always will. Doesn't matter how many self-harming phyrric 'victories' you score, either.
The joke is on you. Always was.
Crack open another Carling and toast your success, winner.
😆
Still choking on Brexit ?
Give it up for your own health thickos.
Still pissed off yes. I'll stop being pissed off when our country actually starts to get better. No sign of that yet, what do you think?
thebees
Free MemberStill choking on Brexit ?
Give it up for your own health thickos.
Brilliant metaphor, considering what actually happens when you're choking on something and then you give up.
I find it quite amusing that Brexit has benefited the EU more than good old England.
Must be as confusing as **** to your average Gammon. Had a roast gammom joint at lunchtime (Danish) but did have a couple of Yorkshire eggs and some Lincolnshire chips. The Gammon was not confused.
Still choking on Brexit ?
Give it up for your own health thickos.
Ah. Irony.
The joke is on you. Always was.
Sadly, it isn't. This is the problem. The joke is on all of us collectively.
Ha. Ha.
You’d have thought that nice American lady given Johnson those technology lessons would have prepared him for this
£700,000 she got for those lessons wasn’t it?
Well what compensation would you want for jiggly-time with Mr J 🙂
And yet he has apparently "no case to answer" for this ( https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/29/pm-has-no-case-to-answer-over-jennifer-arcuri-allegations-says-no-10).
I would say that is, morally, bullshit. Criminally, well, I'd love to see that tested in court.