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I had a nice Little Creatures pale ale in our local eatery on mothers day! (East Devon)
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This is unbeatable in that style at the moment though, proper yum...
I can't comment on the management style at PK but I imagine they are pretty friendly, and they're just up the road a couple of miles
STW "Tall Poppy Syndrome" in full flood today I see ๐
agent007 - MemberBrewdog beer, in any guise I've tried is always far to hoppy and citrusy for me. Doesn't make for good session drinking ale like some of the brilliant Lakeland beers. Regularly in brewdog I've felt like not finishing one of their pints. Sure the odd pint of brewdog ale is fine but couldn't do more than one or two on a regular basis.
Me too. Find their stuff indiscriminately hoppy, to the point of tasting like detergent. Their insistence on selling ale in smaller bottles than everybody else is not an endearing trait. And their "punk" schtick is actually pretty toe-curling for the most part.
Not massively surprised to discover the heid bummer is a bit of a bell-end.
Their bottles are too small
Damn straight! I likes it, but hardly ever buy it due to it not being great value.
STW "Tall Poppy Syndrome" in full flood today I see
Not sure, more don't believe the hype - our generation were suckered by Richard Branson so have learnt the hard way.
[b]Yunki[/b] Franklins Citra if you can find it ๐
Brewdog are surely the ultimate is marketing over substance.
selling ale in smaller bottles than everybody else is not an endearing trait.
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In fact it is the main reason I won't buy their drink, the market for beer is huge, plenty of other breweries making decent beer that per litre is far better value.
TBH - they are the hipster equivalent of 'Spoons!
I find their beer ok but nothing special, there's way better around.
Though kudos to making it work for them..
google suggests this is abusing people/things that have genuine merit. Being successful at business means you're successful at business, it doesn't implicitly mean you have merit (apart from to your shareholders/bank account) or that you are not a cock**.STW "Tall Poppy Syndrome" in full flood today I see
Watched first 5 minutes* and got pissed off with the ****y hipster bollocks he was spouting, but to be fair we have a lot of the more traditional ****y managerial bollocks spouted by bosses at our place which is just as annoying.
*but tbf it was a program about beer makers and I hate beer so it was never looking good.
**like I said I only watched 5 mins I'm not saying he is or he isn't
selling ale in smaller bottles than everybody else is not an endearing trait.
Their beer bottles are no smaller than the majority of other "Craft" beers? Yes I know, they might all be wrong but you cant blame them for following suit.
Craft beers are usually in excess of 5% (maybe not session beers), so there is some logic to them being smaller bottles/cans.
Personally I love their Dead Pony Club session IPA. Just wish the bottles were bigger ๐
a bit of a bell-end.
Not much to add to this really.
Might have tried one of their beers, but I'm now much less likely to after seeing that show (and hearing him on The Bottom Line last week, I think).
The fact that I like beer and buy a reasonable amount, but have never seen a Brewdog beverage in a shop or pub suggests he's not quite the marketing genius some here are claiming.
The brewdog pub in Edinburgh is shit tbh- I quite like the staff, ****y and hipstery as they might be, they're the lesser spotted Happy Hipster. But the beer's just not quite right. Maybe it's just that they're casking something that was designed for bottling or something, or a serving issue.
I'll give them a lot of credit for the Vagabond though- it's one of the few gluten free beers that's sold as a main line to normal people, and most people would never know it was out of the ordinary. (It is hoppy but that's a matter of taste.) They've got some skillz. Not to mention that basically nobody does a GF ale well first time- lager is easier, ale not so much, so they went right in at the deep end.
Not as good as Hambletons or Greens mind but it's a first commercial attempt and it's better than most of the old hands.
Brewdog make a lot of interesting and (mostly) excellent beers. If you've decided you don't like them though you're obviously not going to seek them out so are probably going to judge them on the mainstream beers that you can buy in Tesco!
I also think their beers reflect the changing attitudes to "pub culture" - they aren't really aimed at people who sit in a pub all day drinking 6+ pints of the same beer. The same can be said about most craft brewers though. Selling beer in 330mm bottles - or even cans! - is probably the norm these days for craft beer I'd say.
Never been to one of their bars but did work my way through a big crate of beers off their web shop the other day with a few mates - including the sublime Dog D!
They get a massive thumbs up from me as a company for having recently published the recipes for every beer they've ever made online for home brewers to try. How many other commercial breweries have done that?! Have a flick through the PDF if you think they only make hoppy beers!
there's no standards committee that decides whether it's craft or not (I believe there is a legal definition relating to brewery size in the US though) - it just means (to me) a brewer who prioritises the taste of the beer/quality of ingredients i.e. a craftsman
I thought they were a hipster tosser-centric brand when I first saw them on tv some years ago. I dislike everything about them, except their beers ๐
Tesco branded American Double IPA (made by brewdog) is probably my current fav.
I'm sure he doesn't care in the slightest about making friends, but he knows how to make his business succeed!
This is what happens when wider society lets psychopaths run businesses.
real ale standards.
Brewdog don't make "real ale". The crusties at CAMRA would never call it "real ale".
The brewer at the brewery next door to me calls them Alcho-hops
I'm a regular at my local brewdog bar, but rarely drink any of their own ales. They've usually got a great selection of quality guest ales on and a good selection of bottles/cans.
It's nice going to a bar where all the staff are friendly and know about the beers they're selling.
They've got about 215 recipes I think, many are 'on trend' IPAs and hoppy pales which aren't always my cuppa tea.
a brewer who prioritises the taste of the beer/quality of ingredients i.e. a craftsman
All master brewers are craftsmen and I suspect all prioritise taste. Brewdog is just another large commercial brewery. I do like their stuff, but it's no better than average, and there are cheaper ales out there which are just as nice. I like the brewdog the pubs too.
Brewdog don't make "real ale". The crusties at CAMRA would never call it "real ale".
So it's just ale then.
nickjb - MemberThe brewer at the brewery next door to me calls them Alcho-hops
๐ Haha! Nails it.
But then I'm the kind of clean-shaven 40-something they wouldn't dream of employing as an area manager - what do I know?
true, but then they don't actually get to make the decisions at most large breweries do they? That would be the bean-counters who probably don't even drink beer let alone have a passion for it. Even the most ardent Brewdog hater couldn't deny that the owners have a genuine passion for what they are doing. I doubt the same could be said for the owners/shareholders of most other large breweries.All master brewers are craftsmen and I suspect all prioritise taste
What makes brew dog ale "craft"?
That's a pretty big brewery by real ale standards.
Brewdog is just another large commercial brewery.
Brewdog is still tiny compared to actual large commercial breweries, in fairness.
There's no official definition in the UK, as [url= https://www.brewersassociation.org/statistics/craft-brewer-defined/ ]there is in the US[/url]. Though even by the US standards, Brewdog are tiny (looking at it purely on size). They certainly punch above their weight when it comes to PR though....
At first it seemed a fun place to work, but then the comments from some of the employees suggested it wasn't as good it you're actually on the staff.
Gave up after 10 minutes ... life's too short.
Brewdog is still tiny compared to actual large commercial breweries, in fairness.
It is. But in comparison with the majority of UK breweries, and certainly those I'd consider "small" ("craft" is a shit word in this context, made up by americans to signify "small") that is a HUGE set up. Looks bigger than the Bath ales set up (which is actually in Bristol and by no means small) and they manage to sell beer in proper size bottles.
LOL. You sound like one of the old farts complaining in the CAMRA mag letters page. It's not wrong, just different. Embrace the change. Or don't! People will still sell real ale in "proper" bottles, that isn't going away! ๐and they manage to sell beer in proper size bottles.
2015
540 EMPLOYEES + 1 DOG
134,000HL BEER BREWED
32,000 SHAREHOLDERS
44 BARS
I have in my mind that Fullers do about 350,000HL (HL = 100ltr = 176 pints)
So, at around 23 million pints per year not small.
Not a bad idea!In December of 2013, Stone Brewing Co. co-founder Greg Koch posted this on Twitter: โA dream: We stop calling fizzy yellow beer โbeerโ & real actual beer โcraft beer,โ & begin calling them โfake beerโ & โbeer,โ respectively.โ
You sound like one of the old farts complaining in the CAMRA mag letters page. It's not wrong, just different. Embrace the change. Or don't! People will still sell real ale in "proper" bottles, that isn't going away!
Or perhaps I don't want to pay more for less?!?! Perhaps I don't want a little bitty lager bottle to pour into a little bitty lager glass?
As I said, I actually like the stuff!
The brewer at the brewery next door to me calls them Alcho-hops
Yes would agree with that, for sure. Now if you want a good beer, that you can drink all night, without the hipster bulls hit or harsh aftertaste then no need to look any further than:
or perhaps:
Lucky to live up't North in this respect ๐
Ee by gum. 'Appen I don't want a giant bottle or to spend the whole evening drinking any kind of beer let alone the same beer? Is that allowed by the Beer Bores Club?
How long does it take to drink a pint in your neck of the woods? Bit much for you? Half a lager top perhaps?
Appen I don't want a giant bottle or to spend the whole evening drinking any kind of beer let alone the same beer?
You would if it was good beer ๐
How long does it take to drink a pint in your neck of the woods? Bit much for you? Half a lager top perhaps
Yes, cos I'm not a proper beer drinking MAN like you.
is 660mm not enough for you wrecker ? easy enough to buy brewdog in those around here if you so wish .... i prefer the 330ml bottles as it saves me pouring the damn thing into a glass when it already comes in its own drinking vessel. 660s are just a pain.
OR if you so wish you can also buy it in a can
Yes, cos I'm not a proper beer drinking MAN like you.
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Fanbois are so fun.
I do like Punk IPA. In fact I fancy a pint tonight, best buy a couple of bottles ๐
What you need is TinPot Brewery in Bridge of Allan. Is also MTB friendly
[url= http://bridgeofallan.co.uk/brewery/ ]TinPot Brewery[/url]
Looks bigger than the Bath ales set up (which is actually in Bristol and by no means small)
technically it's in Warmley, South Gloucestershire, though it has a Bristol postcode. ๐
Yes, it'll have Bristol in it's address though (as a large amount of south gloucs address' do).
A lot of us in south gloucs don't believe in it, we're still in bristol (as we always were before someone decided we weren't) ๐
People will still sell real ale in "proper" bottles, that isn't going away!
No they won't.
CAMRA pedantry means that bottled beer isn't 'real ale'. They won't even consider cask kept under an aspirator despite it being better beer than just cask!
I like IPA in small bottles, drinking a pint in the evening the aromas gone by the end, a couple of bottles keeps it fresh.
CAMRA - old fuddies drinking stale beer in wetherspoons
SIBA - people who actually like beer
CAMRA - old fuddies drinking stale beer in wetherspoonsSIBA - people who actually like beer
Completely different things, and incomparable. The first is a club for "purist" olde english bitter drinkers, the second is an organisation for professionals (who generally sell beer in proper sized bottles ๐ )
CAMRA - old fuddies drinking stale beer in wetherspoons
Nothing worse than inverse snobbery.....besides CAMRA folk would drink good beer wherever it's sold but they certainly wouldn't drink STALE beer.....








