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There is no contradiction about wanting to live your life a certain way and to believe certain things, and wanting to allow others to live the way they want and to believe what they want. That is what liberals do. I'm an atheist, but would fight against anything that seeks to limit anyone's right to follow their religion.
Farron was done over by the media… but that's what happens when you lead a party, and he didn't handle it as well as he needed to. And the party struggled to gain any additional relevance in the snap election. He had to stand aside. I hope he continues as an MP though, as he's far better at that than most.
I tend to agree but the problem is that god is inviolable and omnipotent and therefore does not do revisionism or relativism. I acceptthey are torn between modernising to reflect the world we live in and staying true to what is in the Bible.I think it's better to let the prevailing social views mould and shape religious people, rather than insist it's all or nothing
there is not one for liberals - though again we all have a line where our liberalism ends and we get laws and norms and the like. However its not really an option for Christians as the wrong choices lead to damnation etc. There is an obvious conflict there for a liberal.There is no contradiction about wanting to live your life a certain way and to believe certain things, and wanting to allow others to live the way they want and to believe what they want.
he accepted this problem or his inability to resolve it if you prefer.The consequences of the focus on my faith is that I have found myself torn between living as a faithful Christian and serving as a political leader.A better, wiser person than me may have been able to deal with this more successfully, to have remained faithful to Christ while leading a political party in the current environment.
To be a political leader – especially of a progressive, liberal party in 2017 – and to live as a committed Christian, to hold faithfully to the Bible’s teaching, has felt impossible for me.
Kelvin the point is he used his religious beliefs to justify discrimination against gay people. thats not acceptable
RichPenny - MemberJust not really a fan of Northwind's view that people can't pick and choose. I think it's better to let the prevailing social views mould and shape religious people, rather than insist it's all or nothing. Too afraid that they'll choose all
It's an interesting point. But I suppose the counter is that the bits of faith that people discard, can be the lever that break them away entirely from that religion.
religious beliefs to justify discrimination against gay people. thats not acceptable
You must REALLY hate Islam then.
Funny that you only choose to rail against Christianity, though.
CaptainFlashheart - MemberFunny that you only choose to rail against Christianity, though.
Tim Farron is muslamic?
CFH - give me an example of a UK mainstream muslim politician using his or her religion to justify discrimination?
I have never heard of one and if I did I would condemn it completely
No, he's not even Cumbrian
Blimey. Right-wingers are an antsy bunch of snowflakes lately. Have you all been having a bad week?
No its been great nothing has changed remember
flashy you always say this WHY?
Its facile.
Start a thread on an Islamic country/person that persecutes homosexuals and i will be there criticising them as will the rest and all just for you ...will it stop you making this point - whatever it is as i cannot see what it is - substance less just like god?
Mefty - you really do know little. I have worked for religious organisations and I have given money to them. I had a bunch of nuns for my co workers. I still have a plant one of them gave me that I treasure ( vow of poverty from them - its all she had to give me - a cutting from her plant and I treasure it for that reason)
Its when religious people use their religion as an excuse for intolerance discrimination and hatred I get annoyed.
the post you quote is clearly over the top and one I have apologised for