[Closed] Bread...what to replace it with/alternatives

Instead more yeast is used, the fermentation happens quickly and is ended with jets of steam.

It's mostly a mechanical process whereby the dough has the shit kicked out of it in a pressure controlled mixer so that air bubbles are introduced into the dough and then expanded by the dough being exposed to a vacuum. There is a fair bit of yeast involved (though not as much as people seem to think) but that's mostly to give a fast prove afterwards as far as I understand it. The purpose of the additives is to encourage this dough to bond together into a stable mass. I wasn't aware that the fat's necessary for this process but ransos probably knows better than I do.

The keeping time is in no small part down to the fat content. If you add say 20ml of oil to your dough before kneading you'll find it keeps much better - this is something people have known for thousands of years. This is the main reason it's added in the CBP.

There's a good article about it here by the by: http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/Issues/2009/October/Ontherise.asp

I thought the additives were just vitamin C?

They have to add enzymes to make it rise quicker, and emulsifiers to make it hold more air. The enzymes are not listed on the ingredients label.

I thought the additives were just vitamin C?

Not just, take a look at the article I just linked for more details but there are enzymes added to achieve various ends.

Thanks for the linky LS. It's nice to know that they've stopped using Bromine.

[i]guiding principles:
Avoid if possible processed food.[/i] That be bread then.
[i]Eat more fruit and veg.
No carbs after 5pm.
Drink more water.[/i]
I call: FAD DIET!

Does anyone here remember their first pint of beer? How did it make you feel?

Sacked off bread in 2007 two years after I sacked off sugar. No particular reason it just started to taste sickly sweet

Bread shouldn't be a staple food imo

Some people on this thread are clearly absolutely hatstand bonkers masochists! Are you not even allowed pitta bread? What on earth do you do on the way back from the pub after a good piss up?

Chilli sauce?

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Some people on this thread are clearly absolutely hatstand bonkers masochists! Are you not even allowed pitta bread? What on earth do you do on the way back from the pub after a good piss up?

Tsk, when we make shwarma at home we serve it with Quinoa and Spelt and Rye wraps don'cha know.

/sadly not actually joking.

I'm bloody salivating again...!

Some people on this thread are clearly [s]absolutely hatstand bonkers masochists![/s] not fat slow pie obsessed northerners

FTFY 🙂

lemonysam do you work for the bread marketing board or something?

Tsk, when we make shwarma at home we serve it with Quinoa and Spelt and Rye wraps don'cha know.
/sadly not actually joking

lemonysam do you work for the bread marketing board or something?

Bet it's a fair trade elephant leg too with organic lamb hoof and come lips...

Do you know how hard it is to find a source of free range mechanically reclaimed testicle?

I just swapped from the big loafs (erm, loaves?) of bread to the smaller loaves (erm, loafs?) that you can get. So, instead of about 100 cals/slice, they are about 55cals/slice and are smaller.

But, I still have a sandwich. It's just a bit smaller and has about half of the bread calories.
I also sometimes have those Warburtons thins that binners linked to; but we get the wholemeal ones, rather than white. They don't toast well though.

[i] [b]binners[/b] - Member

Some people on this thread are clearly absolutely hatstand bonkers[/i]
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The one and only substitute for bread is liquid bread AKA BEER
No good for sarnies though.

Stumpy having lunch....

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[i]The one and only substitute for bread is liquid bread AKA BEER[/i]

The thing about beer is, ime, the first pint of your life, is likely to provide you with the feeling of being drunk to some degree or another.
Then, as time passes and if you find you like drinking beer, you may also find that you can drink more on subsequent occasions.
As we know, this is down to people developing a tolerance, a certain resistance to beer/alcohol consumption.

The same could be said about insulin. When you're young, your body is very sensitive to insulin, all your cells and organs are sensitive to the hormone and all is as it was [i]designed[/i] to be...
But, as time passes and depending on the glycemic load of your daily diet throughout those passing years. You may expose those cells and organs to more insulin during that time. This again can lead to a certain degree of insulin resistance.
The only issue that then remains is how insulin resistant one's body becomes over time and whether that's a bad thing.

Go figure.
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^^ Binners, startlingly accurate....

Is that from my Facebook page?

[i] stumpy01 - Member

^^ Binners, startlingly accurate....[/i]

What? You have long hair and wear green eye shadow!
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Beer is the perfect post ride recovery drink, no argument.

Beer is the perfect [s]post ride recovery[/s] drink, no argument.

FTFY

Can I raise a pertinent question for the flour-phobic please?

How do you cope at buffets? I'm only asking as we've had an enormous one delivered for lunch today. Its from the fab bakery down the road, and of a very northern leaning. Theres a whole world of lovely butties, little mini pizzas, and their frankly fantastic chilli sausage rolls, and stuff. The salad is of such an inconsequential quantity that it could only really be described as a garnish

Would you be able to eat any of this? Or would you have to look on aghast at the porkers shovelling stuff in?

I stopped eating pasta and bread lateish last year (cant remember when). Now I have bacon bap on a Sat or Sun am and thats it.

Its no biggy. Drop potatoes/pasta and keep a wee bit of bread and you're laughin.

How do you cope at buffets?

Meat.

[i]How do you cope at buffets?[/i] Binners - I don't live in the north, for which I'm grateful. Salad, cheese, rice, fruit: that sort of southern extravagance that ends about Glos.

[i] molgrips - Member

How do you cope at buffets?

Meat. [/i]

Excellent reply. Bread, grains, are a very cheap and nutritionally poor source of calories.
Something that people don't need if they have access to meat and veg.
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Solo - Member

What? You have long hair and wear green eye shadow!

Erm, Hello!! It's blue, not green..... 🙄

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don't touch buffets

After 30 years of eating porridge (Dorset Cereals just now) I'm actually going off it and not clearing my bowl! Scrambled eggs with cheese just tastes more yummy.

Definitely not pregnant btw. 😉

Have you tried porage with raisins, chopped dried apricots, honey or any other strange non-ethnic additions? Oh, and Scotts' Old Fashioned beats Dorset.

No but wondering whether my body has had enough of gluten, what with eating bread for lunch. Don't really understand it!

No but wondering whether my body has had enough of gluten, what with eating bread for lunch. Don't really understand it!

You realise Oats contain negligible gluten, right?

[i] nickc - Member

don't touch buffets [/i]

Yeap! because everyone else has... Yeasch!

[i]You realise Oats contain negligible gluten, right?[/i]

I bet you can tell me about all the goodness in oats, specifically.

As well as how much is [i]negligible[/i].

As well as how much is ]negligible.

Only that which gets there by contamination from other grains processed in the same plant. Coeliacs can eat porridge.
https://www.coeliac.org.uk/gluten-free-diet-and-lifestyle/gf-diet/oats/

Negligible? Can you quantify that please? There's very few g-f oats, last time I looked.

Edit: thanks. 🙂

After 30 years of eating porridge (Dorset Cereals just now) I'm actually going off it and not clearing my bowl! Scrambled eggs with cheese just tastes more yummy.

It could be you're just bored of it!

Anyway, porridge+banana+honey FTW. Although I quite like the sound of raisins.

It could be you're just bored of it!

[url= http://www.marksdailyapple.com/why-grains-are-unhealthy/#axzz3Q2UmEhhf ]Why grains are unhealthy[/url]

Need to do some label checking, it has raspberries.

[i]Only that which gets there by contamination[/i]

Selective answering, I appear to have missed your goodness list for oats...
Here, please allow me assist you:

100g of oats:
[i] 389 calories
16.9 grams protein
[b]66 grams carbohydrate[/b]
10.6 grams fiber (with just under half soluble)
7 grams fat (about half PUFA and half MUFA)
4.72 mg iron
177 mg magnesium
3.97 mg zinc
0.6 mg copper
4.9 mg manganese
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Oh, carbs again. Then there's the phytic acid which has a tendancy to bind to the nutrients listed above, thus rendering those nutrients unavailable for absorption. Then there's avenin too.

Carry on!
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Edit:
Amused by suggestions to add honey, raisins, bananas, (adding carbs to carbs lol)etc. Anyone would think that plain oats are rather tasteless, boring....
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This bloke will be upsetting the Establishment by challenging existing schools of thought. His new book is very good and an eye-opener.

http://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2015/01/23/thinking-about-obesity-and-diabetes/

Various Bircher Muesli options here by the way.
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2014/oct/23/how-to-make-perfect-bircher-muesli-recipe