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A work colleague is trying to reduce their calories and is looking to drop the bread from their diet but with you what?
So all the folk who have reduced bread r gluten in their diets what have you done differently.
crackerbread/ryvita.
Toast.
Rice cakes, oatcakes, ryvita, real rye bread which is a bit dense though, probably laden with calories along with the goodness, and Staffs oatcakes when I can get then.
er, i just stopped eating bread. not sure i understand the question.
no sandwiches, no bread rolls, no bagels, no cake, no donuts...
so my saturday bacon and egg sarnie = bacon and scrambled egg
my banana and peanut butter sarnie = banana and peanut butter
last nights tuna mayo.... bowl of tuna, mayo, olives, beetroot and some pickle.
I changed the way I think about meals, had to adjust the mindset a bit to think of lunch as not a sandwich, I make big salads with mackerel etc, plenty of protein to make you full, or soups with lots of meat too. I feel pretty rubbish and 'gurgly' if I have bread etc now, I do sometimes have a bit, go out for pizza or have a biscuit or ten, but I do feel rubbish after, I see it like a hangover of sorts, not great all the time but sometimes it has to happen! But mainly lots of protein, raw almonds on my desk for snacks too.
The point about not having bread to reduce carbs is to reduce carbs - so replacing it with something else defeats the object!
Unless you mean what else to have for lunch instead of sandwiches? Well for me it's salads or something like scrambled eggs if I'm at home, or a hearty soup. If out - then I try and find whatever's as low GI as possible. Brown bread sandwiches are best or something with a tortilla. Or if you have access to some soup or a palatable salad from a takeaway, that.
It is a stepped approach, literally what can they have to reduce their intake but gradually.....so they replaced lots of food with diet bars and shakes....all fructose and sucrose sugars.....trying to give healthy alternatives like rice cakes and so on.
The only way I can think of eating bannana and peanut butter without bread is to smear the peanut butter all over the outside of the bananna. ๐ฏ
I can tell that's exciting you.
pigyn, you need the help of a beautiful assistant. One with a built in banana holder....
try a balanced diet, cutting out 1 food sounds like a fad approach rather than understanding what they eat vs what they expand
Agreed mike trying to stop the fad and balance bug struggled to suggest bread alts
less of some stuff and more veg?
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15752918 ]Toast sandwich[/url] - cheap and good for you apparently ๐
Replace with porridge.
In the far east noddles and rice.
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pigyn - Member
The only way I can think of eating bannana and peanut butter without bread is to smear the peanut butter all over the outside of the bananna.
Jesus F Christobel - you can peel the banana!
grab banana, begin the peel, open the peanut butter, using teaspoon apply some peanut butter to the open banana, nom, spoon, PB, nana, nom, spoon, PB, nana, nom. geddit.
do not hold me responsible for the increased calories of consuming this much PB
EDIT - i guess you could peel the whole nana, slice down the middle and apply a layer of PB which would stick the nana back together *plans*
Replace with porridge.
That makes for a rubbish tuna melt sandwich.
peel the whole nana, slice down the middle and apply a layer of PB
You have just reminded me of something I saw on TV. It was a device that you stuck up an unpeeled banana and it injected a filling of your choice. You could then peel and eat the banana as usual but with filling. (downside was the hole in the bottom of the banana oozing filling down the presenters arm as they ate the banana)
Here you go
[url= http://destapabanana.com/en/a-gadget-that-turns-a-banana-into-a-world-of-possibilities/ ]http://destapabanana.com/en/a-gadget-that-turns-a-banana-into-a-world-of-possibilities/[/url]
Unless for a medical reason i can never understand why people always seem to cut bread from there diet. Any dietician worth there salt (not too much salt though) will tell you that there aren't many foods around with that many nutrients for less than 100 calories, always in moderation though.
There's a lot more to dieting than counting calories. I'm off bread due to the carb content
want to elaborate scotroutes? There is a lot more to an explanation that a statement
Please elobrate on the carb count
Any dietician worth there salt (not too much salt though) will tell you that there aren't many foods around with that many nutrients for less than 100 calories
Really?
Meat
Broccoli
Cabbage
Cauliflower
Peas
Eggs
I reckon all have lots of 'nutrients' in. Depends which ones you are after of course. But if you want nutrients in general then filling up on veg with a bit of meat is FAR more nutritious than filling up on bread, and low GI with it.
Just substitute vegetables for bread. Your calorie/carb intake will have to drop. e.g:
Baguette, French, Tesco
Calories in 100g of baguette:Calories 240.0kcal
Carbohydrate 49.5g
Protein 7.8g
Fat 1.2g
Fibre 3.4g
Broccoli, Boiled, Average
Calories in 100g of broccoliCalories 24.0kcal
Carbohydrate 1.1g
Protein 3.1g
Fat 0.8g
Fibre 2.3g
So to eat the same amount of calories in a baguette, you are going to have to eat a kilogram of brocolli. And still have only eaten a fifth of the carbs.
I find cutting bread out of my diet makes me feel far less bloated
As a nation, we eat less bread than many other countries, yet on average they are slimmer than us.
I suggest bread isn't the problem.
Just sub in good wholemeal / wholegrain bread, ideally homemade and eat a bit less of it. Still have a slice with my boiled eggs, not a problem. Stick to Vogel if there's none made and in a hurry.
ryvita is bloody dangerous, I took out a tooth with a seed from one. I'm assuming it wasn't in the best of health to start with ๐
Just sub in good wholemeal / wholegrain bread, ideally homemade and eat a bit less of it.
I find good quality bread fills me up far quicker than mass-produced crap, so eating less of it is never a problem.
ransos - Member
As a nation, we eat less bread than many other countries, yet on average they are slimmer than us.I suggest bread isn't the problem.
Perhaps the crap that is put into the bread in the country is the problem. The bread we have doesn't deserve to be called bread compared to that in Denmark.
There are several good reasons for excluding cereal products (bread, pasta, rice, biscuits etc.) from what you eat. It's awkward to feel satisfied by a meal without these things though. So chickpea flour and quinoa are useful to include in your died. Also a few other legumes.
If you think that's going to be boring, think of what's made with them: falafel, bhajis, pakora, poppadoms.
Perhaps the crap that is put into the bread in the country is the problem. The bread we have doesn't deserve to be called bread compared to that in Denmark.
Well yeah, I was alluding to that. Mass-produced bread is loaded with extra fat and additives, to reduce the fermentation time.
Is this a troll? Except for white rice & pasta I'd struggle to think of any food less nutritionally dense than bread.Any dietician worth there salt (not too much salt though) will tell you that there aren't many foods around with that many nutrients for less than 100 calories
The only point of grains is as a cheap/plentiful food to feed a (too?) large population. As "rich" westerners arguably we don't need them as staple foods although obviously a nice bit of (preferably home-made) bread is a tasty treat!
Certainly if you were looking to lose body fat there is no need to eat grains/bread at all.
wholemeal seeded bread. more nutrition and takes longer to digest= feel full longer= eat less other crap. also doesn't have the same gi spike as white bread.
this thread is making me want another slide of my nice freshly made bread - 50:50 white/wholemeal 1tbsn each of poppy, sesame, pumpkin, sunflower and linseeds. Yum.
Actually this one is more like 55:45 in favour of wholemeal as I slipped.
Google Gary Taubes, also Robert Lustig.
I stopped eating so much bread this year, a necessary thing now am going on two hmm-dread and hmmmty pounds in weight. Except for one day a week when I can have a sarnie.
I replaced it with more of other food, ie a ham sandwich is now 6 rolls of ham with mustard in the middle, rather than two slices of bread around two slices of ham w/mustard in the middle.
Porridge rather than toast for breakfast.
Bacon and eggs rather than bacon and egg butties.
Dont know what the science is for or against but have done it before and I lost weight/felt better.
Slight tangent:
I'm looking for an alternative to wholemeal bread. I've been eating wholemeal pitta for lunch every day for ages now. I like the taste, it's filling and it's convenient for taking around with me wherever I happen to be working. But it makes me bloated and a short while after my tummy seems to be doing somersaults.
What would make a good, healthy alternative for lunch that does the same job.
Mass-produced bread is loaded with extra fat and additives, to reduce the fermentation time.
It's not really that different. Fat's added to lots of traditional breads in similar (around the 1-2% mark) or significantly greater proportions to chorleywood (and the like) processed loaves. It uses a fair bit of yeast - but again, plenty of traditional loaves are heavily yeasted - about double what you'd reckon for a standard home baked white loaf.
Sure there are some emulsifiers in a lot of loaves and then there's typically something like 1% "improvers" of which ascorbic acid's the main other ingredient - again, not uncommon amongst more traditional bakers and the rest is largely enzymes which increase proving speed these days but it's not in quantities that you could reasonably call "loaded".
The main difference with mass produced loaves isn't the ingredients but that they effectively have air whipped into them to avoid having to be left to rise.
As it happens I'd wager there's more fat, salt and sugar in the homemade Vollkornbrot that I just had for lunch than in your average cheap white bread.




