There's no way Starmer would have said that in that way if he didn't have evidence. He lured Johnson into a trap, he just hasn't sprung it yet. Hope he manages to pull it off.
Would have been awesome if Keir has stood back up after the
'He should bring that evidence to the house and substantiate that accusation' remark with.
'Right you are sunshine. Will next Wednesday's PMQ's be soon enough?'
So hoping you're right about the proof being out there.
Yeah BoJo's response "who exactly is supposed to have said those things" seems like he's hanging onto a technicality so I wonder if he said only part of it or someone in the meeting read out the comment that he'd made or he said but pseudo-quoting someone else?
Or he wants to know who he can smear/tarnish first.
The easiest way to make that person be ignored would be to make them seem unreliable and/or get people to make their life hell.
Shit, or just sack them.
Looks like it's curtains for Boris.
Would have been awesome if Keir has stood back up after the
‘He should bring that evidence to the house and substantiate that accusation’ remark with.
‘Right you are sunshine. Will next Wednesday’s PMQ’s be soon enough?’
So hoping you’re right about the proof being out there.
He is possibly waiting until a few days before maybe an election of some sort.
Surely if you have a baby around the place, you don’t go spending £840/roll on wallpaper and £3000 coffee tables, you buy some wipe-clean stuff for when it’s flung it’s poo at you and then vomited over everything…?
And that’s on top of whatever mess young Wilfred makes.
That clip up there of Starmer's questioning is awesome!
Leave the kids out of it.
How ever many there are acknowledged to be. Has this actually been established? Cba googling.
On wallpapergate, given he's already been sacked two or is it three times for lying, he's probably more relaxed than most of us would be just brazeningit out
That clip up there of Starmer’s questioning is awesome!
yeh totally it was Kier at his best, it leaves boris with no where to go. Agree with the comments above it was asked in such a specific way he must know something. Hes got him on record saying its all a lie he never said it, and paid for the refit with his own money. If this turns out to be a lie Boris has gambled big and my lose it all.
I've had this running through my head for too long now not to share...
Looks like it’s curtains for Boris.
👏👏
Looks like it’s curtains for Boris.
He's definitely trying to paper over the cracks...
Looks like it’s curtains for Boris.
Hoist by his own pelmet?
Starmer wants the audio to come out for the Sunday papers?
Can media report on it day off vote, what are the purdah rules?
However would it be legal for cummings to record it?
As much as I'd like to hope Starmer has since zinging evidence waiting in the wings, I suspect he just knows he's got to play the long game, vaccine bounce well keep Johnson safe in locals and for a while more.
Sleaze will pile up slowly, Trump like.
There’s no way Starmer would have said that in that way if he didn’t have evidence.
Tricky, though, because if there is a recording it may well have come from Dominic Cumstains. Now, Dom might well take the view that a few million and a peerage could persuade him to cast doubt on his own evidence and/or version of events.
This is the problem of allowing lying, machiavellian shits too close to power.
Whilst it is satisfying to watch the odious sleazebag squirm a bit, tales of his demise are somewhat exaggerated... as yet.
Here's hoping.
Or maybe he should stay in post until election time. Who or what would replace him?
Who or what would replace him?
Is the reason I can't get too carried away with de feffel potentially getting what he deserves...
Someone has just gone up in my estimation...
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1387778062008397841
I like how Boris "bigs up" the successful lock down.
is that the one that both completely paralysed the entire country AND was ultimately so in-effectual that abuut oh 140,000 people died? That one right??
Top trolling by Sir Keir. That's absolutely world class.
If that Starmer pic is real, that truly is a top effort - though maybe a little premature to be planning the next £30k refurbishment of the flat.
However would it be legal for cummings to record it?
Public interest defence? How ironic....
Though I also have concerns over what may follow Boris into power. Better the devil we know? Or another reluctant but valiant time-waster like Theresa May?
Johnson was at great pains to tell us how much he loved JL today
I guess it's an aspirational thing & Johnson duende want to lose his man of the people touch
Johnson's reaction to the comment about misleading parliament and resignation was visceral. Chapeau!
https://twitter.com/smartestgiant/status/1387334083819282432?s=21
Top trolling - read the product descriptions
I have no doubt that Starmers trolling of Johnson with his hilarious browsing of John Lewis wallpapers today will go down extremely well with most people who already deeply hate Boris Johnson.
However I am less convinced of its effect on the undecided. I suspect that he might have simply cancelled all that he had achieved the day before during PMQ.
Many will simply see it as an infantile prank. Which to be fair, is exactly what it was.
Yesterday Starmer was the serious politician and opposition leader who had the prime minister seriously rattled with direct and extremely serious questioning.
Today he was having a laugh and a joke on exactly the same issue.
Starmer needs to decide whether he wants to be seen by the electorate as a serious politician or as a political comedian. If he chooses comedy I personally think that he will lose to Johnson.
Besides, I don't get the impression that the electorate are crying out for more comedy in British politics.
Which probably explains why Johnson has toned down his act since coming off the back benches.
However I am less convinced of its effect on the undecided. I suspect that he might have simply cancelled all that he had achieved the day before during PMQ.
Many will simply see it as an infantile prank. Which to be fair, is exactly what it was.
Sound analysis, best to be true to your personality, which in Starmer's case is a slightly too earnest lawyer.
However I am less convinced of its effect on the undecided
Not only am I undecided, I have pretty much no interest in politics at all.
So as a sample of one, your guess is wrong - I'm sufficiently annoyed from what I'm hearing and watching to take an interest in what happens next.
This is the first political thread I've ever posted on; I need to take a wash.
Starmer needs to decide whether he wants to be seen by the electorate as a serious politician or as a political comedian. If he chooses comedy I personally think that he will lose to Johnson.
To be honest, it's the first time I've ever really seen him show something of a human side. And having battered Johnson on the floor yesterday it's good to see a sense of humour about it all.
As Mike Galsworthy says, it feels like he's got more coming.
And if you want to see how far political comedy can take you, just look at the current resident of number 10. At least Starmer has some credentials.
^^ I agree with that. I know Starmer is excellent at cross examination (obviously) and it was beautiful to watch Johnson losing his s*** yesterday.
To see Starmer showing a hint of a lighter side was something of a revelation.
Johnson was desperate to claim he didn't hate John Lewis today
I wonder if Starmer is as much trying to get under Johnsons skin
Johnson property lost it at PMQs when starmer (& Blackford) did it yesterday
Johnson is still safe, big majority, vaccine rollout- means he'll be fine on Thursday & beyond
But the sleaze sticks and he's rattled too, a lot of parallels with how Trump eventually fell from grace, that took 4 years too
Johnson is still safe,
My second political post 🙂
Who says he's safe? I'm bloody livid at watching this blatant (apparent) lying and I've never given two shits before about party politics.
And I'll doubly care if it turns out the PM said "let bodies pile high".
Which probably explains why Johnson has toned down his act since coming off the back benches.
Eh? in what way has he toned it down? If anything, he’s dialled it up to eleven
He can’t help himself. It’s his default position. With glib, flippant comments like ‘Operation Last Gasp’ he picked the most inappropriate moment imaginable to play it for laughs, when he’s actually talking about the deaths of tens of thousands of people. It takes insensitivity to a grotesque new level. How many press conferences has he done with that stupid inane grin fixed on his fat, smug face?
Toned it down? He can’t even play it straight in the middle of a global pandemic.
He's a sociopath, pure and simple
He’s a sociopath, pure and simple
That's just Hear'Say.
a lot of parallels with how Trump eventually fell from grace, that took 4 years too
Trump never fell from grace, he just lost the 2020 presidential election.
Almost half of American voters, 47%, voted for Trump in 2020. His total vote actually increased, to the second highest ever in US history. He still has a huge personal hold over the Republican Party. And he stands a half reasonable chance of winning the 2024 US presidential election.
I would much rather a far more definitive end to Johnson's political career.
I wonder if SKS has two bites at this. Preferred option is that Cummings nails him at the hearing - very possible out of spite, with the benefit it embarrasses all those that stood behind him after his Durham trip. And if he doesn't for whatever reason....then produce your evidence. Meanwhile wait while the lies stack up and his ministers contort and embarrass themselves further.
I wonder if Starmer is as much trying to get under Johnsons skin
Johnson property lost it at PMQs when starmer (& Blackford) did it yesterday
I know Starmer is excellent at cross examination (obviously) and it was beautiful to watch Johnson losing his s*** yesterday.
To see Starmer showing a hint of a lighter side was something of a revelation.
Starmer is just poking Johnson a bit between PMQ sessions, riling him up as much as he can without going overboard so that next Wednesday he only has to ask one to-the-point question and he'll explode again. Do this for a few weeks and suddenly the news is full of stories of Boris losing control etc and Starmer will be seen as the calm one. Starmer knows he can't knock Boris down quickly so is using the current furore to land blow after blow after blow, the cumulative effect of those should do enough damage to be much more effective than one well-placed punch that will be quickly forgotten or buried by some other news story.
I have no doubt that Starmers trolling of Johnson with his hilarious browsing of John Lewis wallpapers today will go down extremely well with most people who already deeply hate Boris Johnson.
However I am less convinced of its effect on the undecided. I suspect that he might have simply cancelled all that he had achieved the day before during PMQ.
Many will simply see it as an infantile prank. Which to be fair, is exactly what it was.
If the reaction of my parents is anything to go by (long-time Tory voters, voted for Brexit, Daily Mail readers) Starmer got it bang-on, they both laughed at it and are openly saying Boris is in trouble over all of this. That would have been unheard of least week!
Back from the pub. My Tory voting mate said… “how does he sleep at night?!?” Mercer’s comments about all the lying in office cut through with him. Yes, many people voted for Johnson knowing he has lied to get where he is. That he is unable to tell the truth to even his political allies, or about his money, now he is the PM, is casting a different light. I’m now less sure about the “his voters know he was a liar, so none of this will lose him support” view I’ve had up to now. Some expect him to show more integrity now that he is PM, rather than campaigning and manipulating things to become PM. Election campaigns and holding high office elicit different expectations of probity, for some at least.
Johnson's humour , sorry 'humour' is perceived as a strength when it's actually non existent. It's a more boorish version of Jeremy Clarkson if that's possible, unnecessarily florid and arcane language as a substitute for wit
He says things like 'lets form a square around the Prittster', I've met people who talk like that in my life and you run a mile. can you imagine how annoying it'd be just to be in his company for a minute? He probably used to burn fifty pound notes in front of the homeless for lolz when he was at eton
Starmers stunt today was miles funnier than anything Johnson's ever done. Good quality **** taking
Sky News: Boris Johnson's flat: PM brushes off refurb questions - as poll says Tories' lead increases.
https://news.sky.com/story/nothing-to-see-pm-brushes-off-flat-refurb-questions-as-poll-says-tories-lead-increases-12290082
"Despite a week in which the PM's activities have been closely scrutinised, a YouGov poll on Westminster voting intention carried out on Tuesday and Wednesday - well into the row over who paid for what - put the Conservatives on 44%, unchanged from a week earlier. Labour was down a point on 33%."
I'm not sure results from a polling company set up and owned by budding/current Conservative MPs and published on Sky News can be trusted but the numbers are staggering if they're even 1/2 way correct. Who ARE these 44%?
Hahahahahahahaaaaaa!!😂
Boris Johnson's personal phone number found to be available online
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56937889
Who ARE these 44%?
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/29/boris-johnson-thatcher-unions-bbc-north
The Guardian makes a good stab at explaining it.
