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When can we get rid of this odious turd?
There must be someone somewhere that can do better? No?

Imagine the scene.
When he does eventually slither out of No10 ,we will all look to the horizon, hope in our eyes as we await a saviour, a saviour to rescue us from this shitstorm.
Who will we see?

NOBODY


 
Posted : 17/11/2020 1:44 pm
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Socrates nailed it when he said the electorate need to properly understand and inform themselves for what they are voting for, or step aside. Social media and pithy slogans are not a substitute...


 
Posted : 17/11/2020 1:52 pm
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The Tory party is legendarily ruthless.

Just a little reminder that while anything 'union' wise can be seen as a tory party issue, its the Brexit party that's in charge.


 
Posted : 17/11/2020 2:04 pm
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Robert Jenrick was on Sky News this morning talking about Scotland saying he has no time for separatism or narrow nationalism - how they can say this stuff with a straight face is beyond me.


 
Posted : 17/11/2020 2:12 pm
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Has he tested positive for a second time yet?


 
Posted : 17/11/2020 2:16 pm
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Robert Jenrick was on Sky News this morning talking about Scotland saying he has no time for separatism or narrow nationalism – how they can say this stuff with a straight face is beyond me.

I know. We're being trolled by our own government.


 
Posted : 17/11/2020 2:17 pm
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more adam curtis recommendations but...

century of self is quite old, but its striking the similarities to the 1900's and now.


 
Posted : 17/11/2020 2:20 pm
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, but they must be willfully ignorant and gullible. I find it baffling that some of my relatives, who I would say were otherwise intelligent, still think that Brexit is a good idea and Boris is doing a good job. It ****es me off that as they are retired/nearly retired, they are probably going to be insulated from the worst effects of Brexit, yet their grandchildren will have to pay the price of their ignorance and stupidity.

I was disappointed so many voted based on their own historical bias, rather than what was best going forward for their grandchildren. My dad, at least, seems to have seen the error of his ways.


 
Posted : 17/11/2020 2:23 pm
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I’m not sure I would call them idiots (OK, I probably would), but they must be willfully ignorant and gullible.

No, not idiots, but definitely credulous fools.

I was disappointed so many voted based on their own historical bias,

Quite so.

I would have had a massive falling out with my family if I had continued to discuss it. They were incapable of rational discourse on the topic. It was instead, quite literally like talking to an animated version of the Telegraph with added doses of "those Nazis bombed us you know". Highly depressing.


 
Posted : 17/11/2020 2:39 pm
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Robert Jenrick was on Sky News this morning talking about Scotland saying he has no time for separatism or narrow nationalism – how they can say this stuff with a straight face is beyond me.

Robert 'Honest Bob' Jenrick?

A total crook for whom the lies just fall out of his mouth with no qualms whatsoever.

He has no morals at all - except for those he hypocritically expects others to hold.


 
Posted : 17/11/2020 6:42 pm
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Come on Boris knew exactly what he was doing, it's absolutely in his interests to keep the SNP popular, at a Westminster level they are not important, what's important is to keep Labour out of Scotland.

Plus devolution has not been a success unless you want to see the union break up. It's been devisive and encouraged lots of nasty nationalistic fervour in all parts of the UK and given the Conservatives a stranglehold in government with the collapse of Scottish Labour. Personally I'm not a fan, all the arguments about being together that apply to the EU apply to the Union. Let's sort out the issues not chuck it in a la Brexit.


 
Posted : 17/11/2020 7:33 pm
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given the Conservatives a stranglehold in government

You think that’s the result of devolution? Really?! And you think the issues re being part of the UK/EU are the same? The Scottish government will be excited to hear about their veto powers… you should let them know…


 
Posted : 17/11/2020 7:44 pm
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An over-centralised democratic system which every 4 years hands the health, wealth and happiness of 65m people to one ideologue and half a dozen of their half-wit mates in the pocket of their party funders on the basis of promises of over-simplified solutions to complex problems. What could possibly go wrong?

I do wonder whether devolving power and budgets to regions and communities advised by citizens assemblies might just be, perhaps, almost, a little bit better. There’s a lot of bright, able and energetic people with the right values out there helping improve their communities and all the evidence suggests that diverse involvement makes for more successful and effective large scale change.


 
Posted : 17/11/2020 8:03 pm
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You think that’s the result of devolution?

In part yes, it's given the SNP a good campaigning base and escalated nationalist thinking which has had the unintended consequence of turning Scotland into a single party region which has not affected conservative seats much but significantly reduced Labour's seats.


 
Posted : 17/11/2020 8:35 pm
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Who'd have thought it, that creating a devolved assembly where politicians focused on local issues would have been popular with voters? This is just another dead cat being chucked on the table by Boris to detract from the bit of a mess that is Brexit and Covid. Instead of hiding in a fridge, we have a politician prepared to stand up daily and talk through the difficult decisions, popular or not.


 
Posted : 17/11/2020 9:04 pm
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The trend among political journalists to use the word 'sober' when they could use 'serious' or 'determined' or 'focussed' is really gathering pace. I heard it again this morning to describe how Blohard ought to try to play PMQs today.

It's almost as if they are playing a game amongst themselves to see who dares to use it. Nudge-nudge, wink-wink etc.


 
Posted : 18/11/2020 10:08 am
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all the arguments about being together that apply to the EU apply to the Union. Let’s sort out the issues not chuck it in a la Brexit.

Arguably off topic but that's my view as well. A lot of issues to try and sort though.

Boris' drinking is now a pretty open secret, HIGNFY went for it a couple of weeks ago.


 
Posted : 18/11/2020 10:23 am
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I can drink an awful lot at lunchtime

Not exactly secret in any way shape or form.


 
Posted : 18/11/2020 10:35 am
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MCTD I noticed an MP saying 'we've had enough of the 'tired and depressed' Boris', not a million miles from PE's 'tired and emotional'. It amuses me how journalists let out little peeps of info, with L Fox it was his 'firm friend', 'best man', 'deep-throated friendship'. With Boris it'll be around the drink, slipping into something cool, Carrie being on the books and as he gets closer to taking it on the chin and being moved on all these references will become bolder. He's not a very slick act.


 
Posted : 18/11/2020 11:00 am
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Come on Boris knew exactly what he was doing

Said no one, ever.

His Scottish comments are a spectacular own-goal, even by his usual standards of half-arsed buffoonery.

Cheered me right up, it did.


 
Posted : 18/11/2020 11:07 am
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A bit psychologistic and a bizarre source but worth a squiz nevertheless:

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/wholl-grab-the-steering-wheel-from-out-of-control-johnson/


 
Posted : 18/11/2020 11:41 am
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Wow that conservativeswoman article veers everywhere and isn’t even internally consistent. I was waiting for the paragraph that started ‘And another thing!!!

But it’s telling that it seems to spit it’s greatest venom at the start where it seems his greatest crime is that before the last election he might have secretly been a little. Bit. Poor. [the horror]


 
Posted : 18/11/2020 11:47 am
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and is written by a man


 
Posted : 18/11/2020 11:58 am
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From the first paragraph of that article:

How did the political culture of a great nation degrade to the extent that it promoted such a man to a leader?

Because the Conservative party were desperate for someone to get them out of the corner they had painted themselves into through a combination of stupidity and bigotry.

I haven't read the rest of the article, seems not worth it.


 
Posted : 18/11/2020 12:06 pm
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that the virus has an average age of mortality of 82, higher than the UK life expectancy,

So being dead already is the best defence against dying from Covid.


 
Posted : 18/11/2020 12:19 pm
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Because the Conservative party were desperate for someone to get them out of the corner they had painted themselves into through a combination of stupidity and bigotry.

Couldn't have put it any better myself.

So being dead already is the best defence against dying from Covid.

It's 100% effective, in fact. But now you've let the cat out of the bag you won't be able to present it as a 'finding' in your capacity as a government 'consultant' and trouser £100k for the privilege. Schoolboy error.


 
Posted : 18/11/2020 12:52 pm
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The whole Conservative Woman thing seems to be written by men to tell their women how they should be.


 
Posted : 18/11/2020 1:13 pm
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The whole Conservative Woman thing seems to be written by men to tell their women how they should be.

That article seems to be written by a man who found out Boris had shagged his wife.


 
Posted : 18/11/2020 2:56 pm
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That article seems to be written by a man who found out Boris had shagged his wife.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz8RjPAD2Jk


 
Posted : 18/11/2020 5:41 pm
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So, this ton of money on defence..... Why?

I assume it’s bait to his flag shagging base rather than anything useful?


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 12:38 am
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We're going to have our own Space Force!


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 12:49 am
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WTAF? Waking up to the defence spend announcement.

OK, it "may" create some British jobs, we "may" need to look at our Forces and satellite security etc if we are about to walk away from wider cooperation, but throwing money at the department that has the reputation for being least cost efficient on spending? Now, of all times!

Unless the flag waving loon really is going to try and recreate the glory days of empire by invading the rest of the world?

Oh, hang on. Previous European governments elected with big majorities via populist lies to recreate a glorious past, boosting military spending to get out of an economic disaster? WhereTF is this headed?


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 8:05 am
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Space Force

Cyber Team

Green vehicles

Green infrastructure

More vaccines than anyone else

Oh look a squirrel...


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 8:24 am
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Just heard we’re ‘going to launch the UK’s first rocket by 2022’, so the budget must be for the time machine to stop them from launching the first British satellite using the first British launcher back in 1971, after which the Conservatives cancelled the programme.


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 8:34 am
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Didn’t it cost us a couple of billion and 15yrs just to get a radio system working that was based on an existing system?


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 9:20 am
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Arms cannot be used for consumption nor production they are therefore 'waste' production. Arms production has a high labour capital ratio and a skilled labour force so not an obvious choice for job creation and is likely to have a high import content. Arms expenditure tends to be deflationary in that it can offset the increasing centralisation of capital so it can stabilise the boom/slump cycles but we need reflation. The New Deal involved investment in infrastructure that benefited the economy, an additional £18bn on arms quite frankly is f madness. Historically the arms industry has been found to be generous in its interactions with decision makers and their agents. The hang em and flog em Tories may well be cheered by this but any sentient creature will be angered and bemused. 8000 containers full of overpriced and possibly unusable ppe and now this. It ain't getting any better.


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 9:30 am
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Is he buying a fleet of gunboats to conduct future diplomacy?

Isn't today the day the Brexit talks collapse?


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 9:32 am
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Well at least he's proved Theresa May wrong about the magic money tree.


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 9:35 am
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Yeah but.. a space force!!!

Can we have an Arnold Rimmer style salute?


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 9:37 am
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They’ll be more money announced over the next few years for “arms” (note that most of this particular announcement isn’t for the armed forces) just to stand still. Brexit means we either spend more on security, or accept weakened security… (or, as I think most likely, both).


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 9:37 am
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Presumably the opposition will argue that arms trades should be left to neo-liberal market forces and that taxpayers' money should be spent on affordable housing, hospitals, schools, public transport, wage rises for the many not the few. Maybe not. Just heard a Tory saying this will create 10,000 jobs per year and using the conflict in Armenia as a rationale. Absolute bare-faced lies, and people go along with it.


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 9:58 am
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using the conflict in Armenia as a rationale

Ah, an updated, post-truth, version of the Cold War 'Domino Theory' where superpowers ended up propping up (notionally) loyal but corrupt regimes because if one 'domino' fell, the rest would follow?

Different slant, but similar conclusion.


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 10:07 am
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It's nice that the Tories are going to spend money on ways of killing people. It's a change from their usual policy of killing people through not spending money.


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 10:07 am
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Would any of his mates happen to profit substantially by new contracts awarded in this area?


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 10:10 am
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Is he buying a fleet of gunboats to conduct future diplomacy?

He's buying more water cannon to quell the upcoming Brexit food riots.

As with the previous 3 he bought when he was Mayor of London, they'll be unusable, cost a fortune in trying to bring up to standard and then languish in a a warehouse for years before being sold for scrap.


 
Posted : 19/11/2020 10:13 am
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