Forum menu
Boris Johnson!
 

Boris Johnson!

Posts: 34498
Full Member
 

Johnsons mask u-turn is going to infuriate his backbenchers

Another poll out today with a labour lead

And crucially half of electorate say he should quit!
And this is b4 today's news

https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1464685458101714948?t=7pQSPuuLts2LZBrHbJFlMw&s=19

All chipping away at his standing in the party


 
Posted : 27/11/2021 10:37 pm
Posts: 12653
Free Member
 

That would be good news if it were like the Labour party where they would just leave him there to lose the election but as we know that won't happen with the tory party and they will replace him before risking that.


 
Posted : 28/11/2021 8:05 am
 grum
Posts: 4531
Free Member
 

Staggering that only 13% of Tory voters think Johnson should go.


 
Posted : 28/11/2021 8:27 am
Posts: 6891
Full Member
 

Staggering that only 13% of Tory voters think Johnson should go

Not really, how many people not happy with Daddy Pig will actually admit to being Tory voters. Those that do are still in the same state of denial as Trump supporters.


 
Posted : 28/11/2021 10:08 am
Posts: 44744
Full Member
 

The level of delusion amongst tory ( all parties?) voters is off the scale

A wee debate yesterday on the scottish tories page where they were trying to deny pro independence parties have a majority - just flat out ignoring the greens!  Very funny.  Nothing would persuade them even showing the data that their stance was just factually incorrect

Same with Johnson - his core vote are so invested in him that they are blind to what he does wrong - and the slanted sources of info means that they do not really see the incompetence


 
Posted : 28/11/2021 10:16 am
Posts: 12653
Free Member
 

and why care about the incompetence if it is not directly affecting you and you are better off under any type of tory party.


 
Posted : 28/11/2021 10:31 am
Posts: 31037
Full Member
 

Impartiality means not criticising government policy… no, not China…

https://twitter.com/thealiceroberts/status/1464885984613515267?s=21

invitations should not be issued to those who have “spoken against key government policy”


 
Posted : 28/11/2021 10:36 am
Posts: 648
Full Member
 

Kelvin. Oh well there goes my invite🥺. It really does look like the Henry VIII playbook, which doesn't bode well for wife No2
Can't wait for the wording of the 'Oath of Loyalty', as drafted by The Daily Mail


 
Posted : 28/11/2021 2:54 pm
 tomd
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

He's on wife #3. 7 confirmed children.


 
Posted : 28/11/2021 7:06 pm
Posts: 34498
Full Member
 

Tbf I don't think he's had any of his wives decapitated


 
Posted : 28/11/2021 7:16 pm
Posts: 5787
Full Member
 

The mask wearing announcement was typical BJ thou,didn’t actually say much about wearing a mask and that had to be teased out of him by the journos and Javid was going to announce what they had decided.

Not what you’d call clear messaging.


 
Posted : 29/11/2021 9:48 am
Posts: 28593
Free Member
 

Unwillingness to be associated with anything he perceives as vaguely unpopular is the sign of a true leader. He could have used his national platform to urge the public to accept and follow the new policy, but no, instead we got some shambling sulk whose body language screamed that he didn't agree with it and it was all Saj and Whitty's fault.

A colossal failure as a human, who has risen because he has a veneer of classical education and bonhomie disguising an utterly corrupt and self-interested void within.


 
Posted : 29/11/2021 10:01 am
Posts: 57321
Full Member
 

Not what you’d call clear messaging

He’s consistent then?


 
Posted : 29/11/2021 10:52 am
 grum
Posts: 4531
Free Member
 

invitations should not be issued to those who have “spoken against key government policy”

This is the same government that's apparently championing freedom of speech in universities. You know, as along as it's the kind of speech that Toby Young likes.


 
Posted : 29/11/2021 12:04 pm
Posts: 44744
Full Member
 

invitations should not be issued to those who have “spoken against key government policy”

and I got a right kicking for saying the tories were veering towards fascism!  Gerrymandering the vote, blocking all criticisms, Appointing cronies to head all quangos, control of the media,  creating "the enemy within"  racist policies, anti immigrant rhetoric etc etc


 
Posted : 29/11/2021 12:11 pm
Posts: 34498
Full Member
 

I still don't think Tories will lose Bexley or Shropshire byelections, but they'll be getting twitchy in No10

https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1465016780783562754?t=OClsj6YJB1E6YC0vONHBVg&s=19


 
Posted : 29/11/2021 1:01 pm
Posts: 34498
Full Member
Posts: 15555
Full Member
 

Truss is literally on maneuvers

I feel safer already ROFL!!!!

Liz in a tank


 
Posted : 30/11/2021 5:18 pm
Posts: 7969
Free Member
 

Apparently it's because she's getting Brexit done while bojo flaps about listening to "scientists" who want to kill Christmas.


 
Posted : 30/11/2021 7:00 pm
Posts: 16496
Full Member
 

Interesting to see the fall of Priti from grace in that graph.

Turns outs out "solving immigration issues" is actually a little harder than it sounds. Even after saying it would be so easy before you got the job. Another Brexiteer that never realised a border has two sides.

Go figure?


 
Posted : 30/11/2021 7:06 pm
Posts: 16496
Full Member
 

She'd be proud of some of the residents of Hastings though, attempting to block an RNLI shout.

It's not all bad though, in other news there are some non arsehats in Hastings too.👍

https://www.hastingsobserver.co.uk/news/people/hastings-rnli-lifeboat-crew-blocked-from-going-out-to-sea-by-people-angry-at-them-rescuing-refugees-3475179


 
Posted : 30/11/2021 7:21 pm
Posts: 1083
Full Member
 

and look like Margaret Thatcher as much as possible

Thatcher looked like she knew what she was doing, so good luck with that.


 
Posted : 30/11/2021 10:32 pm
Posts: 3553
Free Member
 

The thing about that Thatcher in a tank image is that you'll never look at it and think 'Jesus ****ing christ what an absolute ****ing moron'


 
Posted : 30/11/2021 10:38 pm
Posts: 33112
Full Member
 

She’d be proud of some of the residents of Hastings though, attempting to block an RNLI shout.

Wonder where my brother in law was that day?


 
Posted : 30/11/2021 10:39 pm
Posts: 34498
Full Member
 

Turns outs out “solving immigration issues” is actually a little harder than it sounds. Even after saying it would be so easy before you got the job. Another Brexiteer that never realised a border has two sides

The irony is that the 'migration crisis' is something that didn't really exist just something the likes of Farage & Tories have gleefully whipped up & weaponised in the culture war & Patels reactions to it have turned it into an actual crisis


 
Posted : 30/11/2021 10:55 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

This is the same government that’s apparently championing freedom of speech in universities.

They're trying to slowly strangle HE. The view of this brand of 'Tory' is that the country needs less graduates and more insecurely employed worker drones. The only people who need to be university educated are their kids and their mates' kids. Britannia Unchained indeed.


 
Posted : 30/11/2021 10:57 pm
Posts: 16496
Full Member
 

@kimbers

Absolutely, wouldn't it be wonderful if it ended her political career, though I don't think that will happen for a second.


 
Posted : 30/11/2021 11:09 pm
Posts: 20630
Full Member
 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/30/for-boris-everything-will-always-turn-out-for-the-best-until-it-doesnt

John Crace and Marina Hyde both on good form at the moment although to be honest the Government do make it very easy for satirical writers anyway...

It's a good job that when Boris said Covid would be beaten and gone by Easter he didn't actually specify which year that would be!


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 8:39 am
Posts: 34498
Full Member
 

would be very surprised if its this close (shoropshire)!

https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1465809974853054471

unoffical pact between LD & Labour allegedly


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 12:39 pm
Posts: 15692
Free Member
 

Boris Johnson’s interventionist approach to industry defies UK election vow

https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/ftlogo-v1%3Abrand-ft-logo-square-coloured?source=update-logos&width=180&height=180&format=png

When Boris Johnson ran against Jeremy Corbyn to become UK prime minister in the 2019 election he would often criticise the ageing left-winger for his nationalisation plans.

“What we won’t be doing is some crackpot scheme that would involve many, many tens of billions of taxpayers’ money nationalising a British business,” Johnson said at the time.

Yet, under Johnson, the British government has taken an interventionist approach to struggling industries on multiple occasions.

"Ironically, Johnson has carried out more nationalisations than any Labour prime minister since Harold Wilson,” said John McDonnell, shadow chancellor under Corbyn.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 1:26 pm
Posts: 8469
Full Member
 

Hastings is my neck of the woods, and a real split town. Its very arty and liberal, but also a big Brexity fringe.

One of its issues is a lack of industry - it has the largest proportion of workers employed by Public sector of all UK boroughs, so you can see how Austerity would hit hard down here.

Oh, and until she moved into my village this year, Lizz Truss was my mums MP in Norfolk - fair to say she isn't a fan!!!


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 1:36 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

I see in PMQ today our Sub-Prime has refused to deny there were partys in no10 last Christmas while the rest of the country were under lockdown.

Rember to follow the rules and save the nhs, unless your one of “us” obviously…

#stayelite

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/dec/01/boris-johnson-accused-of-flouting-covid-rules-with-no-10-parties-last-christmas?fbclid=IwAR2c_kUoRsk-2Jj9gXnMddnI--U-l94pGG9GPEVs7e_rzB7TMSxbT5boXIE


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 3:06 pm
Posts: 125
Free Member
 

Not sure I liked this exchange.

Andrew Rosindell (Con) says the government cannot deal with illegal migrants while still constrained by the Human Rights Act and the European convention on human rights.

Johnson says the government is reviewing the human rights system. He says Labour should back the nationality and borders bill.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 3:18 pm
Posts: 34498
Full Member
 

Interesting to see which papers run with Johnson Xmas party wheeze tomorrow for Bexley byelection

Surpressing tory turnout could see a likely reduced majority and more bad news for bozo

https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1465807096411217923?t=glrRVesPV8hEhPUE8J7Tgg&s=19


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 8:07 pm
Posts: 44744
Full Member
 

Johnson says the government is reviewing the human rights system. He says Labour should back the nationality and borders bill.

NO political commentators ever point out the elephant in the room with this that the european convention on human rights is enshrined in both Holyrood and the welsh paliament - and Westminster has no power to alter that short of suspending both parliaments.  so whatever clever wheeze they come up with on this will be completely unworkable as the ECHR will still always apply in its entirety in Scotland and Wales

Its really amusing to me as any company working in all parts of the UK will still have to comply.  UK wide legislation will still have to comply, any Uk citizen residing in Scotland or wales will still be protected under it

they are setting themsleves up for a huge fail if they try to do this


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 8:20 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

This government think Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are the equivalent to an English county each. And not a big county.


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 10:06 pm
Posts: 44744
Full Member
 

As do the political commentators and the rest of the westminster political parties.

I just do not get why no one has pinned them on this


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 10:27 pm
Posts: 11402
Free Member
 


 
Posted : 01/12/2021 11:40 pm
Posts: 57321
Full Member
 

It’s worth watching the interview by Peston with Matt Hancock. A man so utterly lacking in self-awareness it defies belief.

A total car crash. Torn a new one by Jess Phillips

If he’s going to give the same answers to the public inquiry then I’m sure Boris will be relishing that

https://twitter.com/itvpeston/status/1466186167611760644?s=21

This was followed by Theresa Coffey, another intellectual colossus

We truly are ruled by utter morons


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 1:54 am
Posts: 16496
Full Member
 

It actually unusual for a career politician to look so uncomfortable even under pressure.

I suspect it's because he knows it's indefensible and to even attempt it just makes him look like more of a tosser.

The stench of corruption in this government is going to linger for a long time. I expect more tremendous will come out in time for the next election.


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 2:00 am
Posts: 57321
Full Member
 

And Macron acutely describes Johnson as ‘a clown’

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1466204111351816197?s=21


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 2:08 am
Posts: 16496
Full Member
 

^^ And a knucklehead.lol

The US, have also said they won't be removing Trump's steel and aluminium tariffs from us over concerns we are going to screw up the NI protocol.

The tariffs on EU steel/ aluminium have been removed.

So basically we have yet another gun aimed at our head if we trigger article 16.

What is Frosty/ Boris to do?


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 2:16 am
Posts: 34498
Full Member
 

Hancock really is the lowest

https://twitter.com/itvpeston/status/1466186167611760644?t=rVHPKncH4QkfwInqqBXcpQ&s=19

Not the performance the Tories would've wanted on the eve of a byelection?


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 10:01 am
Posts: 34981
Full Member
 

Not the performance the Tories would’ve wanted on the eve of a byelection?

I'm not sure it will make that much difference TBH.


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 10:13 am
Posts: 34498
Full Member
 

I agree, reduced majority at best in Bexley, it just speaks to poor planing /leadership in the Tory PR machine


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 10:20 am
Posts: 57321
Full Member
 

What’s truly incredible is that that display was obviously little Matty’s idea of redemption and what he sees as the resurrection of his career.

I mean, how detached from reality can one person get?

I’m sure that in Tory Central they were just saying “please stop talking”

Can’t wait to see him getting a grilling when the public inquiry starts. I’m sure there are going to many many twitchy bums regarding that upcoming performance


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 10:43 am
Posts: 7971
Full Member
 

Not the performance the Tories would’ve wanted on the eve of a byelection?

Who else could they get to go on and make fools of themselves though?
The honest ones really wouldnt want to go out and defend this behaviour so you end up with just those who think its fine.


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 10:46 am
Posts: 57321
Full Member
 

Meanwhile; Liz does her best cosplay ‘look at me, I’m just like Maggie, honest!’ thing in preparation for her leadership bid

Dear god! Spare us this! Apparently its to ‘send a message’ to Putin. It’s just embarrassing


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 10:58 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

What is Frosty/ Boris to do?

Be all shouty in public, bang the drum, wave the flag then quietly accept a compromise that still damages the UK, but not quite as much as a total rift whilst sounding off about 'devious foreigners punishing the UK for Brexit'.

It's worked like a charm every time so far, why would they do any different now?


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 11:00 am
Posts: 11402
Free Member
 

The Express are backing Sunak, they ran with "Rishi I'm a low tax Tory" front page 2 days ago.


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 11:04 am
Posts: 57321
Full Member
 

Whoever it is, it looks like the knives are most definitely out for Boris. No doubt he’ll be despatched with the customary ruthlessness when the time is right

I’m sure they’re just waiting for him to be forced into ‘cancelling Christmas’ and other inevitable stuff that will have the Desmond Swaynes foaming at the mouth,
before moving against him some time in the new year


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 11:41 am
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Re the Jess Phillips interview above.

I have an acquaintance that works for Arco in a reasonably senior sales role. He unequivocally told me that Arco (as an established provider of PPE) called the 'number' for the government, but found themselves being messed about and ultimately frozen out of discussions. He also told me that (I don't know how they found out) a mysterious new supplier that no one at Arco had ever heard of was in pole position to get the contract for that PPE and that they had insisted on exclusivity as a prerequisite.

Now I understand that normal procurement rules probably had to be suspended in the rush, but that kind of rigging and influence smacks of corruption, plain and simple. My acquaintance hinted that the mysterious new startup with the plum contract was someone with connections to ministers.

They weren’t even jumping in on a free for all - they were actively trying to rig the market to compete against pukka suppliers of PPE.

It stinks to high heaven, but the voters the New Tories appeal to won't care.


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 1:48 pm
Posts: 9121
Full Member
 

Private Eye has an article about this in the "Profits of Doom" article I am reading at the moment.


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 1:51 pm
Posts: 66098
Full Member
 

I've said this before, but the thing about the PPE scandal isn't even the money. I mean, the money's a massive deal and should be enough to bring down governments. But even that is pretty trivial because while they were stealing money from everyone in the country they were also failing to provide PPE to people who needed it.

I wonder what the total death toll is. From the opportunity costs of not having that money to spend on services etc, and from the direct effect of people in frontline roles not having the PPE they needed.


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 4:16 pm
Posts: 57321
Full Member
 

Absolutely. And from the reaction of Matt Hancock on Peston last night - and I’d say his attitude is no different to the rest of them - he genuinely couldn’t give a flying ****!

When that point was put to him, he may as well have shrugged and said ‘meh’.

The collective mindset of this lot is sociopathic, bordering on psychopathic.


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 4:29 pm
Posts: 34981
Full Member
 

There was an interview of a woman in the Old Bexley & Sidcup by-election who yesterday said that despite knowing that Johnson is a clown she's still going to vote Tory because "Better the devil you know"

I somehow doubt that even given the contract rigging that clearly Matt and his mate from the pub very obviously did to hide from scrutiny, folks just really don't care enough about it to change their vote


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 4:41 pm
Posts: 5054
Free Member
 

It stinks to high heaven, but the voters the New Tories appeal to won’t care.

That's because they'd act the same way if they were in a position of power/influence.


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 5:57 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

That’s because they’d act the same way if they were in a position of power/influence.

So much this.

"Cash in hand here, cut corners there, bish bash bosh, look at all that dosh."


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 6:26 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 

Apparently its to ‘send a message’ to Putin.

It does. It says "we so want to be like you, but we're even shit at trying to imitate a tinpot dictator".

He will barely bother to laugh, he's won. He won on June 23rd 2016.


 
Posted : 02/12/2021 9:50 pm
Posts: 34498
Full Member
Posts: 268
Full Member
 

Why was the Chancellor visiting Catterick in the first place? No issue with it, just wondering.


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 4:25 pm
Posts: 57321
Full Member
 

Because leadership rival Liz had her photo taken in a tank.

So he needs to show he’s all rufty tufty too and that he’ll buy lots of the shooty, bangy things with Union jacks on them, that Tory voters all love


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 4:31 pm
Posts: 4593
Free Member
 

I think Liz Truss would make a good primary school teacher. She looks quite nice. I'd be happy for her to show my kids how to make circles and squares out of playdoh


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 4:31 pm
Posts: 4593
Free Member
 

WAIT A MINUTE, SHE'S THE FOREIGN SECRETARY!!!

SHITTING HELL!!!!


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 4:32 pm
Posts: 15692
Free Member
 

Why was the Chancellor visiting Catterick in the first place? No issue with it, just wondering.

Because he is a local MP who has a long association with the Gurkhas at Catterick which predate him becoming Chancellor.

As a Hindu Sunka has worshipped at the Gurkha temple there :

https://www.gurkhabde.com/mp-of-richmond-york-visited-the-gurkha-temple-at-infantry-training-center-catterick/


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 4:46 pm
Posts: 7969
Free Member
 

Upvote for Doris5000


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 5:14 pm
Posts: 31037
Full Member
 

Just wait 'till Truss is Prime Minister. That'll be even more of a "is the universe just shitting with us now" moment.


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 5:24 pm
Posts: 28593
Free Member
 

Look, I had a conversation with my missus in about 2015 about the possible cosmic joke of having Trump and Boris running things at the same time. If we get a Truss/Trump combo in 2024, that has to be definitive proof of a higher being with a creative sense of humour.


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 5:30 pm
Posts: 66098
Full Member
 

intheborders
Free Member

That’s because they’d act the same way if they were in a position of power/influence.

Yeah, thing is, I'm not sure how I'd act if I was in a position of power- I like to think I'm a pretty moral, fairminded person but then I've never been in a position to steal billions of pounds with no consequences and give it to my mates.

This is just one of the reasons I'm definitely not a good choice for bloody Prime Minister. I don't want someone who's probably just like me, I want someone that's better than me, same as when I get a decorator in, I want them to be better at painting than I am. It just seems like the only bloody thing that makes any sense.


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 5:42 pm
Posts: 34498
Full Member
 

I assumed Sunak just wanted a photo op with the shortest regiment possible


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 6:04 pm
Posts: 0
Free Member
 


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 6:08 pm
Posts: 15692
Free Member
 

I assumed Sunak just wanted a photo op with the shortest regiment possible

Why, is Sunak known to have issues about his height? He seems reasonably tall to me for someone with South Asian heritage.


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 6:18 pm
Posts: 57321
Full Member
 

Are we taking bets on tomorrow’s photo op being Boris in a fighter jet then? Priti Patel with a rocket launcher? The Saj in a helicopter gunship?


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 6:31 pm
Posts: 6794
Full Member
 

I'm no fan of Sunak and detest the tories but have to back Ernie up with this one, Catterick is in his constituency so it's no great surprise that he rocks up there for passing our parades etc.


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 6:38 pm
Posts: 15692
Free Member
 

Are we taking bets on tomorrow’s photo op being Boris in a fighter jet then? Priti Patel with a rocket launcher? The Saj in a helicopter gunship?

Yeah Tory voters love all that, although Sunak got a head start a few years ago.


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 6:39 pm
Posts: 34498
Full Member
 

Why, is Sunak known to have issues about his height? He seems reasonably tall to me for someone with South Asian heritage.

Didn't he hire a photographer to make him look taller?


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 6:39 pm
Posts: 15692
Free Member
 

Didn’t he hire a photographer to make him look taller?

I don't know. I can't say I have ever heard any talk about his height.

Edit : Your photo does indeed emphasis how short South Asian people can be when compared to white British, so perhaps he is self-conscious about his height as you suggest.


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 6:42 pm
Posts: 7971
Full Member
 

Are we taking bets on tomorrow’s photo op being Boris in a fighter jet then?

Cant see fatboy fitting into a fighter cockpit


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 6:49 pm
Posts: 15692
Free Member
 

No I can't either but more importantly I can't see a leadership challenge at the present time, especially after a rather satisfactory result in the by-election yesterday and the latest two opinion polls giving the Tories a lead.

So I suspect that posing on military hardware will have to be deferred to another day.


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 6:55 pm
Posts: 16496
Full Member
 

Are we taking bets on tomorrow’s photo op being Boris in a fighter jet then? Priti Patel with a rocket launcher? The Saj in a helicopter gunship?

Are we totally sure Boris wasn't trying out an F35 recently for a photo op?

He has history with fly by wire systems after all.


 
Posted : 03/12/2021 7:07 pm
Page 73 / 222